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I have just completed my BSc neuroscience degree at the University of Leeds and am set to graduate on the 11th July 2012. At the end of second year I finished on 60% (2.i) and in my january exams I achieved an average of 67%, therefore I am being predicted by my personal tutor a firm 2.i although I am hoping to scrape a 1st on the basis of my dissertation and final exams.
I applied for dentistry this year however I wasn't so focused and I failed to give it much thought consequently I failed to get accepted into (University of Liverpool undergraduate, University of liverpool graduate entry, UCLAN and Bristol). Having spoken to liverpool they have said that I don't meet the shortlisting criteria for the A-levels as I didn't do A-level chemistry. I achieved grades A,B,B in psychology, biology and business studies. In terms of GCSEs I achieved:

Double award GCSE Science (AA)
German GCSE (B)
Drama GCSE (A*)
Art and Design GCSE (A)
English literature GCSE (A)
English GCSE (B)
History GCSE (A)
Mathematic GCSE (A)

However I'm finding it rather unfair that just because I lacked any direction when I was 18 that I should be disadvantaged for application, especially when I want to apply through graduate entry. I have emailed many of the universities and sent them my transcripts, module handbooks and grades achieved just to prove the level of chemistry that was studied in my neuroscience degree. The degree at the University of Leeds is interdisciplinary as we are integrated with the medical science students, pharmacologists, biochemists, microbiologists as well as the intercalating medics. Thus, do I really need to go back and do a chemistry A-level for me to be considered? I have just bought a few books in order to prepare me to sit the UKCAT test which I aim to sit and get good marks after I receive my degree classification in July 2012. Would applying for the Pre-dental 6 year courses be realistic and would I have a chance?
Most of my coursemates are either doing dentistry, medicine, pharmaceuticals, medical sales or graduate management schemes. Apart from dentistry I really don't see myself doing anything else. I have already shadowed a practitioner who is a registered specialist in endodontics and a dentist. I was fitness coach for the Leeds University FOBSOC rugby team and Leeds University Amateur Boxing team. I have spent three years working for Boots Alliance Pharmacy and have enjoyed the healthcare aspect. Furthermore, I am valuable member of the Leeds university marrow foundation, I set up clinics and sign people onto the bone marrow register via saliva sample. Sorry for this longwinded message but I would really appreciate some advise whether I am on the right track!
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Anshul
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Yes, a bit long! Here's a short reply:

Peninsula don't look at A-levels...

Also, why don't you go talk to someone in the dentistry dept in Leeds?
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If you don't have Chemistry to A-level standard then you're just not getting in; it's an absolute requirement for Dentistry.

You should self-study A-level Chemistry and take the exams.
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If you don't have Chemistry to A-level standard then you're just not getting in; it's an absolute requirement for Dentistry.

You should self-study A-level Chemistry and take the exams.
This.

King's want a pass in both Alevel Chemistry and Biology even if it's grades EE.

You need to either self-study Alevel Chemistry or apply to those that don't require it.
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6 year courses are for those with non-science backgrounds ... you've just done a neuroscience degree, so most likely would not be accepted.
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Hello everyone,
I have just completed my BSc neuroscience degree at the University of Leeds and am set to graduate on the 11th July 2012. At the end of second year I finished on 60% (2.i) and in my january exams I achieved an average of 67%, therefore I am being predicted by my personal tutor a firm 2.i although I am hoping to scrape a 1st on the basis of my dissertation and final exams.
I applied for dentistry this year however I wasn't so focused and I failed to give it much thought consequently I failed to get accepted into (University of Liverpool undergraduate, University of liverpool graduate entry, UCLAN and Bristol). Having spoken to liverpool they have said that I don't meet the shortlisting criteria for the A-levels as I didn't do A-level chemistry. I achieved grades A,B,B in psychology, biology and business studies. In terms of GCSEs I achieved:

Double award GCSE Science (AA)
German GCSE (B)
Drama GCSE (A*)
Art and Design GCSE (A)
English literature GCSE (A)
English GCSE (B)
History GCSE (A)
Mathematic GCSE (A)

However I'm finding it rather unfair that just because I lacked any direction when I was 18 that I should be disadvantaged for application, especially when I want to apply through graduate entry. I have emailed many of the universities and sent them my transcripts, module handbooks and grades achieved just to prove the level of chemistry that was studied in my neuroscience degree. The degree at the University of Leeds is interdisciplinary as we are integrated with the medical science students, pharmacologists, biochemists, microbiologists as well as the intercalating medics. Thus, do I really need to go back and do a chemistry A-level for me to be considered? I have just bought a few books in order to prepare me to sit the UKCAT test which I aim to sit and get good marks after I receive my degree classification in July 2012. Would applying for the Pre-dental 6 year courses be realistic and would I have a chance?
Most of my coursemates are either doing dentistry, medicine, pharmaceuticals, medical sales or graduate management schemes. Apart from dentistry I really don't see myself doing anything else. I have already shadowed a practitioner who is a registered specialist in endodontics and a dentist. I was fitness coach for the Leeds University FOBSOC rugby team and Leeds University Amateur Boxing team. I have spent three years working for Boots Alliance Pharmacy and have enjoyed the healthcare aspect. Furthermore, I am valuable member of the Leeds university marrow foundation, I set up clinics and sign people onto the bone marrow register via saliva sample. Sorry for this longwinded message but I would really appreciate some advise whether I am on the right track!
Thank you
Anshul
Hey, I graduated from Medical Science at Leeds last year, and a friend of mine in the year above was in the same situation as you. He's a med applicant and was rejected from everywhere because he didn't do A Level chemistry. So he took a gap year, went to college and did both AS and A2 in a year. He also worked as a HCA and did voluntary work and stuff which strengthened his application and he's in now.

So^^ there's my advice. Do A Level chem, but use the next year wisely; get some more work exp (continual if possible as uni's love that), do some voluntary work and go for it.

Also, best of luck with your results. A tip for you; although the official results release date is the first week of July, you may be able to see your results and classification about a week before on the Leeds for Life site. They released them early by accident all the time on there, although they may have caught onto it as our year were never able to keep quiet with it. And knowing how badly organised the admin team are there I wouldn't be surprised if they're still putting them on there.
But have a look anyways
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Hey, I graduated from Medical Science at Leeds last year, and a friend of mine in the year above was in the same situation as you. He's a med applicant and was rejected from everywhere because he didn't do A Level chemistry. So he took a gap year, went to college and did both AS and A2 in a year. He also worked as a HCA and did voluntary work and stuff which strengthened his application and he's in now.

So^^ there's my advice. Do A Level chem, but use the next year wisely; get some more work exp (continual if possible as uni's love that), do some voluntary work and go for it.
How much work experience are they looking for??? I know Manchester is only looking for 2 weeks and do they expect students to do more than observing???
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How much work experience are they looking for??? I know Manchester is only looking for 2 weeks and do they expect students to do more than observing???
The usual requirement is 2 weeks NHS GDP, but it's always beneficial to have more, and in the different specialities.

Also, this person is going in for graduate entry which is far more competitive, so a minimum of 2 weeks work experience probably wouldn't suffice.
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Hello everyone,
I have just completed my BSc neuroscience degree at the University of Leeds and am set to graduate on the 11th July 2012. At the end of second year I finished on 60% (2.i) and in my january exams I achieved an average of 67%, therefore I am being predicted by my personal tutor a firm 2.i although I am hoping to scrape a 1st on the basis of my dissertation and final exams.
I applied for dentistry this year however I wasn't so focused and I failed to give it much thought consequently I failed to get accepted into (University of Liverpool undergraduate, University of liverpool graduate entry, UCLAN and Bristol). Having spoken to liverpool they have said that I don't meet the shortlisting criteria for the A-levels as I didn't do A-level chemistry. I achieved grades A,B,B in psychology, biology and business studies. In terms of GCSEs I achieved:

Double award GCSE Science (AA)
German GCSE (B)
Drama GCSE (A*)
Art and Design GCSE (A)
English literature GCSE (A)
English GCSE (B)
History GCSE (A)
Mathematic GCSE (A)

However I'm finding it rather unfair that just because I lacked any direction when I was 18 that I should be disadvantaged for application, especially when I want to apply through graduate entry. I have emailed many of the universities and sent them my transcripts, module handbooks and grades achieved just to prove the level of chemistry that was studied in my neuroscience degree. The degree at the University of Leeds is interdisciplinary as we are integrated with the medical science students, pharmacologists, biochemists, microbiologists as well as the intercalating medics. Thus, do I really need to go back and do a chemistry A-level for me to be considered? I have just bought a few books in order to prepare me to sit the UKCAT test which I aim to sit and get good marks after I receive my degree classification in July 2012. Would applying for the Pre-dental 6 year courses be realistic and would I have a chance?
Most of my coursemates are either doing dentistry, medicine, pharmaceuticals, medical sales or graduate management schemes. Apart from dentistry I really don't see myself doing anything else. I have already shadowed a practitioner who is a registered specialist in endodontics and a dentist. I was fitness coach for the Leeds University FOBSOC rugby team and Leeds University Amateur Boxing team. I have spent three years working for Boots Alliance Pharmacy and have enjoyed the healthcare aspect. Furthermore, I am valuable member of the Leeds university marrow foundation, I set up clinics and sign people onto the bone marrow register via saliva sample. Sorry for this longwinded message but I would really appreciate some advise whether I am on the right track!
Thank you
Anshul
I was in a similar situation to you.

Medical Microbiology at Leeds, graduated last year 4 rejections last year.

Used the year out to firstly get as much work experience as I could. NHS and Private practices and Dental Lab work experience.

I also focused on Voluntary work to show that I hadnt done nothing for a year.

I only got 625 on UKCAT but still got an interview at kings and Aberdeen with it, so dont panic too much.

Like others have said - apply to the dental schools that dont want any A-level requirements i.e. Pennisula and Aberdeen (i think)

I looked into retaking my Chemistry A-level as I only got a D but when I looked into it, it wasnt exactly cheap at my local college so I focused on my work exp and volunatry work.

I've now accepted an unconditional offer for aberdeen. If you need any help or advice feel free to PM with any questions etc

Good luck
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Hey, I graduated from Medical Science at Leeds last year, and a friend of mine in the year above was in the same situation as you. He's a med applicant and was rejected from everywhere because he didn't do A Level chemistry. So he took a gap year, went to college and did both AS and A2 in a year. He also worked as a HCA and did voluntary work and stuff which strengthened his application and he's in now.

So^^ there's my advice. Do A Level chem, but use the next year wisely; get some more work exp (continual if possible as uni's love that), do some voluntary work and go for it.

Also, best of luck with your results. A tip for you; although the official results release date is the first week of July, you may be able to see your results and classification about a week before on the Leeds for Life site. They released them early by accident all the time on there, although they may have caught onto it as our year were never able to keep quiet with it. And knowing how badly organised the admin team are there I wouldn't be surprised if they're still putting them on there.
But have a look anyways
Hey, thank you for your reply it's a great help, just wondering would I need to do both A level & AS level chemistry. Also if I start this september would an application before 15th October 2012 still be accepted for 2013 entry or would I first have to get my grades first and apply for 2014 entry? Also as I have just come out of university I have no clue as of how I would go about studying A-level chemistry would I just need to ring up the college and ask if they have spaces?

Thanks for your help
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I was in a similar situation to you.

Medical Microbiology at Leeds, graduated last year 4 rejections last year.

Used the year out to firstly get as much work experience as I could. NHS and Private practices and Dental Lab work experience.

I also focused on Voluntary work to show that I hadnt done nothing for a year.

I only got 625 on UKCAT but still got an interview at kings and Aberdeen with it, so dont panic too much.

Like others have said - apply to the dental schools that dont want any A-level requirements i.e. Pennisula and Aberdeen (i think)

I looked into retaking my Chemistry A-level as I only got a D but when I looked into it, it wasnt exactly cheap at my local college so I focused on my work exp and volunatry work.

I've now accepted an unconditional offer for aberdeen. If you need any help or advice feel free to PM with any questions etc

Good luck
Hey, just wondering did you tell aberdeen you were retaking your chemistry A-level and did they take into account what you achieved in your retake? Also did you get a 2.1 in your degree? And are your A-level grades, GCSEs grades similiar to mine or would my grades not be sufficient? I will be looking into taking A-level chemistry this year but I also want to work so that I will have money as well.


Thanks for you help!
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6 year courses are for those with non-science backgrounds ... you've just done a neuroscience degree, so most likely would not be accepted.
Wow that's a shame, you cannot win, you either have too little scientific knowledge or too much!!

Thanks anyway
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Hey, thank you for your reply it's a great help, just wondering would I need to do both A level & AS level chemistry. Also if I start this september would an application before 15th October 2012 still be accepted for 2013 entry or would I first have to get my grades first and apply for 2014 entry? Also as I have just come out of university I have no clue as of how I would go about studying A-level chemistry would I just need to ring up the college and ask if they have spaces?

Thanks for your help
Hmm I suppose it depends on how you want to go about it. You can either go back to college part- time and do chem, or do a distance learning course?

I think your best bet with the grades thing is to call the dental schools and ask; I imagine they'd b fine with you not having completed the A Level (as most school- leavers who apply haven't finished their A levels yet), but you would definitely need to discuss that with admissions and see what they say.
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Hello everyone,
I have just completed my BSc neuroscience degree at the University of Leeds and am set to graduate on the 11th July 2012. At the end of second year I finished on 60% (2.i) and in my january exams I achieved an average of 67%, therefore I am being predicted by my personal tutor a firm 2.i although I am hoping to scrape a 1st on the basis of my dissertation and final exams.
I applied for dentistry this year however I wasn't so focused and I failed to give it much thought consequently I failed to get accepted into (University of Liverpool undergraduate, University of liverpool graduate entry, UCLAN and Bristol). Having spoken to liverpool they have said that I don't meet the shortlisting criteria for the A-levels as I didn't do A-level chemistry. I achieved grades A,B,B in psychology, biology and business studies. In terms of GCSEs I achieved:

Double award GCSE Science (AA)
German GCSE (B)
Drama GCSE (A*)
Art and Design GCSE (A)
English literature GCSE (A)
English GCSE (B)
History GCSE (A)
Mathematic GCSE (A)

However I'm finding it rather unfair that just because I lacked any direction when I was 18 that I should be disadvantaged for application, especially when I want to apply through graduate entry. I have emailed many of the universities and sent them my transcripts, module handbooks and grades achieved just to prove the level of chemistry that was studied in my neuroscience degree. The degree at the University of Leeds is interdisciplinary as we are integrated with the medical science students, pharmacologists, biochemists, microbiologists as well as the intercalating medics. Thus, do I really need to go back and do a chemistry A-level for me to be considered? I have just bought a few books in order to prepare me to sit the UKCAT test which I aim to sit and get good marks after I receive my degree classification in July 2012. Would applying for the Pre-dental 6 year courses be realistic and would I have a chance?
Most of my coursemates are either doing dentistry, medicine, pharmaceuticals, medical sales or graduate management schemes. Apart from dentistry I really don't see myself doing anything else. I have already shadowed a practitioner who is a registered specialist in endodontics and a dentist. I was fitness coach for the Leeds University FOBSOC rugby team and Leeds University Amateur Boxing team. I have spent three years working for Boots Alliance Pharmacy and have enjoyed the healthcare aspect. Furthermore, I am valuable member of the Leeds university marrow foundation, I set up clinics and sign people onto the bone marrow register via saliva sample. Sorry for this longwinded message but I would really appreciate some advise whether I am on the right track!
Thank you
Anshul

Hi Anshul,

From the sound of the last post you seem very qualified to do dentistry. What specifically do you think is stopping you from being accepted?

Graduate dental student.
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6 year courses are for those with non-science backgrounds ... you've just done a neuroscience degree, so most likely would not be accepted.
this. you have to have done no science A level or further to do the extended course. your best bet would probably be to contact each uni directly and maybe consider undergrad entry courses or just do A level chem and apply again
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Hi Anshul,

From the sound of the last post you seem very qualified to do dentistry. What specifically do you think is stopping you from being accepted?

Graduate dental student.
Hi,
Thank you for you message, basically I have just received my degree classification of 2.i (average 68%). The main area which I believe I fall short in is the chemistry qualification required at A-level which I did not take. For graduate entry do you know if chemistry A-level is a prerequisite? I believe the chemistry content student in my B.Sc Neuroscience degree is at a far higher level than that studied at A-level. This has also been agreed by a few other universities upon sending them my transcripts. I have a few options. Either take a year out and continue my new marketing job which should allow me to earn enough to cover most of the costs for study at 9k (I am completely committed to study dentistry and despite being good at selling its not appealing for the long term). During the year out I can either apply for universities that don't look at A-levels through undergraduate entry (as I have A.B.B). I can apply for graduate entry although I think most require chemistry A-level. I have spoken to one university who as agreed that I will be considered for entry this september 2012 if I achieve a 2.1 (which I have) and do my UKCAT, which is now booked for 9th August 2012, so there is a possibility. In terms of grades I achieved 70% in my dissertation titled: 'can Yamanaka's protocol for the generation of induced pluripotent stem cells be optimised in order to treat Parkinson's disease.' This alone required fundamental knowledge in chemistry and biochemistry to have a background in how stem cells function. I am really hoping I can get onto the course as I've got the commitment, passion, (hopefully the grades) and work experience. As you seem to know a lot about graduate entry please could you give me some advice on whether I am on the right tracks this type of entry and which universities are most likely to accept an offer from me. Thanks for you message, I would really appreciate the feedback.

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Anshul
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Hi Anshul

I hope you got into one of those good graduate dentistry courses run by Liverpool, UCLan or Kings.

If you need any advice please contact me.
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I was in a similar situation to you.

Medical Microbiology at Leeds, graduated last year 4 rejections last year.

Used the year out to firstly get as much work experience as I could. NHS and Private practices and Dental Lab work experience.

I also focused on Voluntary work to show that I hadnt done nothing for a year.

I only got 625 on UKCAT but still got an interview at kings and Aberdeen with it, so dont panic too much.

Like others have said - apply to the dental schools that dont want any A-level requirements i.e. Pennisula and Aberdeen (i think)

I looked into retaking my Chemistry A-level as I only got a D but when I looked into it, it wasnt exactly cheap at my local college so I focused on my work exp and volunatry work.

I've now accepted an unconditional offer for aberdeen. If you need any help or advice feel free to PM with any questions etc

Good luck
hi! i know this is old but did you get the interviews the first time you applied or the second time?
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