Any students here who took ESO instead of GCSE's?
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You guys seem to take "this guiri thing" the wrong way. For me is just normal.
If I'm in England and I'm the only spaniard in class, I asume I'm gonna be "the spaniard". And I don't see why I should take it as an ofence. They probably just felt curious because you were foreign, just that.
If they don't say "guiri" with a grin in their faces then it's probably you taking it personal.
If I'm in England and I'm the only spaniard in class, I asume I'm gonna be "the spaniard". And I don't see why I should take it as an ofence. They probably just felt curious because you were foreign, just that.
If they don't say "guiri" with a grin in their faces then it's probably you taking it personal.
Original post by r4ndom
You guys seem to take "this guiri thing" the wrong way. For me is just normal.
If I'm in England and I'm the only spaniard in class, I asume I'm gonna be "the spaniard". And I don't see why I should take it as an ofence. They probably just felt curious because you were foreign, just that.
If they don't say "guiri" with a grin in their faces then it's probably you taking it personal.
If I'm in England and I'm the only spaniard in class, I asume I'm gonna be "the spaniard". And I don't see why I should take it as an ofence. They probably just felt curious because you were foreign, just that.
If they don't say "guiri" with a grin in their faces then it's probably you taking it personal.
No i'm just talking about people saying it with bad intentions. I really don't mind when my mates call me it, but when you get some ***hole insulting saying stuff like "guiri de mierda" or even just "guiri" with a nasty look on their face...(which I used to experience back when I couldn't speak the language and therefore defend myself from insults) I'm well aware that some people say it joking around or just as mates, but you can tell when their not... :P
Original post by r4ndom
You guys seem to take "this guiri thing" the wrong way. For me is just normal.
If I'm in England and I'm the only spaniard in class, I asume I'm gonna be "the spaniard". And I don't see why I should take it as an ofence. They probably just felt curious because you were foreign, just that.
If they don't say "guiri" with a grin in their faces then it's probably you taking it personal.
If I'm in England and I'm the only spaniard in class, I asume I'm gonna be "the spaniard". And I don't see why I should take it as an ofence. They probably just felt curious because you were foreign, just that.
If they don't say "guiri" with a grin in their faces then it's probably you taking it personal.
Well I don't think the French appreciate being called "frogs", no matter how we say it. Same thing.
Original post by HarryRoper
No i'm just talking about people saying it with bad intentions. I really don't mind when my mates call me it, but when you get some ***hole insulting saying stuff like "guiri de mierda" or even just "guiri" with a nasty look on their face...(which I used to experience back when I couldn't speak the language and therefore defend myself from insults) I'm well aware that some people say it joking around or just as mates, but you can tell when their not... :P
yeah that's different, but if you were not foreign they would just choose anything else that makes you different and try to insult you with that.
Original post by MrHappy_J
Well I don't think the French appreciate being called "frogs", no matter how we say it. Same thing.
I don't know the rest of Spain, but for me guiri is not despective as gabacho (we call that to frenchs instead of frog) ...
So once again it depends on how you take it
Original post by r4ndom
_____________________
Now more seriusly...
Let me see if I understood you well.
-They made you repeat 2 subjetcs.
-You did it and find it easy.
-Now they advise you to do the A-levels and the problem that you face it's that you find them too easy too???
Well, If I understood you right.. I don't see the problem ^^
Just do the A-level??
Don't get too exited, that's one subject Spain beats the UK on. Anyway, if you're like me you don't need super hard Mathematics for life, so it's retarded that Spanish prefer to teach Maths at a higher level rather than Science/English/ICT (which sucks in Spain) which are actually useful and required in life.
Original post by MizzSaf
Hello! I am so glad that I found this. Currently I am struggling to finding the right pathway for me. The trouble comes with having done Spanish ESO and not GCSE's, the same problem with you.
Last year I came back to England having finished my Spanish ESO, I applied for English A Levels and they said everything was fine, later on in the year I came to enrol on them, to find they wouldn't accept my ESO, and that my grades weren't high enough, what suprised me that they wouldn't count my English ESO (which I got a 10) as an equivalent to the to English GCSE (which I found fair because well, it is my native language but I did only study it till the age of 9 and it was studied as a second language) but they did count my SPANISH CASTELLANO LITERATURA Y LENGUAJE as an GCSE equivalent because I only got a 5, to me, if they don't count my english to be equivalent, (even though I do speak it perfectly) nor should they count my Spanish GCSE to be equivalent to theirs. It was done as a first language and to a native spanish speakers level. So after all that they made me for the past year retake my English and maths GCSE. I found to level to be way below what the level is in Spain, (My IES was a quite high level compared to other IES that I had previously been to).
After having to retake these 2 subjects , now at 19, I am finding it hard to go to the next level. They are advising me to do my A levels, but the Spanish A level is way under my level of spanish, because I haven't got the knowledge proven and wrote down on paper then I can't get anywhere. I feel like doing my ESO in Spain has been a complete waste of time, I have been put down all the time and like punished even in the spanish schools, because I speak Spanish as a native Spanish person would do, and I speak English like a native English person would do, with this what occured at spanish school is I use to say in History class " I find it really hard to memorize because I am English" the answer I got was " But you were only born there, your language is Spanish" . What are my options? Why do I have to be put back in a Language where I speak it to perfection? I am multilingual and I want to use this talent and not to be put back.
Any help for me?
(I moved to Spain at the age of 9 from England and was put straight into a public Spanish school, having to learn two languages at once , as I went to Valencia and they teach Valenciano aswell)
Last year I came back to England having finished my Spanish ESO, I applied for English A Levels and they said everything was fine, later on in the year I came to enrol on them, to find they wouldn't accept my ESO, and that my grades weren't high enough, what suprised me that they wouldn't count my English ESO (which I got a 10) as an equivalent to the to English GCSE (which I found fair because well, it is my native language but I did only study it till the age of 9 and it was studied as a second language) but they did count my SPANISH CASTELLANO LITERATURA Y LENGUAJE as an GCSE equivalent because I only got a 5, to me, if they don't count my english to be equivalent, (even though I do speak it perfectly) nor should they count my Spanish GCSE to be equivalent to theirs. It was done as a first language and to a native spanish speakers level. So after all that they made me for the past year retake my English and maths GCSE. I found to level to be way below what the level is in Spain, (My IES was a quite high level compared to other IES that I had previously been to).
After having to retake these 2 subjects , now at 19, I am finding it hard to go to the next level. They are advising me to do my A levels, but the Spanish A level is way under my level of spanish, because I haven't got the knowledge proven and wrote down on paper then I can't get anywhere. I feel like doing my ESO in Spain has been a complete waste of time, I have been put down all the time and like punished even in the spanish schools, because I speak Spanish as a native Spanish person would do, and I speak English like a native English person would do, with this what occured at spanish school is I use to say in History class " I find it really hard to memorize because I am English" the answer I got was " But you were only born there, your language is Spanish" . What are my options? Why do I have to be put back in a Language where I speak it to perfection? I am multilingual and I want to use this talent and not to be put back.
Any help for me?
(I moved to Spain at the age of 9 from England and was put straight into a public Spanish school, having to learn two languages at once , as I went to Valencia and they teach Valenciano aswell)
Same situation as me (going there at age of 9, same area etc...) however for 3ESO and 4ESO (year 10/11) I was in UK so I did my GCSEs, however I'll try to help you:
English you study in Spain is at a much lower level than English GCSE so it doesn't count.
As for other subjects (except for Mathematics which you're correct it's harder in Spain) they don't like ESO as it's very weak and easy when compared to GCSE. I'm sure you understand why things are so hard for you?
You went to Spain like me, it's a terrible country (easier education system, less people pass than UK, students behaviour is under the national average unlike UK which is above it etc...) I know it sucks but that's why you're having so many problems now.
I went to an IES too.
Original post by Namige
It's strange how there are so many people who say GCSEs are rubbish etc. yet the UK has some of the best universities in the world and many more great universities. So the education system must be doing something right..
Check PM I sent you.
UK is the best, people are just too spoilt to know better. I'm basing what I just said on proper statistics (not News paper ****) and personal/family experience (Spain, Hungry, UK, Ireland).
Original post by Mr_PC
Same situation as me (going there at age of 9, same area etc...) however for 3ESO and 4ESO (year 10/11) I was in UK so I did my GCSEs, however I'll try to help you:
English you study in Spain is at a much lower level than English GCSE so it doesn't count.
As for other subjects (except for Mathematics which you're correct it's harder in Spain) they don't like ESO as it's very weak and easy when compared to GCSE. I'm sure you understand why things are so hard for you?
You went to Spain like me, it's a terrible country (easier education system, less people pass than UK, students behaviour is under the national average unlike UK which is above it etc...) I know it sucks but that's why you're having so many problems now.
I went to an IES too.
English you study in Spain is at a much lower level than English GCSE so it doesn't count.
As for other subjects (except for Mathematics which you're correct it's harder in Spain) they don't like ESO as it's very weak and easy when compared to GCSE. I'm sure you understand why things are so hard for you?
You went to Spain like me, it's a terrible country (easier education system, less people pass than UK, students behaviour is under the national average unlike UK which is above it etc...) I know it sucks but that's why you're having so many problems now.
I went to an IES too.
i didnt know maths in spain was harder, what do you base that on?
Original post by MrHappy_J
i didnt know maths in spain was harder, what do you base that on?
That's based on personal experience, sorry should've been based on proper evidence.
But basically what we learnt in 1ESO gets taught in year10/11 in UK, I assumed things would just get harder...?
P.S You any good at Economics? If you know anyone that could help out with this: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2209327&p=40709299#post40709299
Original post by Mr_PC
That's based on personal experience, sorry should've been based on proper evidence.
But basically what we learnt in 1ESO gets taught in year10/11 in UK, I assumed things would just get harder...?
P.S You any good at Economics? If you know anyone that could help out with this: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2209327&p=40709299#post40709299
But basically what we learnt in 1ESO gets taught in year10/11 in UK, I assumed things would just get harder...?
P.S You any good at Economics? If you know anyone that could help out with this: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2209327&p=40709299#post40709299
haha sorry, no good with economics.
i was just surprised that you said that because i got an Excellente in mathematics so its surely easier in Spain than in England.
Original post by MrHappy_J
haha sorry, no good with economics.
i was just surprised that you said that because i got an Excellente in mathematics so its surely easier in Spain than in England.
i was just surprised that you said that because i got an Excellente in mathematics so its surely easier in Spain than in England.
I got a 5 in Spain, C in UK. I hate Maths.
Anyway please find someone ASAP that can help with that question!
P.S Are you really a girl, did you get changed or something, or is it a joke?
Original post by Mr_PC
I got a 5 in Spain, C in UK. I hate Maths.
Anyway please find someone ASAP that can help with that question!
P.S Are you really a girl, did you get changed or something, or is it a joke?
Anyway please find someone ASAP that can help with that question!
P.S Are you really a girl, did you get changed or something, or is it a joke?
yh i hate maths too.
lol im a girl.
Original post by Mr_PC
Same situation as me (going there at age of 9, same area etc...) however for 3ESO and 4ESO (year 10/11) I was in UK so I did my GCSEs, however I'll try to help you:
English you study in Spain is at a much lower level than English GCSE so it doesn't count.
As for other subjects (except for Mathematics which you're correct it's harder in Spain) they don't like ESO as it's very weak and easy when compared to GCSE. I'm sure you understand why things are so hard for you?
You went to Spain like me, it's a terrible country (easier education system, less people pass than UK, students behaviour is under the national average unlike UK which is above it etc...) I know it sucks but that's why you're having so many problems now.
I went to an IES too.
English you study in Spain is at a much lower level than English GCSE so it doesn't count.
As for other subjects (except for Mathematics which you're correct it's harder in Spain) they don't like ESO as it's very weak and easy when compared to GCSE. I'm sure you understand why things are so hard for you?
You went to Spain like me, it's a terrible country (easier education system, less people pass than UK, students behaviour is under the national average unlike UK which is above it etc...) I know it sucks but that's why you're having so many problems now.
I went to an IES too.
I wouldn't say its a terrible country, just... "in development"
In the other hand, YES there is a terrible learning environment, but honestly if someone is interested enough to get the grades, he/she will soon learn to not be affected by it and become a brilliant student, no matter in which educational system are we talking about.
Also, regarding private/public schooling in Spain. The private ones are not worth it, because they grade you corresponding your family influence in the school. I went to a german school there, I can tell. They were just trying to make us believe our education was top notch. I always did my best and other lazy kids received better grades just because the teacher was the cousin/mother/friend/relative/owed something to their parents.
Thirdly, many foreign people disregard IES but in reality, kids get a more rounded and tougher education. In my case, after ESO in the german school I went to do bachillerato to the oldest IES of my county and hell, I'm glad I did! Not only my grades got much better, but also all my teachers were professors at University, holding minimum a Phd in their subject and for example in mathematics and latin, we were learning already the content of 1st undergrad. It's no surprise a bunch of us got Cum Laude at the end of 2nd bachillerato. A spanish friend of mine from the IES got last year into Oxford and I have published several research I did while studying there. In the meantime I'm waiting for a response from Cambridge
As you all can see, there are many different faces of Spanish education, and I'm sorry your experiences were bad. If only the quality of all the IES could be standarized....
currently doing my last year of ESO
literally gonna beg my parents to let me move to england so I can do a levels 'cause I'm just so done with this education system
literally gonna beg my parents to let me move to england so I can do a levels 'cause I'm just so done with this education system
Original post by Emmaaaaaaa
currently doing my last year of ESO
literally gonna beg my parents to let me move to england so I can do a levels 'cause I'm just so done with this education system
literally gonna beg my parents to let me move to england so I can do a levels 'cause I'm just so done with this education system
stay strong and dont let them get to you.
Hey! I found this post on google hoping I would find other people in the same situation as me and I'm glad I did!
First I'll be brief with my story. Born in the UK, 8 months later I was on a plane to Spain and I lived there for 18 years, now I moved to a very small village in the province of Alicante, the village called Benidoleig had a small school there (very good and friendly) that educated everyone in Valenciano, now, this language is similar to Spanish but very different in some ways also.
After primary school I started with Secondary (ESO) in a village next to Benidoleig, i done all 4 years of the ESO, and after that I went on to study a college course in Forestry (this course lasted 2 years) The only way i learned English is from my parents and because I learned myself when i was old enough.
After the massive corruption because of greedy people in Spain i now live in England, working at a full time job I don't really like and hoping to study something in Forestry again but over here in the UK. I'm just trying to find out what all my 13 subjects of the ESO translate to over here in the UK so I can at least put them on my CV and maybe study some college here!
Peace!
First I'll be brief with my story. Born in the UK, 8 months later I was on a plane to Spain and I lived there for 18 years, now I moved to a very small village in the province of Alicante, the village called Benidoleig had a small school there (very good and friendly) that educated everyone in Valenciano, now, this language is similar to Spanish but very different in some ways also.
After primary school I started with Secondary (ESO) in a village next to Benidoleig, i done all 4 years of the ESO, and after that I went on to study a college course in Forestry (this course lasted 2 years) The only way i learned English is from my parents and because I learned myself when i was old enough.
After the massive corruption because of greedy people in Spain i now live in England, working at a full time job I don't really like and hoping to study something in Forestry again but over here in the UK. I'm just trying to find out what all my 13 subjects of the ESO translate to over here in the UK so I can at least put them on my CV and maybe study some college here!
Peace!
Hi everyone!
I basically come from the same situation as you all, moved to spain when I was 7 and have been studying there eversince.
The thing is I am now doing Bachillerato (going in to 2º) and would like to go to Cambridge for uni, but I dont know what to call my qualifications, european baccalaureate??
And I'm also a bit nervous about my level in the subjects, because althou I have good grades (media de 9.5 )I don't know if I will be at the same level as the UK If I have to take any tests to get into Cambridge.
thanks!
I basically come from the same situation as you all, moved to spain when I was 7 and have been studying there eversince.
The thing is I am now doing Bachillerato (going in to 2º) and would like to go to Cambridge for uni, but I dont know what to call my qualifications, european baccalaureate??
And I'm also a bit nervous about my level in the subjects, because althou I have good grades (media de 9.5
)I don't know if I will be at the same level as the UK If I have to take any tests to get into Cambridge. thanks!
Original post by Nobodyme
Hi everyone!
I basically come from the same situation as you all, moved to spain when I was 7 and have been studying there eversince.
The thing is I am now doing Bachillerato (going in to 2º) and would like to go to Cambridge for uni, but I dont know what to call my qualifications, european baccalaureate??
And I'm also a bit nervous about my level in the subjects, because althou I have good grades (media de 9.5 )I don't know if I will be at the same level as the UK If I have to take any tests to get into Cambridge.
thanks!
I basically come from the same situation as you all, moved to spain when I was 7 and have been studying there eversince.
The thing is I am now doing Bachillerato (going in to 2º) and would like to go to Cambridge for uni, but I dont know what to call my qualifications, european baccalaureate??
And I'm also a bit nervous about my level in the subjects, because althou I have good grades (media de 9.5
)I don't know if I will be at the same level as the UK If I have to take any tests to get into Cambridge. thanks!
youll have to say that you're doing International baccalaureate.
youll be fine, Cambridge accepts qualifications other than GCSEs and A levels plus they have their own entrance exams.
Original post by TehRo55
Hey! I found this post on google hoping I would find other people in the same situation as me and I'm glad I did!
First I'll be brief with my story. Born in the UK, 8 months later I was on a plane to Spain and I lived there for 18 years, now I moved to a very small village in the province of Alicante, the village called Benidoleig had a small school there (very good and friendly) that educated everyone in Valenciano, now, this language is similar to Spanish but very different in some ways also.
After primary school I started with Secondary (ESO) in a village next to Benidoleig, i done all 4 years of the ESO, and after that I went on to study a college course in Forestry (this course lasted 2 years) The only way i learned English is from my parents and because I learned myself when i was old enough.
After the massive corruption because of greedy people in Spain i now live in England, working at a full time job I don't really like and hoping to study something in Forestry again but over here in the UK. I'm just trying to find out what all my 13 subjects of the ESO translate to over here in the UK so I can at least put them on my CV and maybe study some college here!
Peace!
First I'll be brief with my story. Born in the UK, 8 months later I was on a plane to Spain and I lived there for 18 years, now I moved to a very small village in the province of Alicante, the village called Benidoleig had a small school there (very good and friendly) that educated everyone in Valenciano, now, this language is similar to Spanish but very different in some ways also.
After primary school I started with Secondary (ESO) in a village next to Benidoleig, i done all 4 years of the ESO, and after that I went on to study a college course in Forestry (this course lasted 2 years) The only way i learned English is from my parents and because I learned myself when i was old enough.
After the massive corruption because of greedy people in Spain i now live in England, working at a full time job I don't really like and hoping to study something in Forestry again but over here in the UK. I'm just trying to find out what all my 13 subjects of the ESO translate to over here in the UK so I can at least put them on my CV and maybe study some college here!
Peace!
hello,
you do not need to put all 13 marks on your cv as employers will mostly not be bothered to look at them. what matters is that you have a C or above in English and Maths. if you want to pm me with your results I may be able to translate them to the british equivalent.
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