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Edinburgh or King's College for Classics?

I have two offers, from Edinburgh and King's College, to study Classics. I have no idea which to choose. Everyone who I have spoken to so far as strongly encouraged me to go to one or the other, but I swear it is half and half. The same with my thoughts:

London: I really want to go there. I have always wanted to live there at university age. I live in Scotland, and I want to leave. I can always come back, but right now I'm tired of it's backwardness and cold weather, plus Edinburgh is like a ghost town compared to London, I went to it last week and I literally walked for 3 streets without seeing anybody else. It's a relatively nice looking city, but King's is probably the best place in the world to study classics bar Oxbridge or UCL, what with its connections to museums, its library, and its amazing course and teaching, and besides I prefer big cities, Edinburgh is even smaller than where I live right now.

Edinburgh: Quite simple: since I live in Scotland I don't have to pay tuition fees. That's nearly £30,000 of debt. It's a great university, amazing career prospects, facilities second to none. It seems to be full of private school people from what I hear, but it can't be that bad, and I hear the department is pretty much the best in the university, with an amazingly friendly atmosphere. I'd be able to go home a lot too.

Reply 1

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by Copperknickers
I have two offers, from Edinburgh and King's College, to study Classics. I have no idea which to choose. Everyone who I have spoken to so far as strongly encouraged me to go to one or the other, but I swear it is half and half. The same with my thoughts:

London: I really want to go there. I have always wanted to live there at university age. I live in Scotland, and I want to leave. I can always come back, but right now I'm tired of it's backwardness and cold weather, plus Edinburgh is like a ghost town compared to London, I went to it last week and I literally walked for 3 streets without seeing anybody else. It's a relatively nice looking city, but King's is probably the best place in the world to study classics bar Oxbridge or UCL, what with its connections to museums, its library, and its amazing course and teaching, and besides I prefer big cities, Edinburgh is even smaller than where I live right now.

Edinburgh: Quite simple: since I live in Scotland I don't have to pay tuition fees. That's nearly £30,000 of debt. It's a great university, amazing career prospects, facilities second to none. It seems to be full of private school people from what I hear, but it can't be that bad, and I hear the department is pretty much the best in the university, with an amazingly friendly atmosphere. I'd be able to go home a lot too.


I'm trying to make the exact same decision (except I'd still have to pay for Edinburgh).
From what I hear theres barely a hair between them in terms academic reputation and student life.

So the only other things I'm trying to factor in are: i will get an MA from Edinburgh, and i'd have to pay an extra £8000 to do one at KCL. Plus London is expensive, very expensive.

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by Aarong123
So the only other things I'm trying to factor in are: i will get an MA from Edinburgh, and i'd have to pay an extra £8000 to do one at KCL. Plus London is expensive, very expensive.


An MA from (most) Scottish universities is equivalent to a BA elsewhere; if you want to have a Masters degree you would still need to another year at uni.

Reply 3

Most? Which are the exceptions?

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by Aarong123
Most? Which are the exceptions?


i.e. some Scottish universities offer BA rather than MA undergraduate degrees for arts/humanities, such as Edinburgh Napier and UWS.

Reply 5

The university of Edinburgh offers a 4 year MA programme in classics. So is this comparable to a British BA, rather than an MA?

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by Aarong123
The university of Edinburgh offers a 4 year MA programme in classics. So is this comparable to a British BA, rather than an MA?


Yes. The equivalent to a 'British' MA in Classics would be their MSc Classics.

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by Aarong123
I'm trying to make the exact same decision (except I'd still have to pay for Edinburgh).
From what I hear theres barely a hair between them in terms academic reputation and student life.

So the only other things I'm trying to factor in are: i will get an MA from Edinburgh, and i'd have to pay an extra £8000 to do one at KCL. Plus London is expensive, very expensive.


Wow, I'd forgot I even made this thread. I'm in my final year now at King's, and I have to say I think I made the right decision. London is really not as expensive as everyone says, excepting the accomodation. You just have to budget a little more carefully. And there are massive advantages to being here. I did a work placement in my faculty this Summer, and met staff and students from UCL as well as King's, so it's so much more than just studying at KCL. You have access to the University of London, including the institute of Classical Studies library, and the University of London library (both in the same building), as well as KCL's own very impressive library. It's like going to two or even three universities at once.

Not to mention you have the British museum, and the Museum of London, and countless other things, on your doorstep. I swear that I would never have got a 1st Class mark in my 2nd year exams had I not been revising ancient Greek in front of the Parthenon friezes. I can just about read some of the temple inscriptions in there now. :biggrin:

You could probably say the same for Edinburgh as well, but I am currently studying Horace in Latin, and the textbook we are using was written by my tutor. And not just because he set it himself to make money: it's the official Cambridge Classics commentary, the definitive book for the next 50 years on Horace. As in, there's nobody even at Oxford or Cambridge that knows as much about Horace as this guy.

Plus student life is pretty good. There's something for everyone, whatever you like: hard drinking, sports, quiet picnics, fierce political debates, ridiculously rich Arabs and Americans, local Londoners.... I don't actually know anyone at Edinburgh who studies Classics so I don't know how it compares, but I'll bet it's not as varied or exciting.

Criticisms:

It can be a little overwhelming at times, especially if you end up living in some ****hole of a neighbourhood because you can't afford to live in an area that doesn't have a crime rate equal to inner Sao Paulo's. I know a few people who have been mugged, and a lot of people who live very very far out and barely get to see their friends because they live at opposite ends of the city, or even go out in the centre.

Social life can be very expensive. Especially if you like clubbing. I once paid £9 for a pint of beer. In Scotland you would be within your rights to call the police if someone asked for more than £3.50.

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The only reason I'm not definitely going to KCL is the cost. I can support my heavy drinking from corner shops, so the £8 pints don't bother me; Its just the accommodation. What would I be looking to pay for the halls in first year, and private for the following two?

Reply 9

Look at the course at each Uni. They will not be the same. Read the detailed descriptions of all the optional modules/units for all years of the course. Which would you choose - and why?

Think about the cost of living in London. It might sound an exciting place to live but with no money to do anything it wont be a very happy 3 years.

Advice about Classics degrees here :http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wiki/Classics_degree

General advice about 'making choices' here : http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wiki/How_to_Avoid_Getting_5_Rejections

Reply 10

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by Copperknickers
Wow, I'd forgot I even made this thread. I'm in my final year now at King's, and I have to say I think I made the right decision. London is really not as expensive as everyone says, excepting the accomodation. You just have to budget a little more carefully. And there are massive advantages to being here. I did a work placement in my faculty this Summer, and met staff and students from UCL as well as King's, so it's so much more than just studying at KCL. You have access to the University of London, including the institute of Classical Studies library, and the University of London library (both in the same building), as well as KCL's own very impressive library. It's like going to two or even three universities at once.

Not to mention you have the British museum, and the Museum of London, and countless other things, on your doorstep. I swear that I would never have got a 1st Class mark in my 2nd year exams had I not been revising ancient Greek in front of the Parthenon friezes. I can just about read some of the temple inscriptions in there now. :biggrin:

You could probably say the same for Edinburgh as well, but I am currently studying Horace in Latin, and the textbook we are using was written by my tutor. And not just because he set it himself to make money: it's the official Cambridge Classics commentary, the definitive book for the next 50 years on Horace. As in, there's nobody even at Oxford or Cambridge that knows as much about Horace as this guy.

Plus student life is pretty good. There's something for everyone, whatever you like: hard drinking, sports, quiet picnics, fierce political debates, ridiculously rich Arabs and Americans, local Londoners.... I don't actually know anyone at Edinburgh who studies Classics so I don't know how it compares, but I'll bet it's not as varied or exciting.

Criticisms:

It can be a little overwhelming at times, especially if you end up living in some ****hole of a neighbourhood because you can't afford to live in an area that doesn't have a crime rate equal to inner Sao Paulo's. I know a few people who have been mugged, and a lot of people who live very very far out and barely get to see their friends because they live at opposite ends of the city, or even go out in the centre.

Social life can be very expensive. Especially if you like clubbing. I once paid £9 for a pint of beer. In Scotland you would be within your rights to call the police if someone asked for more than £3.50.


Cool thread, thanks bro :biggrin: Glad to hear King's worked out for you.

Did you meet many mature students at King's, btw? (Applying to do Management, gonna be 22 in my first year as I'm currently working :smile:)

I was also thinking of applying to Edinburgh to do Management - does it really not compare to London, then?

Reply 11

Plenty of mature students, if you count Masters students. Management will probably be full of mature students.

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