Which is better: Love or Goodness?

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Can you do goodness without love?

Can you love without goodness?

Do you do good when you love?

Do you love when you do good?

Which is better? Which is above the other? Why?
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Can you do goodness without love?

Can you love without goodness?

Do you do good when you love?

Do you love when you do good?

Which is better? Which is above the other? Why?
wtf is 'goodness'?
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Can you do goodness without love?

Can you love without goodness?

Do you do good when you love?

Do you love when you do good?

Which is better? Which is above the other? Why?
:confused: i aint got a clue.Loving someone is good but still im undecided
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Can you do goodness without love?

Yes, see below.

Can you love without goodness?

Yes, see below.

Do you do good when you love?

Not if you love Hitler for example.

Do you love when you do good?

Not necessarily. I threw a quarter at a tramp yesterday. I don't love him though.

Which is better? Which is above the other? Why?
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as some other members i didn't know what goodness was
anyway i looked it up: 1. used to express surprise 2. the quality of beeing good 3. the part of sth that has a useful effect on sb/sth, especially on sb's health

in this case option 2 fits the most
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Still no response for the definition of "goodness"
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both would be good
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If "goodness" is the quality of being "good", what's good?
don't know i just looked it up. if you look at good there ar two columns explaining the word it can means so much. anyway can't goodness be a quality that people can be and good be like good things or something. but then again why do you say things like "be good", i don't know was jsut trying to make sense to the thread question.
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wtf is 'goodness'?
Oops sorry. here you go...

  • www.webster.com

    Main Entry: good·ness
    Pronunciation: 'gud-n&s
    Function: noun
    1 : the quality or state of being good

    Main Entry: good
    Pronunciation: 'gud
    Function: adjective
    Inflected Form(s): bet·ter /'be-t&r/; best /'best/
    Etymology: Middle English, from Old English gOd; akin to Old High German guot good, Sanskrit gadhya what one clings to

    1

    a (1) : of a favorable character or tendency
    b (1) : SUITABLE, FIT
    c (1) : AGREEABLE, PLEASANT
    e (1) : WELL-FOUNDED, COGENT <good reasons>
    f (1) : ADEQUATE, SATISFACTORY <good care>

    2

    a (1) : VIRTUOUS, RIGHT, COMMENDABLE <a good person> <good conduct> (2) : KIND, BENEVOLENT <good intentions> b : UPPER-CLASS <a good family> c : COMPETENT, SKILLFUL <a good doctor> d (1) : LOYAL <a good party man> <a good Catholic> (2) : CLOSE <a good friend> e : free from infirmity or sorrow <I feel good>
    - good·ish /'gu-dish/ adjective
    - as good as : in effect : VIRTUALLY <as good as dead>
    - as good as gold 1 : of the highest worth or reliability <his promise is as good as gold> 2 : well-behaved <the child was as good as gold>
    - good and /"gud-&n/ : VERY, ENTIRELY <was good and mad>



    Main Entry: love Pronunciation: 'l&v
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Middle English, from Old English lufu; akin to Old High German luba love, Old English lEof dear, Latin lubEre, libEre to please
    1 a (1) : strong affection for another arising out of kinship or personal ties <maternal love for a child> (2) : attraction based on sexual desire : affection and tenderness felt by lovers (3) : affection based on admiration, benevolence, or common interests <love for his old schoolmates> b : an assurance of love <give her my love>
    2 : warm attachment, enthusiasm, or devotion <love of the sea>
    3 a : the object of attachment, devotion, or admiration <baseball was his first love> b (1) : a beloved person : DARLING -- often used as a term of endearment (2) British -- used as an informal term of address
    4 a : unselfish loyal and benevolent concern for the good of another: as (1) : the fatherly concern of God for humankind (2) : brotherly concern for others b : a person's adoration of God
    5 : a god or personification of love
    6 : an amorous episode : LOVE AFFAIR
    7 : the sexual embrace : COPULATION
    8 : a score of zero (as in tennis)
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I would say there are two types of "good"

1) Moral "good" - morality is the sign-language of the emotions - if you dont like something, if you feel that it's bad, you say "that's bad". Some project their feelings into objectivity, claiming that morality - their morality - is eternal, external, and objective. Hog-wash, of course, for morality, like all concepts, exists only in the mind and as language.

2) Utility "good" - "take that medicine - it's good for you"

In both cases what is "good" is entirely relative.
good point
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I would say there are two types of "good"
Lets take "Moral Good". Which is above the other...

* Doing good to another person

or

* Loving another person
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Would you rather have another person love you or do good to you?
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Can you do goodness without love?

Yes, if you want to make a show of how 'good' you are.

Can you love without goodness?

Given that Hitler had a girlfriend......!!!!=) Without some small element of good, I think it would be VERY hard....

Do you do good when you love?

Not necessarily, but it helps.

Do you love when you do good?

Not necessarily, see answer to q 1 above.

Which is better? Which is above the other? Why?
Love would be better as it should motivate to good actions. Good can be done for show - to draw attention to oneself or get publicity. Love, if it is genuine, will lead to a whole host of genuine, good actions and do on.

HTH!
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I just want to vote for, "that's a stupid question".
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I just want to vote for, "that's a stupid question".
yeh - same. Love is an emotion, goodness is a quality. You can't really compare things if they aren't of the same type.. :-s
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Goodness is what you get in wholemeal bread. If I found some of the bakers "love" in my bread I would be less than pleased.

More seriously, stupid question imo ;p
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