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Reply 20

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by M1011

I love how you start off trying to legitimise yourself by claiming to work for a different company (not red planet), yet by the final sentence you're saying 'we interview', 'we are a', 'we do not have'... So you do work for Red Planet?

I can see why a genius like you ended up at a door to door sales company. Do you think people are so stupid that they won't see through the fact that the only people who talk positively about this shoddy company are those with a single post? You're a fake and you earn money by misleading young people in to working for you, you should feel ashamed of yourself.

Now kindly go crawl back under whatever rock you scrambled out from :angry:

yeah I work for a company that works along side red planet. I stated this at firstso jump off your high horse. I don't earn money by misleading young people into working for me at all. You obviously know nothing about the company. Yes it is a direct sales company but that's all you lot seem to be focusing on. And because you all have your heads so far up your arses, do you even know what red planet does sales wise? It's actually doing charities. UNICEF, RSPCA etc. so no it is not misleading people at all.
I earn my m
oney through simple sales that I work hard for. Pretty sure 10 years time I'll be so much better off than most of you closed minded people anyway. Before your criticise a company, get facts

Reply 21

M1011

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by Mbarker1

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yeah I work for a company that works along side red planet. I stated this at firstso jump off your high horse. I don't earn money by misleading young people into working for me at all. You obviously know nothing about the company. Yes it is a direct sales company but that's all you lot seem to be focusing on. And because you all have your heads so far up your arses, do you even know what red planet does sales wise? It's actually doing charities. UNICEF, RSPCA etc. so no it is not misleading people at all.
I earn my m
oney through simple sales that I work hard for. Pretty sure 10 years time I'll be so much better off than most of you closed minded people anyway. Before your criticise a company, get facts

My issue isn't that you're a direct sales company. My issue is how you mislead young people with gross overestimations of earning potential and wild stories about management etcetera when in reality you just want the cheapest labour possible to walk door to door for you. No commitment on the part of the company, just the cheapest labour, below minimum wage I imagine, walking around in a dead end job. If you want people to do that be damn well open about it, don't lie. All someone has to do is Google red planet to see all the horror stories, and the only good stories seem to come from mindless 1 post drones like yourself.

Reply 22

Em_Huong

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What is it that they're actually selling?

Reply 23

M1011

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by Em_Huong

What is it that they're actually selling?

Anything from charity stuff to sky subscriptions. It doesn't matter to the company as they're getting a commission per sale, so if a company is willing to pay commission then they'll flog that companies product or service at peoples doors. Makes perfect sense really, wouldn't criticise them based on what they're selling, it's how they go about recruiting that I personally find repulsive.

Reply 24

Em_Huong

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by M1011

Anything from charity stuff to sky subscriptions. It doesn't matter to the company as they're getting a commission per sale, so if a company is willing to pay commission then they'll flog that companies product or service at peoples doors. Makes perfect sense really, wouldn't criticise them based on what they're selling, it's how they go about recruiting that I personally find repulsive.

They need to be transparent in what they are putting out there, and not bring people's hopes up. That's what makes them seem scammy to be honest.

Reply 25

pilgrim66

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by IcEmAn911

What do you actually do to earn £450-600 a week? Is this before tax? What time do you work from and until?

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Hi..
I went for an interview yesterday and they have told me to come back again. It was a joint interview, there were four of us, and the interviewer explained what he wanted us to do. I asked a few questions about the pay and it was very fishy. I suspect it is 100 % commission and all depends on performance. I hope someone could directly answer that question! We were told that the minimum people can earn is 300 per week. I have no doubt that some people can earn that much or even much more, but I believe some people will not be able to earn good money. I am very apprehensive about it. But I want to find out more. I asked if we will be paid for the training and he said the main training lasts just two days and we will be paid after that. I am not sure how much I can earn and how soon, that is my main concern with this kind of job!! I hope to hear from someone who got through training! After the first two interviews did you get the job? I will ask tomorrow. Cheers.

Reply 26

Politics Student

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by pilgrim66

Hi..
I went for an interview yesterday and they have told me to come back again. It was a joint interview, there were four of us, and the interviewer explained what he wanted us to do. I asked a few questions about the pay and it was very fishy. I suspect it is 100 % commission and all depends on performance. I hope someone could directly answer that question! We were told that the minimum people can earn is 300 per week. I have no doubt that some people can earn that much or even much more, but I believe some people will not be able to earn good money. I am very apprehensive about it. But I want to find out more. I asked if we will be paid for the training and he said the main training lasts just two days and we will be paid after that. I am not sure how much I can earn and how soon, that is my main concern with this kind of job!! I hope to hear from someone who got through training! After the first two interviews did you get the job? I will ask tomorrow. Cheers.

If commission only jobs paid more than min wage for all but a small minority. Otherwise if the average person did get what they claimed then they would be paying you at the rate of min wage.

Avoid! It will be door to door getting people to sign up to charities and if they would not tell you about wage then it is commission based.

I have also been tripped up by those adverts looking for graduates with promises of training, promotion to team leader, etc.... And you send off your CV and get a phone call offering an interview which feels wonderful! But then you turn up and get offered the job with little information of the role or even pay... Then they tell you the two days unpaid training.... Then you google the company and get the real information.

The worst aspect of this con is with youth unemployment is so high that accepting it as a great opportunity and then finding out what you really will be doing is just so harmful. There is also the risk that the desperation for finding work is so great that people stick it out with the dreams of earning £300+ a week when in reality they would be lucky to earn £100 if that.

Reply 27

kka25

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by M1011

I love how you start off trying to legitimise yourself by claiming to work for a different company (not red planet), yet by the final sentence you're saying 'we interview', 'we are a', 'we do not have'... So you do work for Red Planet?

I can see why a genius like you ended up at a door to door sales company. Do you think people are so stupid that they won't see through the fact that the only people who talk positively about this shoddy company are those with a single post? You're a fake and you earn money by misleading young people in to working for you, you should feel ashamed of yourself.

Now kindly go crawl back under whatever rock you scrambled out from :angry:

Reply 28

chriseaton

all i need to say is ive been with this company now for 3 weeks and most of the products your not even selling most of them are free and yes it is door to door but dont let that put you off in my 3 weeks one was training and the last 2 ive earned over £600 by doing easy work just putting this out there of what its like

Reply 29

Politics Student

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by chriseaton

all i need to say is ive been with this company now for 3 weeks and most of the products your not even selling most of them are free and yes it is door to door but dont let that put you off in my 3 weeks one was training and the last 2 ive earned over £600 by doing easy work just putting this out there of what its like

One post and straight onto Red Planet Marketing which you apparently make a load of money working for.

Why do you feel the need to lie to people? We know what your business practices are.

If the amount of money you claim to be earning was the norm then the job would pay min wage rather than set you up as 'self employed' and therefore, bypass the min wage laws.

To anyone else reading this thread: Companies are not your friends, they do not have your interests at heart they only care about profit. So when you see these job adverts looking for graduates that are 'self employed' for commission based work the job promising promotion and high earnings is really just exploiting you as cheap labour.

Reply 30

M1011

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by chriseaton

all i need to say is ive been with this company now for 3 weeks and most of the products your not even selling most of them are free and yes it is door to door but dont let that put you off in my 3 weeks one was training and the last 2 ive earned over £600 by doing easy work just putting this out there of what its like

I don't know which I find more shocking; the lies or the grammar.

1) You have 1 post, so you're clearly not legit.

2) You're clearly not a graduate as you can't write coherently (so called 'graduate' door to door sales jobs).

3) Even if this was true (which it isn't), £600 in two weeks isn't particularly much. Equates to a 15k annual salary, but with no job security, benefits or career potential. Not to mention you might get a Sky TV leaflet jabbed in your eye if you knock on the wrong door.

4) Free products? Do those come with free ring-dings?

Reply 31

mountie31

Hi there,

i have just finished working for one of Red Planets sister companies and I only did it for 1 day. This is my email that I sent my best mate after only doing one day after doing the training:-

Howwould you fancy knocking on the doors of 200 properties and having to go backto them if the person doesn't answer? How would you like only getting paid 20quid only if you find 1 for all of that effort if you are lucky? Add tothat blatant harassment of people for money essentially and having to work 6days a week from 10.30 am to 8.30pm?

Exactlythat's why this job only lasted for today. I quit before it got worse. I feelsorry for them still doing it they are Muppets. Talk about exploitation mate. Iwalked around south London doing this not on my own but with a trainer whowouldn't allow me to havea go then only to be told at 9pm that we had to go backto the office to do the paperwork! I refused and told them whereto stick it. I'm only now getting home at 10.15pm! I would have spent more ontravel as they don't pay your costs.

If this is your cup of tea then good luck to you but it wasnt for me and I have quit while I was ahead. One word - exploitation.

Mountie31

Reply 32

quaylad

I used to work for Red Planet Marketing. Its a load ****e quite frankly. I was just looking for work and they replied immediately, when I got to the initial interview all it was, was the manager telling me about how he made it to where he was and how it was so easy and that I could do the same just as easily. They are really minimal in the job description and just try and blind you with how much you can earn (sure maybe one guy somewhere in the business earned £1000 in a week, but in the main its about £200) The work is, get to the office at 11 (half 10 if youre a leader) which to do this all you have to do is get 6 people to sign up to a charity in 2 days. These meetings were bull****, just on about how to keep positive 'out in the field' Yeah like in the piss down rain in the dark when everyone else is at home, youre going to be positive. After this you would have a really cheesy meeting for everyone (non leaders so about 2 new people) where you cheer individuals for making 3 or 4 sales and how everyone should go and speak to them for advice when 9 times out of 10 its luck of the draw as to what houses you get. Then you would get to the field around about 1pm after in office 'pitch practise' where you go through how to swindle a customer into paying a direct debit to someone they've just met. You then get an individual territory consisting of 120-150 doors where you walk around until half 8 using methods such as sheep factor (mentioning neighbours names to ease others). It has nothing to do with what type of houses you get as to whether you can make sales according to managers, sure because terraced housing (no dis-respect) are just as likely to give up £10 a month as 3 floor detached homes... This would happen monday to saturday (saturday you can finish at 2 if you make 2 sales yay). However, even though you are self employed you have to give reasons as to why you don't work one day and even get told off for missing saturdays, this just goes to show its about making money not the 'employees'. Since I left the business about 3 months ago I randomly contacted someone who i worked with and about 95% of the people I worked with have quit.
Rant over. **** you Red Planet, **** you.

Reply 33

quaylad

Oh and break down of earnings
£8.50 a month sale to Unicef would earn you £18.50
£10 a month sale to Unicef would earn you £22.50
So for 8 hours walking around an area all day you need to make 3 £10 sales to earn a decent amount which is easier said than done, also you have to hope the customer doesn't change their mind when they get a one off phone call asking if they are happy to go ahead with it :smile:

Reply 34

kayok

I got an email as well back from Red Planet Marketing recently, I believe it was in response to an advert on a job search website. I vaguely remember apply for more information on the role, I think the initial advert mentioned finding lead generation. After researching about the company I decided against the interview, I also got a call a week later which was again very vague into what the job specified.

When I asked if it was field based I was told yes, I declined as that really isn't valuable for my CV. Im just adding to this as I feel misled, and I don't feel any reputable company should mislead people or get people's hope's up over an interview. Also in addition the process of job hunting is lengthy and costly. I think that this company really should access its practices and If you are lucky to research before you attend an interview I hope this helps you!

(edited 12 years ago)

Reply 35

Everdine123

Hey guys! I have an interview with this company(redmarketing limited) in a few days! Should I go or would the job be a scam? :frown:

Reply 36

future_banker

I USED TO WORK FOR RED PLANET.

It's not a scam, you don't have to buy any of their products, but DON'T TAKE IT.

They feed you this '6 stage development program' where, the more sales you make, the more you get promoted. The earlier stages are all about getting better at generating your owns sales and after that, the further stages are about building a team and developing them to make more sales. At the top stages, you take your team under you and open up your own company anywhere you want.

Catch is, you never will get further than stage 1 or 2 (self-sales) because those at the top rinsed out all the sales years ago. (The product was free loft/cavity wall insulation). By the time you start, most people would already have had their houses done.

Also, it is 100% commission, no wage/salary so you end up spending more than you earn because you have to travel all over the place. The hours are 10am - 8pm and you'll be carrying a ladder amongst your team and a drill, batteries etc. Also, they don't train you on using the drill and stuff, and I've seen a lot of people injured.

Plus, the higher-ups gossip a LOT and have their own agenda.

Left it ages ago and I haven't looked back. Try telesales or something. They tend to have a salary with a commission scheme on top. :smile:

Reply 37

Still Looking 26

For future applicants.

I went through the process to see what it was all about.
I applied for a Marketing & Sales assistant position.
The next day I got an email with an interview time & date.
On said date I went to their offices in Kentish Town.
Turns out they were 2 over people who had meetings at the same time with the same person: Claudia Robins
After filling out a form with basic personal information and answering a few questions a man called Chris showed us into a conference room.
First Claudia was said to be on lunch break then they said Chris would be handling the meeting.
It was a 30 minutes presentation of the company, he asked us what we did before and if we had experience in management.
There wasn't any time for questions as he said he had other presentations after.
We were invited to come back the next day to go in the field and shadow senior employees and see what the job was all about.

The job is:
- Going door to door, seeing if people need their walls insulated.
- You knock on doors all day long. 90 a day
- The job is entirely commission based. 60£/survey
- You need to be able to handle power tools.
- You work on saturdays
- You have to go through 5 stages. The person I met was at level 4 and had been working for the company for 8 months.

The thing is there is no Marketing & Sales assistant position. When you have gone through the 5 stages you move on to managing people but it's never a Marketing & Sales position per say.

So considering that they give a false advertisement of the job I would say it's a scam.

Reply 38

becki_L

It's all an absolute scam!! My friend sent this email to them (they were trading under a different name).

To Whomever It May Concern,

Having recently researched your company online, I have been inundated with accusations about the conduct of your business with regards to the sharing of information with unauthorised third-party companies and the methods you employ, as a company, to entice candidates to work for you on false pretenses.

I have second-hand experience of one person who applied for jobs online and was both surprised and elated to receive invitations for three job interviews on the same day. These interviews where all to be held on Dale Street, Liverpool, on the same day and just hours apart (rather conveniently). Said person had only applied to one of these jobs and was shocked to see other companies offering her an interview, even though she had never provided them with any of her details. My first question to you would be: do you engage in the illicit transfer of information with other companies or do you mask this as a network of affiliates?

All the e-mails the person-in-question received were practically identical, seemingly having been gleaned from the same template e-mail. This person, eager to impress, decided to learn about the companies online but was horrified to see numerous claims against them that would cast doubt over their ethical conduct. Given the evidence provided, the candidate decided to withdraw herself from the application process but, on the day of the scheduled interview, received another phone call from the number she had saved as "Red Planet Marketing". I'm sure you can imagine her surprise and dismay, then, that the person who had called her was claiming to be working on behalf of "Star Marketing". That person then received but another e-mail, from "Star Marketing", which addressed her under the wrong name.

There are various people on the internet claiming that these companies entice candidates to work for them with a scarcity of detail in the job description. For example, allow me to refer to information on the "Red Planet Marketing" website, since it would seem you are one and the same.

"We serve our clients by helping them deliver exciting marketing and sales campaigns for local London and national clients through the use of our unique marketing approach"

Apart from the fact that this sentence isn't very well-written (marketing mentioned twice and 'local London and national clients' suffering from a lack of punctuation), very little is offered about what the company actually offers. Let it be made clear that I am not declaring any interest at all in being an employee, but I would like to know more information on what you require your workers to do. There are innumerate claims on the internet of non-pay, 100% commission door-to-door work and trial periods, that are not made clear at the time of employment, which result in the candidates not being paid for the amount of time the trial period may run.

Other companies also appear under the telephone number which acts as both Red Planet Marketing and Star Marketing. Namely, Cobra and Code Marketing, SRJ Marketing Ltd and Encore Interactive Ltd.

I will give you the opportunity to explain the company's actions in regards to the above allegations but rest assured that if no response if received the information will be passed to a higher level as I find it disgusting that, given the scarcity of jobs at the moment, companies would like to take advantage of the rising unemployment (especially prevalent in the younger demographic).

Regards,

A Concerned On-looker.

Reply 39

becki_L

And this was their reply.......

Dear concerned onlooker,

There are three marketing companies that operate from the dale street address. We are all contracted to a larger organisation that supply our clients. Each LTD company here represents a different client for what is the equivalent of our 'head office'.

The role offered is a direct sales advisor that includes door to door, business to business and events and the pay is 100% commission based.

Our recruitment is very straightforward. An applicant replies to an advert, their CV is read and if they are short listed, they are invited for an initial interview. At no point what so ever are any candidate details shared between the companies, that I can absolutely assure you of as it would not be of any benefit to us as a business. If your friend has been contacted by more than one company, then they must have applied to more than one advert. Should you require further information, please provide the name and we can forward the individual applications.

I understand there is a lot of negative press to be found online, unfortunately, these comments are usually views of misinformed individuals.

If you are genuinely interested in expanding your knowledge of our industry, we'd be happy to explain further but refuse to engage in a war of words via email in a response to accusations with little substance.

Yours

All at 31-33 Dale Street

Sarah Woodhouse | Administrator

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