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How hard is a language at A-Level (i.e. French, Spanish, German) without having done it at GCSE?

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I just did Italian AS without having done it at GCSE and I found it absolutely fine, easier than German in fact when I had the GCSE of that! :lol: If you're prepared to learn large amounts of vocab in a comparatively small amount of time then you'll be fine, but tbh in a month or so you'll be up to GCSE standard anyway, or so I found.
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I just did Italian AS without having done it at GCSE and I found it absolutely fine, easier than German in fact when I had the GCSE of that! :lol: If you're prepared to learn large amounts of vocab in a comparatively small amount of time then you'll be fine, but tbh in a month or so you'll be up to GCSE standard anyway, or so I found.
Hey Etoile, I remembered you from my thread
I didn't know you were studying Italian
So youre saying, you picked it up in September without ever having studied Italian in your life? and you found the exams oK? :O
Could this possibly be because the Italian paper has easier questions? Fill me in :lol:
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Hey Etoile, I remembered you from my thread
I didn't know you were studying Italian
So youre saying, you picked it up in September without ever having studied Italian in your life? and you found the exams oK? :O
Could this possibly be because the Italian paper has easier questions? Fill me in :lol:
We do this all the time up in Scotland, it's a very common thing to do. Do a subject at Higher (AS Level) without doing it at Standard Grade (GCSE). I did it with Physics this year, a few friends did it with subjects like Business/Admin, and I know a few that did it with French. It just means that you have to do a little bit more work to learn the bits you missed or picking them up as you go along.
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Hey Etoile, I remembered you from my thread
I didn't know you were studying Italian
So youre saying, you picked it up in September without ever having studied Italian in your life? and you found the exams oK? :O
Could this possibly be because the Italian paper has easier questions? Fill me in :lol:
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Yep, I'm just that mad :lol: I think it might have been because of the exam board as well - Edexcel seems to do very easy AS languages exams (for the others, I'm with AQA, and while these are still reasonably easy, I didn't sit there for an hour and a half at the end of those two :lol:). I found I could get the gist of Italian texts pretty much straight away because of the similarity to French.
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have you got any other knowlegde of a european language (western (romantic))?

If yes, then it will be tough enough however you can adapt.

If not then I am affraid it will be too hard to begin the AS-level from scratch.

What you can do is teach yourself the grammer over summer and build up a reasonable vocabulary.

www.studyspanish.com
for spanish grammer

and

www.livemocha.com
for vocab

I suggest spanish radio and newspapers also once you get the slightest grip on the grammer

Also, check local colleges for summer spanish classes
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Nothing is impossible if you're prepared to practise
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Hello,

How hard is a language at A-Level (i.e. French, Spanish, German) without having done it at GCSE?

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depends how motivated you are to learn it, and then how much time you spend. Which language do you have in mind?
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We do this all the time up in Scotland, it's a very common thing to do. Do a subject at Higher (AS Level) without doing it at Standard Grade (GCSE). I did it with Physics this year, a few friends did it with subjects like Business/Admin, and I know a few that did it with French. It just means that you have to do a little bit more work to learn the bits you missed or picking them up as you go along.
Ahh yeah, I'd understand people do in subjects that aren't normally offered at Standard level, and also subject like physics, because I'm sure you would have studied some physics priorly but within a science standard grade qualification or something.. but French!? Wouldn't the poeple who do that be at a great disadvantage from the people who have been studting it since they started high school? But it's reasuring to see that it is a done thinggg

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Yep, I'm just that mad :lol: I think it might have been because of the exam board as well - Edexcel seems to do very easy AS languages exams (for the others, I'm with AQA, and while these are still reasonably easy, I didn't sit there for an hour and a half at the end of those two :lol:). I found I could get the gist of Italian texts pretty much straight away because of the similarity to French.
So if you look at a Edexcel past paper for German, you would find that a piece of cake too? no? Now an hour and a half to spare...that's mad! xD How are the Italian orals for Edexcel? Hmmm I want to learn German..and i'm hoping my knowledge of Dutch would indeed prove to be beneficial because of the similarity
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Depends if you know any of the basics or no, I don't think it would be possible without being taught any of it before, unless you spend your summer picking up the basics. I had a year between AS French and GCSE, that was hard enough.
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have you got any other knowlegde of a european language (western (romantic))?

If yes, then it will be tough enough however you can adapt.

If not then I am affraid it will be too hard to begin the AS-level from scratch.

What you can do is teach yourself the grammer over summer and build up a reasonable vocabulary.

www.studyspanish.com
for spanish grammer

and

www.livemocha.com
for vocab

I suggest spanish radio and newspapers also once you get the slightest grip on the grammer

Also, check local colleges for summer spanish classes
This is great advise! Do you have any suggestions for learning German?
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I do Spanish AS and for me, it would have been impossible without doing it at GCSE. This isn't because I learnt a lot at GCSE level, just because it did help with the basics, basics others will have in your class if you do it at AS without the GCSE requirement. Saying that, if you're willing to put a lot, and i mean a lot, of effort in, i'm sure you'll do well!
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So if you look at a Edexcel past paper for German, you would find that a piece of cake too? no? Now an hour and a half to spare...that's mad! xD How are the Italian orals for Edexcel? Hmmm I want to learn German..and i'm hoping my knowledge of Dutch would indeed prove to be beneficial because of the similarity
I'm doing an Italian A2 paper at the moment I just looked at the German one and it's ridiculously easy :lolwut: I was staring at this poster of Capri opposite me so long that it looked like the waves were moving haha. The orals are good because you get to choose your topic! We did youth culture and concern, so that limited it a lot more compared to AQA where you go through all the topics. I think it should, I can often get things in Dutch from German and I'm not native or anything
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Ahh yeah, I'd understand people do in subjects that aren't normally offered at Standard level, and also subject like physics, because I'm sure you would have studied some physics priorly but within a science standard grade qualification or something.. but French!? Wouldn't the poeple who do that be at a great disadvantage from the people who have been studting it since they started high school? But it's reasuring to see that it is a done thinggg
Nope, the only physics I'd done was as part of KS3 Science. And of course they're at a disadvantage, that's why they have to work harder, or learn faster!
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I'm doing an Italian A2 paper at the moment I just looked at the German one and it's ridiculously easy :lolwut: I was staring at this poster of Capri opposite me so long that it looked like the waves were moving haha. The orals are good because you get to choose your topic! We did youth culture and concern, so that limited it a lot more compared to AQA where you go through all the topics. I think it should, I can often get things in Dutch from German and I'm not native or anything
No sChitt!? I think you just have a special talent for languages or something..: cos that can't be normal :lol: Hmm depending on how challenging I'm going to find AS level German...I might decide to self teach it as an extra Do you find that for Italian your very dependant on a teacher for practising and stuff?
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Nope, the only physics I'd done was as part of KS3 Science. And of course they're at a disadvantage, that's why they have to work harder, or learn faster!
Do you have a success story of someone who took French at Higher by any chance?
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I don't think it's worth the effort, you would be so far behind the others in the class you would learn at a much slower pace and fall behind easily if you're not careful. I wouldn't recommend it.
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No sChitt!? I think you just have a special talent for languages or something..: cos that can't be normal :lol: Hmm depending on how challenging I'm going to find AS level German...I might decide to self teach it as an extra Do you find that for Italian your very dependant on a teacher for practising and stuff?
So they say... hopefully universities will agree with you Not that dependent no, becaue she's a bit rubbish, but I like reading newspapers and watching RAI news and videos on youtube to make up for/supplement it. I think with self teaching you'd struggle with speaking though, especially accent wise.
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Do you have a success story of someone who took French at Higher by any chance?
There was a guy in my class who took French without doing GCSE, and got a B. He was lazy. There are a few throughout the year this year that crashed French, they've done well all year, but we don't know exam results yet.
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This is great advise! Do you have any suggestions for learning German?
livemocha has all the major languages in it.

As for the grammer site just google around and you'll find a good one.

Then of course just switch spanish newspapers and radio/music with german ones

hope it works out
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