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Reply 1
I never believed in leagues until I liked a girl that friends warned me about being out of my league (this was about 4 years ago). That was a painful experience, not because of "leagues" as such. It happened because we're such different people, we thought in different ways, did different stuff, had different priorties- basically it wouldn't have worked.

"Leagues" for me now, means different personalities. If a girl is out of my "league", for example, is stupidly good-looking, it is not because she's so hot, but because her priority is her looks, which is not something I like. A girl can very easily be in my league and be good-looking as well, its just that it wouldn't be her main focus.

Am I making sense here?
Reply 2
Yes you are but surely if a girl is naturally good-looking yet her priorities aren't looking good and she's out of your league in that sense, but she's intelligent, shares similar interests etc she still won't go out with you?
Reply 3
lummox
Yes you are but surely if a girl is naturally good-looking yet her priorities aren't looking good and she's out of your league in that sense, but she's intelligent, shares similar interests etc she still won't go out with you?

If she's intelligent and has similar interests, I don't think that's out of my league. I'd go for it anyway. I'm really bad at judging how good-looking I am; bad previous experiences, but apparently a lot better now than when I was younger, which is meant to be dangerous (so I've been told!).
the guys i seem to date are "below" my league god that sounds awfull but its true i mean in most senses looks/brains/niceness. i still get messed around i dont think leagues mean much.
Reply 5
sjuthani
I never believed in leagues until I liked a girl that friends warned me about being out of my league (this was about 4 years ago). That was a painful experience, not because of "leagues" as such. It happened because we're such different people, we thought in different ways, did different stuff, had different priorties- basically it wouldn't have worked.

"Leagues" for me now, means different personalities. If a girl is out of my "league", for example, is stupidly good-looking, it is not because she's so hot, but because her priority is her looks, which is not something I like. A girl can very easily be in my league and be good-looking as well, its just that it wouldn't be her main focus.

Am I making sense here?


That's a sensible view, I'd agree with that. It's horrible to think that some are too 'good' to date certain other people - it's not true, it just means they're incompatible.
My mum told me this yesterday - that family and friends can know you better than you yourself do....maybe she's right, i sometimes feel lack of confidence regarding looks and personality, like everyone at some stage...i think it's very important to take on board what others think of you....hence putting someone out of your 'league', i don't agree with this at all, the girl in question will arguably we doing the same thing with you or others...i.e. i think i am quite a dull personality at times for example, but there was a party celebration recently, some moments were filmed and i came across as surprizingly eccentric, so like what my mum said - your own personal opinions and thoughts can be very cloudy and distorted.
I think what you find as you get older would surprise you.

If the hottest girl in the world; a 10/10, fancies a guy for any reason then she is achievable, even from a external view everyone will be going wtf is she doing with him... if she finds this man attractive then 'leagues' really don't come into it.

All you have to do is put 'leagues' out of your mind and if you are good looking and have an attractive personality then all you have to do is be yourself flirt and she will probably fall for your charm.

Believe me I know a certain girl takes my breath away, but she currently chewing the face off of a distinctly average person... why? - because she like s him apparently.

No one in the world is out of your league.
sjuthani
If she's intelligent and has similar interests, I don't think that's out of my league. I'd go for it anyway. I'm really bad at judging how good-looking I am; bad previous experiences, but apparently a lot better now than when I was younger, which is meant to be dangerous (so I've been told!).


Sorry, I don't get what you mean by "its meant to be dangerous"?
Leagues are a load of bull. Anyone who thinks they are too good for someone else simply because they are pretty/dress well etc is not worth dating.

Anyone can end up with anyone else - I know pairs where one is from a council estate and the other from a manor house. All that matters is the people inside, not what they look like.

However, I do think there are intellectual leagues. It is often very frustrating to date someone who is much better/worse than you intellectualy.
Reply 10
Anonymous
Sorry, I don't get what you mean by "its meant to be dangerous"?

Being a particular level of good-looking-ness, and not knowing it (either believing you're better than you actually are, or worse than you actually are), can lead to messy and painful results.
leagues dont exist. as long as your confident you can go for anyone you want. u might be incompatible sexually or personality-wise but that doesnt mean that one is somehow above the other.
sjuthani
Being a particular level of good-looking-ness, and not knowing it (either believing you're better than you actually are, or worse than you actually are), can lead to messy and painful results.


How? God, being knocked back a few times isn't the end of the world you know. It's all about being confident and happy with what you do.
Reply 13
lummox
What does everyone think about so-called 'leagues'? How do you tell if a girl is out of your league? I usually make the mistake of punching above my weight and making a fool of myself.

Maybe some of you don't believe in them?

Discuss :p:


I certainly think there are leagues (I posted this on the other thread- what happened to that?) and they probably contribute to the fact that I don't currently have a perfect male specimine for a boyfriend.

I'd advise still going for people who are out of your league though, you never know what might happen- it's not overly healthy to believe you're below someone, if they think you're below them then you'll find out soon enough and you can blame it on incompatibility instead of thinking of yourself as not worthy. Works for me.
Reply 14
I do not believe in leagues at all now, but I use to when I was younger about 14; I use to think I couldn't go out with the good looking lads who were dressed so smart and had a great personality because I thought I wasn't good enough...etc, but one sunny day, after one of my sats paper, I decided to talk to some of the lads who I thought were 'out of my league' and as I got to know them, I realised that everyone is the same.:smile:

So now I see everyone as equal and that all people are in the same league as me.:cool:

(Gosh, I still remember back in yr 7:p: ...must have a good long term memory, I wish I could just remember the things I've learnt in Biology last week:redface: )

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Firebird

I guess "leagues" are just a young person's way of referring to social classes.


what does social class have to do with dating???

puppy
I certainly think there are leagues (I posted this on the other thread- what happened to that?) and they probably contribute to the fact that I don't currently have a perfect male specimine for a boyfriend.

I'd advise still going for people who are out of your league though, you never know what might happen- it's not overly healthy to believe you're below someone, if they think you're below them then you'll find out soon enough and you can blame it on incompatibility instead of thinking of yourself as not worthy. Works for me.


being incompatible means exactly that. its nothing to do with making yourself feel better because someone is above you. no-one is above you, alls fair in love and war therefore everyone is fair game :wink: u dont have the perfect male specimin because A) he doesnt exist B) you arent confident enough to go get him.
Reply 16
high priestess fnord

u dont have the perfect male specimin because A) he doesnt exist B) you arent confident enough to go get him.


a) I meant a guy who was perfect as far as I was concerned (obviously)
b) I think I'll be the judge of that if you don't mind so you can refrain from passing comment on exactly why someone you've never met or spoken to can't get a guy.
Reply 17
high priestess fnord
what does social class have to do with dating???



being incompatible means exactly that. its nothing to do with making yourself feel better because someone is above you. no-one is above you, alls fair in love and war therefore everyone is fair game :wink: u dont have the perfect male specimin because A) he doesnt exist B) you arent confident enough to go get him.




So she doesn't have him because she's not confident enough to go and get what doesn't exist? Those Non Sequitur classes are really paying off.
Reply 18
an answer 2 the question:
well i think, the league thing, its all in your head, there's no such thing as being too good for someone, nor not enough...
if one believes in themselves then you ought to be that... if i make sense lol
then its all up to the other person to believe in you...

luv ya
Nicole
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