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David Cameron: "The time has come for gay couples to marry"

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Reply 60
Original post by saim101
Well i haven't really been alive for 25 years :P.
Gay people don't feel the need to use condoms so they are slightly more likely to get AIDS.


Your mum doesn't feel the need to use condoms, her chances of catching aids is also increased. That and because shes a whore.
Original post by saim101
I'm currently studying A2 biology and from what i understand the main purpose of Species is to reproduce or else they die out.
Gay people cannot reproduce so people who say it's genetics are WRONG.
It's their choice if they want to be gay, I think they should be allowed to get married but the NHS shouldn't fund them (They will most likely catch AIDS).
Then again i do believe that NHS shouldn't fund fat people either :P


Ever heard of over-population?
Reply 62
Original post by Violet_apple
This sounds super silly but I'm all teary eyed and happy about it. I know we're past all of the really bad homophobia and I've never had to experience it but I never thought that I'd be able to get married. Even when I was a tiny little kid I knew that a woman doesn't marry a woman. And now I know that I will probably be able to. I never even entertained the idea of me getting married ever and now I'm daydreaming about rainbow coloured cake and stuff. :biggrin:


I know exactly what you mean :smile:
Original post by badcheesecrispy
'I support gay marriage because I am a Conservative' -LMAO one of the most contradictory clown statements I've ever seen hahahaha


And yet Conservatives are amongst those who complain at someone else interfering with their lives.
Original post by saim101
Well i haven't really been alive for 25 years :P.
Gay people don't feel the need to use condoms so they are slightly more likely to get AIDS.


Why do they not, you do know condoms can and are used for anal sex? Also oral? You talk rubbish
Reply 65
Original post by Lord of Ruin
I'm going to play Devil's advocate here. Gay marriage is just another step in the long decline of Western marriage. Let us have a look at how marriage has fared over the years:

http://www.divorcerate.org/divorce-rates-in-uk.html

The increase in divorce rates almost exactly follows feminism's rise to power in our culture. Whether this is due to men refusing to man up or female hypergamy is unimportant. The main point is that with a large shift in our culture against marrying and settling down comes severe consequences: people are becoming more and more depressed and birth rates in the West are falling scarily far behind our foreign friends'.

Now why is it a problem that Westerners are not reproducing as much? Because we cannot rely on immigrants to uphold our values of freedom. Many come to the West specifically looking for a better life and end up in ghettos of their own people. Within these ghettos we see the same sort of savagery that was present in their old country and is their reason for escaping. Why do we let this happen? Because not only are we in the West self hating and criticizing our culture in favour of "multiculturalism" but also because Westerners (yes, mostly Caucasians) are becoming a minority in our own countries. With minority status comes powerlessness and an inability to defend the values and freedoms that were given to us by the sacrifice of our predecessors.

The main purpose of marriage outside of religious reasons is procreation, pure and simple (and redistribution of sex). Marriage is a social contract between a man and a woman which says that both have commitment to each other "til death do us part", financial and emotion. Not only this, but they have a commitment to any children they bring into this world by giving them the best possibly upbringing they can.

We have strayed far from this. Divorces rate have skyrocketed. Children of single moms tend to become losers in life. Divorces can wreck a child emotionally and yet we stand idly by and let this happen.

So in conclusion for gay marriages: are we not further diluting the concept of marriage? Isn't it already buried deep enough that we should be digging it out instead of pouring more sand on it? We already have seen how straying from the purest concept of marriage has disastrous implications for society. Can we afford to wreck ourselves further?


with the population topping 7 billion, procreation is not high on our concerns list. I don't see how this dilutes the concept of marriage; gay people marrying is not going to result in straight couples from refusing to do so, nor is it likely to make straight couples spontaneously divorce. divorce has risen because there is no longer a stigma against it. now unhappy couples simply split up, rather than staying in a loveless marriage out of cultural obligation like they did a few generations back.

I think its a step forward they can marry, this world is so full of hate that letting a few more people express their love can only be a good thing.
Reply 66
Original post by PeterOkenla11
When are they going to legalise incest?


Yes, because the two are clearly the same thing.

Original post by saim101
I'm currently studying A2 biology and from what i understand the main purpose of Species is to reproduce or else they die out.
Gay people cannot reproduce so people who say it's genetics are WRONG.
It's their choice if they want to be gay, I think they should be allowed to get married but the NHS shouldn't fund them (They will most likely catch AIDS).
Then again i do believe that NHS shouldn't fund fat people either :P


Homosexuality =/= infertility
Homosexuality =/= a choice
Homosexuality =/= a higher likelihood of catching AIDS. In 2010, the majority of new diagnoses of HIV/AIDS in Great Britain were among heterosexual men (while being a lesbian, I actually have a lower chance than you of catching it)
Original post by saim101
Well i haven't really been alive for 25 years :P.
Gay people don't feel the need to use condoms so they are slightly more likely to get AIDS.


No, irresponsible people do not feel the need to use condoms when they have sex. There are irresponsible gay people and irresponsible straight people who are having sex without condoms and getting STIs, including AIDS.
Original post by Jester94
Yes, because the two are clearly the same thing.



Homosexuality =/= infertility
Homosexuality =/= a choice
Homosexuality =/= a higher likelihood of catching AIDS. In 2010, the majority of new diagnoses of HIV/AIDS in Great Britain were among heterosexual men (while being a lesbian, I actually have a lower chance than you of catching it)


erm no there not...
Original post by saim101
I'm currently studying A2 biology and from what i understand the main purpose of Species is to reproduce or else they die out.
Gay people cannot reproduce so people who say it's genetics are WRONG.
It's their choice if they want to be gay, I think they should be allowed to get married but the NHS shouldn't fund them (They will most likely catch AIDS).
Then again i do believe that NHS shouldn't fund fat people either :P


Oh STFU, studying an A-level in anything doesn't make you a ****ing specialist. That whole "gay-plague with AIDS" thing is so out-dated, too.
Reply 70
Original post by goape
rational vote maximising


Okay. Just remember Section 28 and who brought that in. And just remember Cameron's decision to ally with the ECR.
Reply 71
Original post by Perseveranze
Disappointing to say the least.

If by granting gays marriage rights increases their willingness to "come out", then I can see nothing good or progressive in this. I fear that the social pressure will inevitably increase, and the statistics for depression and suicides will also be higher.

For a mere title, it was/is not worth it.


Aw, its always cute when homophobic tools use the pretending to care approach. I find it incredibly alluring. Fancy going for a drink? You seem, like, totally up my street.
Reply 72
Original post by PeterOkenla11
erm no there not...


If you're referring to the first sentence of my post, I was being sarcastic as incest and homosexuality are clearly not the same thing.
Reply 73
Perhaps if he concentrated more on the economy and less on homos, we wouldn't be in this economic mess. Needs to get his priorities straight!
Reply 74
Cameron and Clegg together forever in holy matrimony......

On a more serious note, good, people should be able to marry whoever they want regardless of sexuality.
Reply 75
Original post by saim101
Well i haven't really been alive for 25 years :P.
Gay people don't feel the need to use condoms so they are slightly more likely to get AIDS.


Er, are you aware of how many heterosexual couples have sex without protection? Do you think that only gay people can get HIV? Oh dear, you should possibly report your teachers for giving you such a *******s education. Bless.
(edited 11 years ago)
Reply 76
Original post by Playa10
Perhaps if he concentrated more on the economy and less on homos, we wouldn't be in this economic mess. Needs to get his priorities straight!


Ah yes, because Mr Cameron never stops campaigning for LGBTQ rights. Get a grip.
Original post by badcheesecrispy
'I support gay marriage because I am a Conservative' -LMAO one of the most contradictory clown statements I've ever seen hahahaha


Not particularly, Conservatives believe the family is the best way for people to be organised for a stable and prosperous society. As attitudes have evolved into thinking gays deserve equality, it makes sense to enable gay people to enjoy the same stable family as straight people. This goes hand in hand with the belief it is acceptable for gay people to raise children.

Homophobic attitudes in conservative thought are really just as out of date as they are in left-wing circles.
Original post by Jester94
If you're referring to the first sentence of my post, I was being sarcastic as incest and homosexuality are clearly not the same thing.


Loool i know that! im just saying since they've legalised gay marrige they should legalise incest too. you cant help who you fall in love with? or would you disagree?
Reply 79
Original post by ohirome
Ah yes, because Mr Cameron never stops campaigning for LGBTQ rights. Get a grip.


They have equal rights in respect of everything through civil partnership. Not sure why he's going to waste Commons time in debating about this trivial issue

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