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Reply 100
Original post by James82
Make the filters as strict as you want, a simple proxy will get round them, unless you also ban the millions of proxies as well, then you'd have to ban all the new ones that are created every minute of every day. Even if they managed to keep up with the proxy filtering they would just end up pushing people onto the dark web, and there's stuff on there you wouldn't want adults seeing let alone children.


Yes, I know they can't block stuff completely. My point was they'll make it broad because they think that'll stop it, which will end up pissing off everyone who visits any site which has a picture of a woman in her underwear as they now have to ring up and opt in to their ISP's 'porn package' or have to remember to go through a proxy each time they want to read about the next PotC.
Reply 101
If parent's don't want their child to view porn. Don't give them access to a personal laptop. It's quite simple. But parents are always willing to push the blame on something else.
the government should tax internet porn on a sliding scale... only taxpayers would be allowed to watch it. soon the coffers would be overflowing. end of economic crisis.
Original post by PeterOkenla11
I already apologised if i came across as rude thank you. :smile:
Sorry but that isn't my problem, if thats the case you need to be a bit more specific. Now are you telling me that the 'drugs' you were reffering to you were the non-harmful types used for medical reason? Then in what way are these drugs 'fun' (well its your opinion i guess).
To focus more on the thread, Porn is being acessed by those below the age of consent. Laws must be put i place to protect those vunerable. There is nothing wrong with that. do you beg to differ? If so please state.


I was referring to "recreational" rather than medical, there are plenty of currently illegal ones that are only illegal because of decades of bull**** propaganda/fear-mongering.

Anyway back to the thread - it's a surely parent's job to look after what their kid is doing. Why should the rest of the world be punished because they're too lazy or incompetent to police their child's internet use? That's not a difficult thing to do. Any child young enough to be damaged by exposure to porn (assuming that's even possible) should be nowhere near the internet in the first place.
Reply 104
Its a parents duty to monitor there children on the internet.

Everyone elses internet usage should not be governed because of bad parenting and extremist religeous groups.
Reply 105
Porn should definitely be banned imo apart from softcore porn-here is why:

a) The internet is a great tool for learning and research but now it is so completely saturated with pornography that encountering such material is unavoidable even if parents try to control their children's viewing the children will come into contact with it. The internet should be a clean and friendly resource available to all age groups.

b) Pornography is very often not between two consenting adults and leads to abuse of human rights. Thousands of children are abused each year to produce child pornography-these children are being abused to make these videos. So how many adult women are being abused in the making of porn? The answer is A LOT. Contrary to popular belief many women who participate in porn are poor and/or addicted to drugs and porn producers exploit them by paying to effectively abuse and degrade them. There is a large number of such material all over the internet which depicts vile acts against women such as gagging, spitting on them, choking them until they vomit and then making them eat it etc the women in such videos are clearly being abused and this type of material is becoming more prevalent.

c) It is difficult to prove that porn harms us but creating such mass exposure to videos and images that degrade women must warp the minds of people in society. In porn women are referred to with all kinds of names-it's incredibly disrespectful in both language and behaviour displayed towards women. I feel it very much undermines social decency.

d) Porn really doesn't have any positives apart from people enjoy it and this is not sufficient to allow it to continue. I think it is important to maintain the decency of society and to maintain more positive and respectful views of women rather than to allow our culture and media to become saturated with base material which obviously also seeps into the mainstream

I can list many more reasons why i disagree with porn. I think the main thing is that it's important not to get sucked into the common view entrenched in society that 'porn is fine it does no harm and everyone that condemns it must be a dictator' and instead think carefully about the issue with your own mind.
Reply 106
i bet its the playboy magazines who want to boost their sales. Internet porn has probably made them bankrupt :P
Original post by bluemax
i bet its the playboy magazines who want to boost their sales. Internet porn has probably made them bankrupt :P


well the Tories are in power so they'll be some corporation behind it, so thats as good a guess as any
This ban does not concern me :biggrin: but, I have a few questions....

When does this ban come into place?

How will they do it?

How are people suppose to prove they are 18?

What if the childeren use the neighbourghs internet because its un-secured or are say at starbucks on their smartphones?

P.S. as I said this ban does not concern me; but is completly stupid :wink: talk about democracy....
Reply 109
doesnt matter, they couldnt enforce it
Original post by thecrimsonidol
I'm sure people who have been jailed for murder, theft, assault etc. all did what they wished....should they have been allowed to?
People don't interact well, hence the need for regulation.

As for the topic, it's a tough one...I don't see any harm in it as such, though the idea of limiting access by giving a proof of age or something is a very good idea.

People do say "it's the parents job to raise their children" and while this is true, not all parents will do it.


how can you compare murder and assault to watching porn lmao.
I agree with banning. But isn't there another problem?

Couldn't young people just go on google usa, google france, google europe, and access that stuff over there? Because the Government can't ban that stuff, could they?
Original post by The Marshall
I agree with banning. But isn't there another problem?

Couldn't young people just go on google usa, google france, google europe, and access that stuff over there? Because the Government can't ban that stuff, could they?


Seeing as you must be technologically illiterate, you no longer have any right to say anything about the matter.
Original post by silver9
Porn should definitely be banned imo apart from softcore porn-here is why:

a) The internet is a great tool for learning and research but now it is so completely saturated with pornography that encountering such material is unavoidable even if parents try to control their children's viewing the children will come into contact with it. The internet should be a clean and friendly resource available to all age groups.


If parents control their children's viewing then they won't come into contact with it.



Original post by silver9


b) Pornography is very often not between two consenting adults and leads to abuse of human rights. Thousands of children are abused each year to produce child pornography-these children are being abused to make these videos. So how many adult women are being abused in the making of porn? The answer is A LOT. Contrary to popular belief many women who participate in porn are poor and/or addicted to drugs and porn producers exploit them by paying to effectively abuse and degrade them. There is a large number of such material all over the internet which depicts vile acts against women such as gagging, spitting on them, choking them until they vomit and then making them eat it etc the women in such videos are clearly being abused and this type of material is becoming more prevalent.


Funny how you have no statistics to back this up.




Original post by silver9


c) It is difficult to prove that porn harms us but creating such mass exposure to videos and images that degrade women must warp the minds of people in society. In porn women are referred to with all kinds of names-it's incredibly disrespectful in both language and behaviour displayed towards women. I feel it very much undermines social decency.


Aka I am making everything up

Original post by silver9

d) Porn really doesn't have any positives apart from people enjoy it and this is not sufficient to allow it to continue. I think it is important to maintain the decency of society and to maintain more positive and respectful views of women rather than to allow our culture and media to become saturated with base material which obviously also seeps into the mainstream


Aka I like to tell people what I think is decent or not
Reply 114
Funny how you have no statistics to back this up.

I don't have the stats on hand but they are out there. Firstly do some web surfing-you will find some pretty bad stuff. This is also a good starting point-it is a conference by some leading psychologists and academics on the issue.
http://www.socialcostsofpornography.com/videos.php

If parents control their children's viewing then they won't come into contact with it.

I think this is incorrect-many parents may not bother to install filters just because they are lazy or whatever and kids will still view it on their friends phones etc. I remember at my house we had filters but when my sister was 6 she was being shown some videos of some horrible stuff by some boys in the years above and it upset her. I think this needs to be legislated at national/international level.

Aka I am making everything up

I don't think we need to have research to back everything up I think we must as a society just accept some things are decent and some things are not. There is no evidence that segregating black and white children in classrooms really harms either group but the US lifted apartheid because it was deemed morally wrong in principle. The same with pornography-I think that abuse and disrespect towards women should simply be removed in principle-with or without research I think this should not be accepted. I we as a society should value modesty and curtail influences that are disrespectful, violent, abusive or trashy. I almost think that the culture is so degraded that people no longer hold any such values.
Reply 115
This is also pretty interesting-an interview with either the highest paid or one of the highest paid pornographic actresses on the Tyra Banks show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxUq_zzvAaA

I personally think porn is a vile industry which involves a lot of exploitation. I don't think it's always perfectly professional and consensual as some people may think.
Reply 116
I've been watching porn everday since I was 12, i'm now 20, **** i really need help...
Reply 117
Original post by cool pilot dude

What if the childeren use the neighbourghs internet because its un-secured or are say at starbucks on their smartphones?


i cant see anyone being desperate enough to have a quickie in starbucks :2euk48l:
Reply 118
Original post by silver9
a) encountering such material is unavoidable even if parents try to control their children's viewing the children will come into contact with it.

b) Pornography is very often not between two consenting adults and leads to abuse of human rights. Thousands of children are abused each year to produce child pornography-these children are being abused to make these videos. So how many adult women are being abused in the making of porn?

c) It is difficult to prove that porn harms us but creating such mass exposure to videos and images that degrade women must warp the minds of people in society.

d) Porn really doesn't have any positives apart from people enjoy it and this is not sufficient to allow it to continue.

I can list many more reasons why i disagree with porn.


You're probably not here for debate but here to enforce your views on others, but if you actually care you'll read on:

A) There are tools and features to block pronography and other content unsuitable for minors. The people who use the argument you've used in A are quite simply bad parents. They don't have the integrity to take responsibility for their children. They can't even be bothered.

B) Your comparison to child porn is failed logic. Child porn involves children, children who are being forced. The adults in a porn movie has accepted a contract and gone there of their own free will. Your argument to this is that they are effectively being forced because of their situation. This is again faulty as, for those individuals, you are ignoring what got them in their drug-addicted or money-needing situation in the first place - themselves. We are all adults (I wish), we are responsible for our own lives, and their other ways, far better ways, of making money.

All the actors in porn have a shot at getting a job working at McDonalds or a 9-5 office job.

However all this ignores the most important thing - these are consenting adults. Some of the porn stars you (don't) see are doms for a living, they're self-employed, or they're just average joes who are basically getting paid to have sex.

What is your evidence that the porn industry is equal to rape and child porn?

C) This ignores all the female-empowering porn out there, and there's a heck of a lot of it. Domestic abuse and gender inequality exists now, but it also existed decades before internet porn or even porn in media. In fact, I'm sure domestic abuse etc. was far more prevalent back then.

Does that mean that porn has actually helped women get treated with respect? Or are we just connecting two random things?

With that in mind, what you said is telling, and is connected with my response to A: "It is difficult to prove that porn harms us but creating such mass exposure to videos and images that degrade women must warp the minds of people in society."

What does that quote sound like to you?...

D) Most of the things that you use only exist for your enjoyment and are not needed, and it's guaranteed that if there was a bill passed to ban them you would be complaining AGAINST it.

I can also argue at least one thing that porn helps - it lowers the prevalence of adultery and cheating. Like it or not, males are created and wired to spread their seed. They need to have constant sex while virile, and with many different and virile females. That's mother nature, it's not choice, it is barely an urge, but it just IS. It is BEING. It is why we're here.

This is why males are known as the cheaters in society, as it's far more prevalent with them. If you have a boyfriend or husband, it would be quite something if you could see in this alternate reality if your other half cheats on you in this porn-less dimension you've created.

Note how in the poll "a person has needs" is quite a close second. This is not a joke or 'funny' answer.

Please list your many more reasons. I can't simply assume that if you made a list of 10 reasons, they just wouldn't be repeats of previous reasons and scraping the barrel. If you actually have more reasons.
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Reply 119
Original post by silver9
This is also pretty interesting-an interview with either the highest paid or one of the highest paid pornographic actresses on the Tyra Banks show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxUq_zzvAaA

I personally think porn is a vile industry which involves a lot of exploitation. I don't think it's always perfectly professional and consensual as some people may think.


This is a fraudulent video and is accepted as such. This has been stamped as 'yellow journalism' (a more famous example being Martin Bashir and Michael Jackson) - the interview was given, and then it was edited before broadcast to create a different interview.

The key word you've used is 'think', and you've used it a lot despite your strong claims. Have you ever even talked to anyone in porn? Do you know the men and women you're discriminating against and insulting?

Do you seriously believe that there's a possibility that an intelligent species based on sex and reproduction is not going to create content to please others based on this, and that such content is forced, illogical and wrong? That makes no sense. The only outcome in this scenario is a porn industry of consenting adults. Porn has existed a long, long time in one form or another. The difference between then and now is the internet makes it readily available.
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