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Hey guys! I really need to know if there is a way to get into architecture without having to go to univeristy! I may get in to kent university because of my grades, but just incase I dont...I need a backup plan.

Ive found many architect companies asking if they would take me on for apprenticeship...but sadly tgey rejected me! I will keep trying, but it I just want mores ways to get in. Im just so passionate about the subject, the only thing I want to do is architecture, architecture, architecture! Are there any college course for it? Or a firm that specialises in architecture training. Is there ANYONE out there that has found a way to get into architecture without university?

Really need your helpp!

Thanks in advance!
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What I've found:
http://www.ehow.com/how_6505971_beco...ct-degree.html
But I would suggest doing foundation at some uni if you don't get in, it should be easier after that. If that doesn't workout there are always other options. I would look at Europe for example you can study architecture in English at Architectural Institute in Prague
http://www.archip.eu/
And also Philip Johnson was self-taught architect maybe you should look closer at him to know how he got almost at the top.
Hope the best for you!
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What I've found:
http://www.ehow.com/how_6505971_beco...ct-degree.html
But I would suggest doing foundation at some uni if you don't get in, it should be easier after that. If that doesn't workout there are always other options. I would look at Europe for example you can study architecture in English at Architectural Institute in Prague
http://www.archip.eu/
And also Philip Johnson was self-taught architect maybe you should look closer at him to know how he got almost at the top.
Hope the best for you!

Ohh! thats such good information you've given me there I will defo take into consideration everything you've said!
Phillip Johnson! I might look for his biography, that would be a pretty interesting read.

Thank you so much! I really appreciate it
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You're welcome. I'm glad I could help. I have similar feelings on architecture, I don't really want to do anything else in my life, I want architecture to be my life.
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You're welcome. I'm glad I could help. I have similar feelings on architecture, I don't really want to do anything else in my life, I want architecture to be my life.
Omg agreed ! Exactly how I feel too. Are you going to university to study it?? If so, what uni ?

This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my HTC Desire HD A9191
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Omg agreed ! Exactly how I feel too. Are you going to university to study it?? If so, what uni ?

This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my HTC Desire HD A9191
Well, I'm 2013 entrant so I still have time to decide where to study. I think it's good thing that I've followed previous applicants, and started preparing my portfolio early.
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Just looked up Philip Johnson on wiki, did not know of him before this thread, an interesting read, lived a rather long life, died at 98 so not far off 100 so wow its quite a long life to live. Looks though that he only really got going proper in architecture after/during WWII at the Harvard Graduate School of Design (American Architect) and most of his stuff is post WWII. Originally he was a History & Philosophy student but became inspired by the Parthenon in Greece and architecture in general while visiting Europe. He then fell in with Mies van der Rohe, etc, took an interest in modernist architecture and got involved as an enthusiast of architecture up until WWII. Not until after a short stint in the US army did he leave to pursue an architecture education so he could fully design himself after WWII.

So, I guess while its possible to get involved in architecture without an education its by far an assured path to getting involved. I think you'll find you get knocked back by many firms as you've not got anything to really give them. Your basically handing them a cv with nothing that says you've done anything that can substantiate your interest in architecture so your cv is basically blank to them. Also, to train you up would take a long time, time they could spend on projects that could be making them money, many companies already complain that most Architecture grads they have to train almost from scratch and having been on an Architecture course I can see why.

I would look at Architecture Technology degree courses if I were you, many do not need a portfolio to get into, you'll learn more of what they do day to day in architecture practices increasing your value hence chance of getting a job in an architecture practice against many of those with straight Architecture degrees, also, the grades to get in are quite low. Other than that you could try to do a City & Guilds in Computer Aided Design (CAD) which is 2D drawing in AutoCAD which is a large part of the work done in an architecture practice, i.e drawing plans mostly, possibly sections, etc, that might get you in but is less likely perhaps than the Architecture Technology degree course. Honestly, few people ever get to the more interesting designs for buildings you see around and only some get to do the more mundane designs, most are just stuck on CAD for their entire career so its best not to look at it too much through rose tinted specs though I think we all tend to do that a bit in architecture.
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....not forgetting Philip Johnson was a bit of a nazi....

To the OP - it is going to be a very hard, thankless task. Historically you would have been apprenticed, but that doesn't happen today and for every potential vacancy you will find yourself up against Part 1s and Part 2s who are pretty much willing to work for free as they are stuck on the RIBA gravy train and are obliged to get UK experience and so will do whatever it takes to get that experience. So a firm has the option of taking on a Part 1 or Part 2 for pretty much free or paying you as an apprentice and having to invest time in teaching you from the outset, its fairly clear who they are going to choose.

Architectural Tech is, as has been stated, an option - however, in my experience it may cause you to suffer a bit of a glass ceiling for your career development. Technicians are undoubtedly very capable but I have noticed in the firms I have worked in that there is a tendency for partners to come to Part 1s / Part 2s to get them to work up designs, leaving the technicians to do the bathroom designs, etc. It may be different elsewhere, just what I've seen.

If I were you, go to Kent - its the quickest way you're going to have a chance of getting into this industry.
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...not forgetting Philip Johnson was also gay so I guess he was a gay nazi! lol, still he avoided ending up like Ernst Rohm...

Anyway, yeah would still be a bit cautious of the RIBA part 1 & 2 route since many are unemployed and cannot get a look in after their degree, partly as a result of the economy partly due to the number of excess architecture grads with good portfolio's knocking around. Architecture Tech is by no means a sure thing either as a fair few of them are unemployed also but at least its more direct on the CIAT route than RIBA. Once you done the three years you are qualified and can just gain industry experience or do a masters to attain the top qualification so you can set up yourself if you want (you will need a fair bit of dosh for this though).
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Just need to update some errors on here about architectural technicians/technologists.
An architectural technician (or even a technologist) is not fully qualified and the degree course generally takes 4 years not 3.
Once you have completed your course you then need to gain practical experience in the real work with an architectural practice.
Once you feel you have the relevant experience you can then apply to become a Chartered Architectural Technologist which involves submitting a record of your experience along with evidence including portfolio of your work.
If this is deemed by the CIAT as sufficient you are then invited to a professional interview which if you pass you will then be chartered (MCIAT) and able to practice in your own architectural practice.
Only MCIAT Chartered Architectural Technologists are fully qualified.
James Carrick MCIAT
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What a load of nonesense. You are confusing being qualified and being able to do a job with paying an organisation for being a member in their club. I have been running my own architectural consultancy for a number of years and have no aspirations to have those pointless letters after my name that some are so bothered about. I see no benefit in being chartered- I don't need it to get work so I see very little benefit.
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What a load of nonesense. You are confusing being qualified and being able to do a job with paying an organisation for being a member in their club. I have been running my own architectural consultancy for a number of years and have no aspirations to have those pointless letters after my name that some are so bothered about. I see no benefit in being chartered- I don't need it to get work so I see very little benefit.
You may not see this due to the length of time! But may I have the name of your business? I would like to message you privately and get some advice.

Regards
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