Did not pass all units for btec exteded national diploma

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Yesterday was the final day to submit assignment and i found out i have only passed 14 units...however the course is made up with 18 units does this mean i have wasted 2 years and will come out with nothing? i got all passes and a merit and distinction. due to financial issues i was unable to attend college everday but i would like to do a hnd or foundation degree in september
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You need to pass all 18 units to get a qualification. However, I don't see how your tutors would have let you get to the final day and still owe assignments for 4 complete units without chasing you up. If they did chase you up and you didn't get the work in as asked, then I'm afraid that is your own fault and you will come out with nothing (although you may have already achieved a Certificate or Subsidiary Diploma if your college has claimed in stages). You will need to speak to your tutor for clarification.
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You need to pass all 18 units to get a qualification. However, I don't see how your tutors would have let you get to the final day and still owe assignments for 4 complete units without chasing you up. If they did chase you up and you didn't get the work in as asked, then I'm afraid that is your own fault and you will come out with nothing (although you may have already achieved a Certificate or Subsidiary Diploma if your college has claimed in stages). You will need to speak to your tutor for clarification.
this is what it says on the course content on the college website.
After successfully completing all 18 units of the course, you can progress onto Degree course. Completing 12 units would enable you to progress to Foundation Degree or HND course.

altogether there is 4 assignments i have not completed and they told me that.the problem is the way btec is graded i have done assignments for each unit but im missing a few pass criteria meaning i have an unclassified grade for 4 units.but according to this i should be ok as i have passed 14 units.
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it seems that if you pass less than 18 units you cannot be awarded the full qualification.but if you pass 12 you can be awarded the level 3 diploma which is 2 a level rather than 3.this is fine for me because this is enough for me to do a hnd next year.do i have to speak to my college first about this or will btec just change the qualification to the diploma instead?
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it seems that if you pass less than 18 units you cannot be awarded the full qualification.but if you pass 12 you can be awarded the level 3 diploma which is 2 a level rather than 3.this is fine for me because this is enough for me to do a hnd next year.do i have to speak to my college first about this or will btec just change the qualification to the diploma instead?
Did you pass all of the core units? You'll need to pass all 6 of those in order to get any qualification from it at all unfortunately.
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it seems that if you pass less than 18 units you cannot be awarded the full qualification.but if you pass 12 you can be awarded the level 3 diploma which is 2 a level rather than 3.this is fine for me because this is enough for me to do a hnd next year.do i have to speak to my college first about this or will btec just change the qualification to the diploma instead?
Edexcel (BTEC) won't change anything. It is up to the college to claim a certificate for whichever qual you have done. They may transfer you to a Diploma, but they may not. You do need to speak to your tutor and they will tell you exactly what you have achieved and what they will be claiming for.
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Edexcel (BTEC) won't change anything. It is up to the college to claim a certificate for whichever qual you have done. They may transfer you to a Diploma, but they may not. You do need to speak to your tutor and they will tell you exactly what you have achieved and what they will be claiming for.
i know what i have achieved.The college is closed now so i wont be able to speak to my old tutor until september i presume.This is what it says on the college website
After successfully completing all 18 units of the course, you can progress onto Degree course. Completing 12 units would enable you to progress to Foundation Degree or HND course.

i have completed 14 units i can only hope that they will award me the diploma certificate.:confused:
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Did you pass all of the core units? You'll need to pass all 6 of those in order to get any qualification from it at all unfortunately.
yes i have passed all the core units its only a few so called optional/specialist units i have an unclassified grade in.
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yes i have passed all the core units its only a few so called optional/specialist units i have an unclassified grade in.
Well it's a shame you won't get the qualification you were hoping for but it certainly won't be a waste of two years because you'll still get the 12 unit qualification. Some universities accept that on it's own for degrees I think and you just have to get high grades in it.
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The college will not be closed until September. Your tutor may be off, but the exams office staff should still be there. If I were you I would go in and ask them if the tutor has actually put in the claim form for the 12 Unit Diploma. Do no wait until September.
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The college will not be closed until September. Your tutor may be off, but the exams office staff should still be there. If I were you I would go in and ask them if the tutor has actually put in the claim form for the 12 Unit Diploma. Do no wait until September.
alright thanks i will find out when i go in.im hoping to go to uni so its very important that i get the 12 unit diploma rather than nothing so i can progress to a hnd.is there a chance my tutor wont claim anything?
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Well it's a shame you won't get the qualification you were hoping for but it certainly won't be a waste of two years because you'll still get the 12 unit qualification. Some universities accept that on it's own for degrees I think and you just have to get high grades in it.
oh thats alright then as im hoping to do hnd in september anyway so that will works out just fine if i get the 120 credit diploma
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oh thats alright then as im hoping to do hnd in september anyway so that will works out just fine if i get the 120 credit diploma
Well in theory you should as long as your lecturers aren't complete idiots. I'm not sure as to what the exact process is as the exam board might downgrade you to the 12 unit diploma as an automatic thing or your tutor might be required to sort of enter you for it instead of the 18 unit diploma. You could probably phone the exam board for that information.
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Well in theory you should as long as your lecturers aren't complete idiots. I'm not sure as to what the exact process is as the exam board might downgrade you to the 12 unit diploma as an automatic thing or your tutor might be required to sort of enter you for it instead of the 18 unit diploma. You could probably phone the exam board for that information.
i actually emailed edexcel and they responded with this
You would need to have completed ALL 18 units in order to get the qualification.
You would need to speak directly to the examinations officer at the centre / school they will be able to advise you on this.

so im yet to get a straight answer as to what the process is I hope its an automatic thing.no idea of who the examination officers are at my college either :confused:
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hey guys, I recently applied for a level 3 btec extended diploma course at southgate college, it has 12 units and I want to know how many ucas points I can earn when I finish the course, whats the highest amount??
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Yesterday was the final day to submit assignment and i found out i have only passed 14 units...however the course is made up with 18 units does this mean i have wasted 2 years and will come out with nothing? i got all passes and a merit and distinction. due to financial issues i was unable to attend college everday but i would like to do a hnd or foundation degree in september
For QCF BTECs (i.e. the current ones for teaching from Autumn 2010) you need to pass all the units to get the qualification. However, if you have not completed the Extended Diploma (3 A level sized one) you may well have fulfilled the requirements for a Diploma (2 A level sized one), or failing that the 90 credit diploma (1.5 A level sized one). It all depends on exactly which units you have taken and which ones are compulsory for which qualifications. Once you/your tutor/the exams officer has worked out what you could qualify for, it just requires a simple admin task for the exams officer to claim the lesser qualification. It then should come through in the post to the college within a couple of weeks.

You may be able to work out what you could get yourself by checking here
http://www.edexcel.com/quals/nationa...s/default.aspx
for the subject you've done and what units are required for each qualification.
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hey guys, I recently applied for a level 3 btec extended diploma course at southgate college, it has 12 units and I want to know how many ucas points I can earn when I finish the course, whats the highest amount??
If you are doing a Level 3 Extended Diploma then it is considered as being of the same size as 3 A levels. The most UCAS points you could get would be for D*D*D* which would get you 420.
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For QCF BTECs (i.e. the current ones for teaching from Autumn 2010) you need to pass all the units to get the qualification. However, if you have not completed the Extended Diploma (3 A level sized one) you may well have fulfilled the requirements for a Diploma (2 A level sized one), or failing that the 90 credit diploma (1.5 A level sized one). It all depends on exactly which units you have taken and which ones are compulsory for which qualifications. Once you/your tutor/the exams officer has worked out what you could qualify for, it just requires a simple admin task for the exams officer to claim the lesser qualification. It then should come through in the post to the college within a couple of weeks.

You may be able to work out what you could get yourself by checking here
http://www.edexcel.com/quals/nationa...s/default.aspx
for the subject you've done and what units are required for each qualification.
oh right,ok so i do not have to go in and enquire about this it will all be done automatically ?
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If you are doing a Level 3 Extended Diploma then it is considered as being of the same size as 3 A levels. The most UCAS points you could get would be for D*D*D* which would get you 420.
i hope so because I want to get into a good university and I dont want some low amount of points

I dont understand why the course has 12 units when its an extended diploma:confused:
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oh right,ok so i do not have to go in and enquire about this it will all be done automatically ?
As I have stated earlier, it is not always automatic. You need to go and see the exams office to see what your college policy is. If they automatically downgrade you and claim your certificate you will be ok for your HND. If they don't and have to get it changed the delay may cost you your place on the HND. Please go in as soon as possible and get it checked rather than just listening to advice from (well meaning, but not always qualified) people on-line.

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