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If a course is available in clearing then presumably the uni will be keen to fill the spare places. Do they ever accept students through clearing with lower grades than those who went through the normal admissions process?
In which case, how do you know how far off the normal requirements you could afford to be for them to consider you or is it a case of ringing all of them just to see what they'd take?
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In which case, how do you know how far off the normal requirements you could afford to be for them to consider you or is it a case of ringing all of them just to see what they'd take?
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(Original post by ysgwrn)
If a course is available in clearing then presumably the uni will be keen to fill the spare places. Do they ever accept students through clearing with lower grades than those who went through the normal admissions process?
In which case, how do you know how far off the normal requirements you could afford to be for them to consider you or is it a case of ringing all of them just to see what they'd take?
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If a course is available in clearing then presumably the uni will be keen to fill the spare places. Do they ever accept students through clearing with lower grades than those who went through the normal admissions process?
In which case, how do you know how far off the normal requirements you could afford to be for them to consider you or is it a case of ringing all of them just to see what they'd take?
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Depends on the university.
My old A-level Law teacher somehow got into Sheffield in clearing with ABC. That was a few years back, mind. Early-to-mid 2000s.
My old A-level Law teacher somehow got into Sheffield in clearing with ABC. That was a few years back, mind. Early-to-mid 2000s.
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I'm not sure but my Economics teacher told me that they always let in students with lesser grades, even when they're not in clearing, i just hope its true and portsmouth let me in with like CCE/CCD
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(Original post by ysgwrn)
If a course is available in clearing then presumably the uni will be keen to fill the spare places. Do they ever accept students through clearing with lower grades than those who went through the normal admissions process?
In which case, how do you know how far off the normal requirements you could afford to be for them to consider you or is it a case of ringing all of them just to see what they'd take?
trying to work out a plan if exams go pear shaped
If a course is available in clearing then presumably the uni will be keen to fill the spare places. Do they ever accept students through clearing with lower grades than those who went through the normal admissions process?
In which case, how do you know how far off the normal requirements you could afford to be for them to consider you or is it a case of ringing all of them just to see what they'd take?
trying to work out a plan if exams go pear shaped
For a general strategy, I'd say if you were a grade off, you've got a decent shot. If you're two grades off and it's a place you're very keen on or one of the grades off was a very near miss (because you will have the opportunity to point this out when you phone up), it's worth a try. I wouldn't really bother going much below that.
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Firm choice is BBB/ABC insurance BBC/ABD Getting BCC or ABD would mean going into clearing. Not sure many places worth £9K would go that low with any offer.
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Depends on the university.
My old A-level Law teacher somehow got into Sheffield in clearing with ABC. That was a few years back, mind. Early-to-mid 2000s.
Depends on the university.
My old A-level Law teacher somehow got into Sheffield in clearing with ABC. That was a few years back, mind. Early-to-mid 2000s.
ABC in the early to mid 2000s would have got you into most law courses in the country.
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(Original post by ysgwrn)
Firm choice is BBB/ABC insurance BBC/ABD Getting BCC or ABD would mean going into clearing. Not sure many places worth £9K would go that low with any offer.
Firm choice is BBB/ABC insurance BBC/ABD Getting BCC or ABD would mean going into clearing. Not sure many places worth £9K would go that low with any offer.
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From my experience of clearing last year, no. Unis tend to give out more conditional offers than students they can take, if say they have 100 places, 150 conditional offers given out and only 90 make their offer what they then tend to do is shop around and try and fill those 10 spots with people who do meet the standard offer through clearing. If they then can't fill the places they'll accept people that missed their offer. My insurance choice did this to me last year, they held me for 2 days after results day 'making a decision' - what they were really doing is waiting to find someone better in clearing. They then declined me after clearing was pretty much over.
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My insurance choice did this to me last year, they held me for 2 days after results day 'making a decision' - what they were really doing is waiting to find someone better in clearing. They then declined me after clearing was pretty much over.
My insurance choice did this to me last year, they held me for 2 days after results day 'making a decision' - what they were really doing is waiting to find someone better in clearing. They then declined me after clearing was pretty much over.
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(Original post by Darkarium)
From my experience of clearing last year, no. Unis tend to give out more conditional offers than students they can take, if say they have 100 places, 150 conditional offers given out and only 90 make their offer what they then tend to do is shop around and try and fill those 10 spots with people who do meet the standard offer through clearing. If they then can't fill the places they'll accept people that missed their offer. My insurance choice did this to me last year, they held me for 2 days after results day 'making a decision' - what they were really doing is waiting to find someone better in clearing. They then declined me after clearing was pretty much over.
From my experience of clearing last year, no. Unis tend to give out more conditional offers than students they can take, if say they have 100 places, 150 conditional offers given out and only 90 make their offer what they then tend to do is shop around and try and fill those 10 spots with people who do meet the standard offer through clearing. If they then can't fill the places they'll accept people that missed their offer. My insurance choice did this to me last year, they held me for 2 days after results day 'making a decision' - what they were really doing is waiting to find someone better in clearing. They then declined me after clearing was pretty much over.
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(Original post by Flyteryder)
You're saying that if I don't meet my firm but meet my insurance offer I'm not guaranteed to get my insurance?
You're saying that if I don't meet my firm but meet my insurance offer I'm not guaranteed to get my insurance?
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No - if you make the offer they are obliged to accept you.
No - if you make the offer they are obliged to accept you.
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(Original post by TheSownRose)
This is correct, but some universities try to trick people into thinking their place isn't guaranteed so they can either reduce their numbers enough or get someone better; I'm wondering if that happened to Darkarium, or if he missed the offer.
This is correct, but some universities try to trick people into thinking their place isn't guaranteed so they can either reduce their numbers enough or get someone better; I'm wondering if that happened to Darkarium, or if he missed the offer.
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(Original post by Flyteryder)
You're saying that if I don't meet my firm but meet my insurance offer I'm not guaranteed to get my insurance?
You're saying that if I don't meet my firm but meet my insurance offer I'm not guaranteed to get my insurance?
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Did you meet your insurance offer, or did you miss it but they were considering you and therefore didn't reject you immediately?
Did you meet your insurance offer, or did you miss it but they were considering you and therefore didn't reject you immediately?
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(Original post by Flyteryder)
So if I don't meet my firm but meet my insurance, my insurance might make me beg them for my place? Could they try to trick me into declining their offer by saying they've found somebody better in clearing?
So if I don't meet my firm but meet my insurance, my insurance might make me beg them for my place? Could they try to trick me into declining their offer by saying they've found somebody better in clearing?
It's completely against the rules of UCAS - if you miss your firm but get your insurance, they have to accept you, they are unable to refuse you the place. You don't have to persuade them to accept you over someone else they've found in Clearing. If they start trying to convince you you do, just say (politely but firmly) that you know they have to accept you; if they persist, contact UCAS. They are also not allowed to turn you away because the course is full.It's not common, but people should be aware that some universities have been known to try it, and in some cases have succeeded - we tend to get a couple on here every year who got caught out by not knowing their place was guaranteed.
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I keep having problems getting past the person in the call centre. I got BBD in Geography, Russian and Maths. My original offers were BBB and i was rejected by both my choices. I know that if i can get past the call centre person i'll be able to argue my case with someone higher up, but the only option i see at the moment is to initially lie about my grades just to be put through to the admissions tutors. Any advice?????
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