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    The Highlands rule! I'll give you a link to the 7:84 website if I remember. And I'm sure Edinburgh will love you

    BTW guys can be HugWhores too. Just add the line to your sig and hug people {hugs}
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    (Original post by LifeWired)
    :rolleyes: Sorry, I failed to read the strong counter-argument in that post...
    Apologies for the slow response - but I can't read and type at a speed of knots. In my opinion, the inclusion of certain leftist ideologies would be welcome in today's society - and would undoubtedly serve to improve it for everybody. This isn't the case for all of them, not by any means. Certain great thinkers like Croce are all too keen to point out the flaws in Marx's doctrine, of which there are many.

    I really wish I could get my hands on a copy of Historical Materialism and The Economics of Karl Marx, but for now I'm just making judgements based largely on selected writings (in this case, Karl Marx: Selected Writings in Sociology and Social Philosophy - the book on my lap ):

    "I do not think that there has been a study of what might be called Marx's forma mentis; with which Engels had something in common, partly owing to congeniality, partly owing to imitation or influence. Marx, as already has been remarked, had a kind of abhorrance for researches of purely scholastic interest. Eager for knowledge of things, (I say of concrete and individual things) he attached little weight to discussions of concepts and the forms of concepts; this sometimes degenerated into an exaggeration in his own concepts.Thus we find in him a curious opposition between statements which, interpreted strictly, are erroneous; and yet appear to us, and indeed are loaded, pregnant with truth. Marx was addicted, in short, to a kind of concrete logic. Is it best then, to interpret his expressions literally, running the risk of giving them meaning different from what they bore in the writer's innermost thoughts? Or is it best to interpret them broadly, running the opposite risk of giving them a meaning, theoretically perhaps more acceptable, but logically less true?"

    What do you see that is so great concerning the largescale implementation of Marx's ideas in modern day British society?
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    I'm sorry, my eyes are glazing over.
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    (Original post by Acaila)
    The Highlands rule! I'll give you a link to the 7:84 website if I remember. And I'm sure Edinburgh will love you

    BTW guys can be HugWhores too. Just add the line to your sig and hug people {hugs}
    I'm sure Edinburgh will... :rolleyes:!
    Consider your sig line addition considered (it seems to display good comraderie at the cost of my machismo... ), bye...
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    But the girls will all love you
    Byesie!
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    (Original post by mobbdeeprob)
    What do you see that is so great concerning the largescale implementation of Marx's ideas in modern day British society?
    I keep on getting left hanging on to this forum...!

    Clearly lacking the academic wealth that you display in this field (sociologist?) perhaps you would win any argument over the pros and cons of Marxist theology. Nevertheless I did not allude to the fact that Karl Marx's writings were to be followed by the text book. Clearly there's a lot of social engineering involved there which would probably not succeed on our society's framework without a revolution! I believe in some left wing ideals but I'm not here to argue over the pros and cons of real life implementation of said sociologists writings.

    And thanks for taking the time to write a very good argument against my political bias, I can't deny the positive benefits of many capitalist values, though I never argued that.
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    (Original post by LifeWired)
    I keep on getting left hanging on to this forum...!

    Clearly lacking the academic wealth that you display in this field (sociologist?) perhaps you would win any argument over the pros and cons of Marxist theology. Nevertheless I did not allude to the fact that Karl Marx's writings were to be followed by the text book. Clearly there's a lot of social engineering involved there which would probably not succeed on our society's framework without a revolution! I believe in some left wing ideals but I'm not here to argue over the pros and cons of real life implementation of said sociologists writings.

    And thanks for taking the time to write a very good argument against my political bias, I can't deny the positive benefits of many capitalist values, though I never argued that.
    I'm a schoolboy who (ever more frequently) pinches things from his dad's vast collection of political/sociological works. I'm convinced that Marxist ideologies have no place in modern Britain though.

    Why do you sport the hammer & sickle?
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    (Original post by mobbdeeprob)
    I'm a schoolboy who (ever more frequently) pinches things from his dad's vast collection of political/sociological works. I'm convinced that Marxist ideologies have no place in modern Britain though.

    Why do you sport the hammer & sickle?
    Because it looks cool...that, or a play too many games...

    And now that I've advertised my complete ignorance to politics and shown how I'm a slave to marketing I must bid farewell!

    (I jest really, there is no real reason for me to have that there, symbols bare little relevance really and can sometimes be negative, still, it makes the forum look more interesting?)

    Take care m8, I am not as politically motivated as it appears you are, and perhaps that means you have more value than I do
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    Marx's ideas are more ideological. and i must admit unsuitable for modern Britain.
    This is very similar to communism and other left-wing movements. They are great ideas but however they are nothin but feint dreams. Dont get me wrong when I say this as I am a fierce commmunist supporter but fear it does not work in a society fuelled by money.
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    (Original post by LifeWired)

    Take care m8, I am not as politically motivated as it appears you are, and perhaps that means you have more value than I do
    Cheers - you too!

    It's taken me 17 years to finally take wider reading (of proper works, not that fiction drivel) seriously.
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    (Original post by fishpaste)
    Cool, I'll add magic dude.
    Cheers, didn't see that. My computer is broken, so i'm relegated to using the laptop sporadically.
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    Just done the quiz.. again.. the first time I did it was a about 6 months ago- seems I'm turning even more towards anarchism in my old age.
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    just by chance, do you think thats a good thing???
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    (Original post by Fade Into Black)
    just by chance, do you think thats a good thing???
    lol..well I'd rather be at this end than the "authoritarian" end.

    and if your talking about the real meaning of anarchy then yeah, I do thing its a good thing in some respects. I take it you don't?
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    I do agree that anarchy is good. The 'authoritarian' is for the middle n upper classes fanatical with money.
    However I object to extreme anarchy.
    But non-extreme anarchy is gd.
    Without it... we'd all be brainwashed
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    lol.. I didn't realise there was such a thing as non-extreme anarchy!..unless you mean socialism. But I agree with your point
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    lol. Not socialism.
    I meant stuff like smashin up McDonalds instead of beatin up their staff.
    Human Consideration instead of materialism
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    Economic Left/Right: -3.50
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.36

    I'm about 2 points further left than last time - and this time I thought I'd answered it more to the right :confused:

    Truth is, I don't know much about politics and don't know where I stand, really. What does my result tell me?

    I changed one answer from disagree to agree, and it changed my result from -3.50 to -2.50, which is more like I was last time.

    I didn't understand the question properly:

    Charity is better than social security as a means of helping the genuinely disadvantaged.

    Does it mean it's a more successful way of doing it, or it's a more moral way of doing it?
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    i posted this back when the thread started but here it is again
    Economic Left/Right: 8.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.21
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    (Original post by Fade Into Black)
    Marx's ideas are more ideological. and i must admit unsuitable for modern Britain.
    .
    why? if Marx was alive he would probably find this society very favourable. minimum wage, worker's rights, unions etc.
 
 
 

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