Men who go to see escorts
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Original post by Dirac Delta Function
I'm not saying it matters out of respect for her, it's more the thought of another guy's "residue". You don't find it a bit disgusting if you're with her and she was with someone else 3 hours beforehand? Dunno if I would trust a hooker to wash herself thoroughly before every encounter.
I doubt there will be any residue if the guy ejects his sperm into a condom and the heat and sweat gets washed off because the escorts shower after every encounter and i make them shower in my hotel suite before i touch them.
Yeh i don't like the idea of them being with multiple men beforehand but than what can i do? I need sex and i don't have anytime for a relationship, lifes too busy in UK.
Original post by Anonymous
Forget all that. If you avoided everything that was "socially unacceptable" then you wouldn't even be able to move.
I don't mean for me; if I wanted to use a hooker, I would, and I'd lie if it ever came up. I just think it would be good for the male gender as a whole for this to become more socially acceptable. God knows we pay for it in drinks and dinners on the pulling scene. Our wallets get screwed but we don't....
Original post by Dirac Delta Function
I don't mean for me; if I wanted to use a hooker, I would, and I'd lie if it ever came up. I just think it would be good for the male gender as a whole for this to become more socially acceptable. God knows we pay for it in drinks and dinners on the pulling scene. Our wallets get screwed but we don't....
I agree. Plus finding a girlfriend could be a long process of trial and error.
People talk about paying for sex as degrading and such, but what about getting rejected from countless women for the slightest little thing? Not to mention that if you do find a girl that's interested you have to endure another process of social gambits, pretending to be less interested than you are, sharing your life stories and your vulnerabilities and maybe after all that you'll get a sub-standard lay wherein she lays there like a rag doll.
Original post by Anonymous
People talk about paying for sex as degrading and such, but what about getting rejected from countless women for the slightest little thing? Not to mention that if you do find a girl that's interested you have to endure another process of social gambits, pretending to be less interested than you are, sharing your life stories and your vulnerabilities and maybe after all that you'll get a sub-standard lay wherein she lays there like a rag doll.
People talk about paying for sex as degrading and such, but what about getting rejected from countless women for the slightest little thing? Not to mention that if you do find a girl that's interested you have to endure another process of social gambits, pretending to be less interested than you are, sharing your life stories and your vulnerabilities and maybe after all that you'll get a sub-standard lay wherein she lays there like a rag doll.
Damn right. The whole thing can be very degrading for men, not to mention deflating. Every man wants sex, women control who gets it. It's entirely their game. At least this is an honest trade.
For anyone planning to use escorts in future, i would suggest to view the escorts profiles on the escort sites. The profiles will show whether they are physically compatible with you like weight/height etc etc.
Try and get them on 'Out call' rather than 'in call'. 'Out call' is where you get them to visit your house/hotel and 'in call' is you visiting their place. I have always used Out Call because i like to book my favourite hotels with nice big executive rooms where i am in control and order food/drinks from the hotel service. When the escorts see you that have put some effort into keeping things clean and elite they will be alot more happier to give you a good time.
Make sure you pay them first soon as they enter your room. Don't make them ask for the payment because you're busy talking about thingz and they suddenly ask you for payment which can spoil the mood.
Try and take them out for 3 hours atleast if not the whole night, personally i don't understand how someone can take them for one hour and get it over and done with.
They are their to sexually satisfy YOU, so don't worry about satisfying them too much. And they don't reallly care about your penis size because they have expertise in all sizes LOL.
And MOST importantly, DO NOT FALL IN LOVE WITH THEM. They are just their for the money so no amount of freindlyness, sexiness, lovelyness will melt them to become your GF/wife. And also don't get hooked onto an escort, spend your money wisely and do not go crazy because escorts cost alot. You can only turn this into a hobby if you are rich.
Try and get them on 'Out call' rather than 'in call'. 'Out call' is where you get them to visit your house/hotel and 'in call' is you visiting their place. I have always used Out Call because i like to book my favourite hotels with nice big executive rooms where i am in control and order food/drinks from the hotel service. When the escorts see you that have put some effort into keeping things clean and elite they will be alot more happier to give you a good time.
Make sure you pay them first soon as they enter your room. Don't make them ask for the payment because you're busy talking about thingz and they suddenly ask you for payment which can spoil the mood.
Try and take them out for 3 hours atleast if not the whole night, personally i don't understand how someone can take them for one hour and get it over and done with.
They are their to sexually satisfy YOU, so don't worry about satisfying them too much. And they don't reallly care about your penis size because they have expertise in all sizes LOL.
And MOST importantly, DO NOT FALL IN LOVE WITH THEM. They are just their for the money so no amount of freindlyness, sexiness, lovelyness will melt them to become your GF/wife. And also don't get hooked onto an escort, spend your money wisely and do not go crazy because escorts cost alot. You can only turn this into a hobby if you are rich.
I'm a lot like you OP and here's my two cents;
Don't do it if your mental state is in shambles and you just want to know what sex feels like. If you're someone that's been in a relationship before, you have a healthy self esteem and value yourself then go for it.
If you're doing it to lose your virginity or because you feel it's the only way to feel loved and get some female attention then it's a horrible idea and one tha will change your whole perception of women.
Don't do it if your mental state is in shambles and you just want to know what sex feels like. If you're someone that's been in a relationship before, you have a healthy self esteem and value yourself then go for it.
If you're doing it to lose your virginity or because you feel it's the only way to feel loved and get some female attention then it's a horrible idea and one tha will change your whole perception of women.
I think it's skeezy, slimey and immoral. It supports a gross trade that takes in psychologically vulnerable women and uses the only commodity they have left, their dignity and body for cold hard cash. I think it's thoroughly shameful the way the 'clientelle' have no regard for the way this odious profession links in with human trafficking and the child sex trade and the way it throughly highlights a total lack of respect for women.
Original post by j0hn
I think it's skeezy, slimey and immoral. It supports a gross trade that takes in psychologically vulnerable women and uses the only commodity they have left, their dignity and body for cold hard cash. I think it's thoroughly shameful the way the 'clientelle' have no regard for the way this odious profession links in with human trafficking and the child sex trade and the way it throughly highlights a total lack of respect for women.
Lol you're so naive it's unreal.
As if the women who do this are gonna care about all that moral crap when they're making £100s per hour.
Original post by Anonymous
Lol you're so naive it's unreal.
As if the women who do this are gonna care about all that moral crap when they're making £100s per hour.
As if the women who do this are gonna care about all that moral crap when they're making £100s per hour.
Yes, because moneys the only important factor in life isn't it? Do you think any of these women would be in this profession if they were psychologically stable? It just shows the way people like you completely lack any concept of the grey areas in life, and you call me naive?
Original post by j0hn
I think it's skeezy, slimey and immoral. It supports a gross trade that takes in psychologically vulnerable women and uses the only commodity they have left, their dignity and body for cold hard cash. I think it's thoroughly shameful the way the 'clientelle' have no regard for the way this odious profession links in with human trafficking and the child sex trade and the way it throughly highlights a total lack of respect for women.
You're right, but alcohol, tobacco and porn are no better. Hell, even the pop music industry can argued to be as immoral and harmful to young girls.
This is the reality, we live in an immoral world and make immoral trades.
Original post by Dirac Delta Function
You're right, but alcohol, tobacco and porn are no better. Hell, even the pop music industry can argued to be as immoral and harmful to young girls.
This is the reality, we live in an immoral world and make immoral trades.
This is the reality, we live in an immoral world and make immoral trades.
I'm not talking about the biblical values as such, I mean that hiring an escort is a direct and deliberate action which impacts heavily on lives. Many prostitutes go out to meet clients not knowing if they're going to come back dead or alive, they wouldn't choose that unless the option was available to them as desperate humans. By hiring an escourt you accept contributing to an disgusting trade and indeed strengthening it. The fact that the sex trade has been around for thousands of years doesn't mean we have to accept it or as individuals contribute to it. Sometimes we put behind us petty, shallow needs and think about what's important and that's the welfare of these damaged women.
Original post by j0hn
I'm not talking about the biblical values as such, I mean that hiring an escort is a direct and deliberate action which impacts heavily on lives. Many prostitutes go out to meet clients not knowing if they're going to come back dead or alive, they wouldn't choose that unless the option was available to them as desperate humans. By hiring an escourt you accept contributing to an disgusting trade and indeed strengthening it. The fact that the sex trade has been around for thousands of years doesn't mean we have to accept it or as individuals contribute to it. Sometimes we put behind us petty, shallow needs and think about what's important and that's the welfare of these damaged women.
I'm not talking about Biblical, Quranic, Vedic or any other scriptural notion of morality. I'm telling you, I think alcohol, tobacco and porn is of the same order of harmfulness as the sex industry. At least, if this becomes more socially acceptable, regulation and state support can be given to improve safety concerns and aid women who want to escape it.
Original post by Dirac Delta Function
I'm not talking about Biblical, Quranic, Vedic or any other scriptural notion of morality. I'm telling you, I think alcohol, tobacco and porn is of the same order of harmfulness as the sex industry. At least, if this becomes more socially acceptable, regulation and state support can be given to improve safety concerns and aid women who want to escape it.
Exactly that's the point though isn't it, the fact it's totally unregulated means that it's more harmful than the alcohol industry. Porn has very much the same people who are out prostituting themselves and it's completely unregulated in my opinion since the explosion of the Internet, whereas Tobbaco has clear help available, including an entire anti smoking industry that work to make it less harmful and clear Government steps in crushing the industry. Escorting though is totally unregulated making it more harmful because there's nobody making sure there are systems in place preventing gangs and organised crime from getting involved. The truth is that it's unlikely the Government will take a stand in regulating it, mostly out of fear of being seen to endorse it, so it's up to the individual to not contribute to it.
Original post by j0hn
I think it's skeezy, slimey and immoral. It supports a gross trade that takes in psychologically vulnerable women and uses the only commodity they have left, their dignity and body for cold hard cash. I think it's thoroughly shameful the way the 'clientelle' have no regard for the way this odious profession links in with human trafficking and the child sex trade and the way it throughly highlights a total lack of respect for women.
They are not 'psychologically vulnerable women' and they know very well what they are doing. The asian escorts mostly do it to support their poor families back home and the Brits/Eastern Euro escorts do it to live a good/luxury life because they don't want to get get ****y jobs in bars or ASDA when they can make £500 a night cash in hand with a bouncer/chauffer/BMW/MErc moving them around to their clients. And this job is flexible too, they work whenever they want.
What you fail to understand is that even hookers know their rights in UK and no one can force them. I would say statistically only 5-10% might be might be facing some kind of pressure to prostitute themselves and they are mostly asians.
Regarding 'lack of respect for women', maybe you should ask the hookers themselves why they like renting out their sexual organs. The men are merely just using the services because they are biologically designed to spread their seeds and no sexual activity for a long time can frustrate a man alot.
(edited 11 years ago)
Original post by Sharpshooter
A lot of men use escorts because they are afraid of being virgins in their late 20s/30s.
For example I'm 25 coming 26 and seriously embarresed about being a virgin to the point where I was literally suicidal at times because I felt I was going to be like this for the rest of my life.
Now the downside to this also is that if I remain a virgin till I was 30+ I would be a turnoff to the majority of women which is a disaster. The majority of women want experianced men, I understand that.
I'm a bit socially awkward at the moment but could improve by the time I'm 30, but by then it would be too late to get a girlfriend because I have no sexual experiance.
Do you see how viscous this cycle is for people like me who were socially awkward/shy (like REALLY shy) in their teens/early 20s. We are paying the price for that.
Now I don't want to use escorts, I REALLY don't and would love to avoid it, but I feel I may have to avoid the situation I've described above. I'm planning to have 5 attempts by the time I'm 30 and stop there.
Don't worry about not "living up" to expectations, I'm only doing to avoid looking weird by a certain age.
For example I'm 25 coming 26 and seriously embarresed about being a virgin to the point where I was literally suicidal at times because I felt I was going to be like this for the rest of my life.
Now the downside to this also is that if I remain a virgin till I was 30+ I would be a turnoff to the majority of women which is a disaster. The majority of women want experianced men, I understand that.
I'm a bit socially awkward at the moment but could improve by the time I'm 30, but by then it would be too late to get a girlfriend because I have no sexual experiance.
Do you see how viscous this cycle is for people like me who were socially awkward/shy (like REALLY shy) in their teens/early 20s. We are paying the price for that.
Now I don't want to use escorts, I REALLY don't and would love to avoid it, but I feel I may have to avoid the situation I've described above. I'm planning to have 5 attempts by the time I'm 30 and stop there.
Don't worry about not "living up" to expectations, I'm only doing to avoid looking weird by a certain age.
I know for a fact that a lot of girls will think that it's sweet rather than weird. I mean yes, the majority want more "experienced" guys, but if you're an amazing person they're not gonna care how much sexual experience you've had. And besides, learning can be fun! :P Some girls like having more control and leading a guy, so hey, you never know! But good luck anyways
Original post by j0hn
Yes, because moneys the only important factor in life isn't it? Do you think any of these women would be in this profession if they were psychologically stable? It just shows the way people like you completely lack any concept of the grey areas in life, and you call me naive?
You are naive because you think the women in this trade are there because they have no choice or are somehow being pressured into it. You are very much mistaken.
And while money might not be everything it's still the motivation behind alot of things.
Original post by noteraz
For anyone planning to use escorts in future, i would suggest to view the escorts profiles on the escort sites. The profiles will show whether they are physically compatible with you like weight/height etc etc.
Try and get them on 'Out call' rather than 'in call'. 'Out call' is where you get them to visit your house/hotel and 'in call' is you visiting their place. I have always used Out Call because i like to book my favourite hotels with nice big executive rooms where i am in control and order food/drinks from the hotel service. When the escorts see you that have put some effort into keeping things clean and elite they will be alot more happier to give you a good time.
Make sure you pay them first soon as they enter your room. Don't make them ask for the payment because you're busy talking about thingz and they suddenly ask you for payment which can spoil the mood.
Try and take them out for 3 hours atleast if not the whole night, personally i don't understand how someone can take them for one hour and get it over and done with.
They are their to sexually satisfy YOU, so don't worry about satisfying them too much. And they don't reallly care about your penis size because they have expertise in all sizes LOL.
And MOST importantly, DO NOT FALL IN LOVE WITH THEM. They are just their for the money so no amount of freindlyness, sexiness, lovelyness will melt them to become your GF/wife. And also don't get hooked onto an escort, spend your money wisely and do not go crazy because escorts cost alot. You can only turn this into a hobby if you are rich.
Try and get them on 'Out call' rather than 'in call'. 'Out call' is where you get them to visit your house/hotel and 'in call' is you visiting their place. I have always used Out Call because i like to book my favourite hotels with nice big executive rooms where i am in control and order food/drinks from the hotel service. When the escorts see you that have put some effort into keeping things clean and elite they will be alot more happier to give you a good time.
Make sure you pay them first soon as they enter your room. Don't make them ask for the payment because you're busy talking about thingz and they suddenly ask you for payment which can spoil the mood.
Try and take them out for 3 hours atleast if not the whole night, personally i don't understand how someone can take them for one hour and get it over and done with.
They are their to sexually satisfy YOU, so don't worry about satisfying them too much. And they don't reallly care about your penis size because they have expertise in all sizes LOL.
And MOST importantly, DO NOT FALL IN LOVE WITH THEM. They are just their for the money so no amount of freindlyness, sexiness, lovelyness will melt them to become your GF/wife. And also don't get hooked onto an escort, spend your money wisely and do not go crazy because escorts cost alot. You can only turn this into a hobby if you are rich.
This is useful advice, if you're rich.
Most TSR users couldn't afford a London hotel room for the night plus the cost of an escort for a few hours.
1 hour is a reasonable amount of time. Of course longer is better.
Original post by j0hn
Yes, because moneys the only important factor in life isn't it? Do you think any of these women would be in this profession if they were psychologically stable? It just shows the way people like you completely lack any concept of the grey areas in life, and you call me naive?
Do the women who run this website and accompanying forum sound psychologically unstable?
http://www.saafe.info/
Original post by barnetbuzzzz
Do the women who run this website and accompanying forum sound psychologically unstable?
http://www.saafe.info/
http://www.saafe.info/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/154140.stm
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?PHPSESSID=b377245b3442f04eb75e5f6bf2b1b13a&board=3.0
Actually yes. 1717 posts by women who've felt in such danger that they felt compelled to actually warn others about the dangers of their line of work. Let me just quote some of these posts, there's an entire forum dedicated to warning each other:
'The client totally flipped out and smacked me in the face'
'He put his hands around my throat, he had such a strong grip that he forced me down onto the bed'
'I got emails like: you'll end up with a rope around your neck'
'He became nasty and started screaming: '**** off you ****ing slag whore''
Just to put this into perspective, this was in a one month timeframe and you expect me to believe that this site is for level headed women who've made a rational choice to go into and then stay in such a profession? If anything it just reinforces my point. Even if you were correct in saying that women who aren't disturbed go into the trade, in the other article I posted 62% reported being raped, 73% said they had been assaulted and 68% said they had been threatened with a weapon, and you think that's not going to have a psychological impact on their well being?
This is the sick reality of the escourt world, it's not some idealised fantasy land where they go around reaping in money and living lives of intense luxury. It's a cruel, hard and unforgiving life that ruins every aspect of a humans basic identity and morality, so everytime you use a hooker you're voting that this is ok, because you're supporting the trade when you pay for it. Some of the posts in that forum are so hideous, that I cant even repeat them here and you think it's debatable if prostitution has any negative aspects?
(edited 11 years ago)
Original post by j0hn
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/154140.stm
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?PHPSESSID=b377245b3442f04eb75e5f6bf2b1b13a&board=3.0
Actually yes. 1717 posts by women who've felt in such danger that they felt compelled to actually warn others about the dangers of their line of work. Let me just quote some of these posts, there's an entire forum dedicated to warning each other:
'The client totally flipped out and smacked me in the face'
'He put his hands around my throat, he had such a strong grip that he forced me down onto the bed'
'I got emails like: you'll end up with a throat around your neck'
'He became nasty and started screaming: '**** off you ****ing slag whore''
Just to put this into perspective, this was in a one month timeframe and you expect me to believe that this site is for level headed women who've made a rational choice to go into and then stay in such a profession? If anything it just reinforces my point. Even if you were correct in saying that women who aren't disturbed go into the trade, in the other article I posted 62% reported being raped, 73% said they had been assaulted and 68% said they had been threatened with a weapon, and you think that's not going to have a psychological impact on their well being?
This is the sick reality of the escourt world, it's not some idealised fantasy land where they go around reaping in money and living lives of intense luxury. It's a cruel, hard and unforgiving life that ruins every aspect of a humans basic identity and morality, so everytime you use a hooker you're voting that this is ok, because you're supporting the trade when you pay for it. Some of the posts in that forum are so hideous, that I cant even repeat them here and you think it's debatable if prostitution has any negative aspects?
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?PHPSESSID=b377245b3442f04eb75e5f6bf2b1b13a&board=3.0
Actually yes. 1717 posts by women who've felt in such danger that they felt compelled to actually warn others about the dangers of their line of work. Let me just quote some of these posts, there's an entire forum dedicated to warning each other:
'The client totally flipped out and smacked me in the face'
'He put his hands around my throat, he had such a strong grip that he forced me down onto the bed'
'I got emails like: you'll end up with a throat around your neck'
'He became nasty and started screaming: '**** off you ****ing slag whore''
Just to put this into perspective, this was in a one month timeframe and you expect me to believe that this site is for level headed women who've made a rational choice to go into and then stay in such a profession? If anything it just reinforces my point. Even if you were correct in saying that women who aren't disturbed go into the trade, in the other article I posted 62% reported being raped, 73% said they had been assaulted and 68% said they had been threatened with a weapon, and you think that's not going to have a psychological impact on their well being?
This is the sick reality of the escourt world, it's not some idealised fantasy land where they go around reaping in money and living lives of intense luxury. It's a cruel, hard and unforgiving life that ruins every aspect of a humans basic identity and morality, so everytime you use a hooker you're voting that this is ok, because you're supporting the trade when you pay for it. Some of the posts in that forum are so hideous, that I cant even repeat them here and you think it's debatable if prostitution has any negative aspects?
Again what you fail to understand is that the hookers in UK DO HAVE A CHOICE. No one forced them into this degrading trade. If they faced such hugle level of violence and abuse than why do they keep offering themselves for sexual services?
Women face abuse and violence when they are in proper relationhsips with their husbands and boyfreinds, does that mean they should stop having relationships?
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