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I just got a job at Wetherspoons and have my induction tomorrow and they said I need to dress smart or I will be turned away.

What should I wear im panicking.

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Original post by HistoryAddict
I just got a job at Wetherspoons and have my induction tomorrow and they said I need to dress smart or I will be turned away.

What should I wear im panicking.


I remember going to my induction in a shirt and trousers, and finding myself vastly overdressed (I'm a former employee)

Just go smart casual, but if you're worried that they will complain (they won't; Wetherspoons employ anyone with a pulse) then take a pair of the black trousers that you will need for work anyway, and wear it with a smart top / shirt that you already have.

Oh, and start thickening your skin for when you meet the customers.
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Original post by Origami Bullets
I remember going to my induction in a shirt and trousers, and finding myself vastly overdressed (I'm a former employee)

Just go smart casual, but if you're worried that they will complain (they won't; Wetherspoons employ anyone with a pulse) then take a pair of the black trousers that you will need for work anyway, and wear it with a smart top / shirt that you already have.

Oh, and start thickening your skin for when you meet the customers.


Thanks im always like this. Its only a crappy summer jobs for the cash!!!
Original post by HistoryAddict
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Thanks im always like this. Its only a crappy summer jobs for the cash!!!


Crappy it is :sadnod:

On the plus side, Wetherspoons will always take back former members of staff, unless they have been fired (and you have to do spectacularly dumb things (usually bordering on criminal) to get fired), so it's pretty much a guaranteed job for next summer too.

On the downside, they fingerprint their employees nowadays (I kid you not - it's for the clocking in / out system) and the pay has actually gone down by 50p ph for under 21s since I left almost two years ago. And the customers are grim - underage sixth formers galore, a select band of alcoholics for regulars, and a vast variety of customers who will spit on you, grope you and verbally abuse you.

Honestly, the one thing that kept me going was that I had decent colleagues.
Something smart.
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Original post by Origami Bullets
Crappy it is :sadnod:

On the plus side, Wetherspoons will always take back former members of staff, unless they have been fired (and you have to do spectacularly dumb things (usually bordering on criminal) to get fired), so it's pretty much a guaranteed job for next summer too.

On the downside, they fingerprint their employees nowadays (I kid you not - it's for the clocking in / out system) and the pay has actually gone down by 50p ph for under 21s since I left almost two years ago. And the customers are grim - underage sixth formers galore, a select band of alcoholics for regulars, and a vast variety of customers who will spit on you, grope you and verbally abuse you.

Honestly, the one thing that kept me going was that I had decent colleagues.


Well its £5.50 so thats not all that bad and im 21 next month so pay rise yey.
Thats good about been kept on though. Fingerprinting makes me feel wary though. The one I work at I hope wont be to bad I had a work trial on Saturday night amd one guy grabbed me and asked to dance and one guy said an awful work I never wish to repeat but all in all it was actually better than expected.
Original post by HistoryAddict
Well its £5.50 so thats not all that bad and im 21 next month so pay rise yey.
Thats good about been kept on though. Fingerprinting makes me feel wary though. The one I work at I hope wont be to bad I had a work trial on Saturday night amd one guy grabbed me and asked to dance and one guy said an awful work I never wish to repeat but all in all it was actually better than expected.


It's horrific! (The pay, that is)

Honestly if you've got any experience whatsoever (and even without...) you shouldn't be working for less than 21+ minimum wage. I've never felt the need to (back in my day we were all on slightly more than 21+ minimum wage), and I think any employer who pays less than that is guilty of age discrimination and exploitation.

Anyhow, you turn 21 in a month so it's probably going to work out better financially for you to keep that job, instead of faffing around looking for another and wasting time. Only you can decide if you feel comfortable with the fingerprinting bit - they will tell you that they're not storing your whole fingerprint blah blah but frankly I got the distinct feeling that they had no idea what they were on about, hand been given a presentation by the company who produces the machines, believed all of it and were utterly blase about security.

Sounds like you were on the receiving end of standard 'drunken idiot' behaviour! My favourite are the ones (usually when you're refusing them service because they're too drunk, but sometimes because they're underage and bolshy) who stand there and scream at you, believing that the nastier they are to you (personal remarks are my favourite), the more likely they are to get there own way! Only thing to do is to stand there, let them rant, laugh inwardly at how upset they are over something relatively minor, and then kick them out the pub for being abusive.
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Original post by Origami Bullets
It's horrific! (The pay, that is)

Honestly if you've got any experience whatsoever (and even without...) you shouldn't be working for less than 21+ minimum wage. I've never felt the need to (back in my day we were all on slightly more than 21+ minimum wage), and I think any employer who pays less than that is guilty of age discrimination and exploitation.

Anyhow, you turn 21 in a month so it's probably going to work out better financially for you to keep that job, instead of faffing around looking for another and wasting time. Only you can decide if you feel comfortable with the fingerprinting bit - they will tell you that they're not storing your whole fingerprint blah blah but frankly I got the distinct feeling that they had no idea what they were on about, hand been given a presentation by the company who produces the machines, believed all of it and were utterly blase about security.

Sounds like you were on the receiving end of standard 'drunken idiot' behaviour! My favourite are the ones (usually when you're refusing them service because they're too drunk, but sometimes because they're underage and bolshy) who stand there and scream at you, believing that the nastier they are to you (personal remarks are my favourite), the more likely they are to get there own way! Only thing to do is to stand there, let them rant, laugh inwardly at how upset they are over something relatively minor, and then kick them out the pub for being abusive.


I only get £5.25 at Next so its actually an improvement. Did you work at a Llyods?
Original post by HistoryAddict
I only get £5.25 at Next so its actually an improvement. Did you work at a Llyods?


Fair point.

Nah, I worked at a Spoons. The main difference is that Lloyds play music, but they often tend to open later and function as something that is a hybrid between a bar and a club, rather than just a pub, and as a consequence the customers are, on average, more drunk.
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Hey,

How did you find it as a summer job, there website seems to just suggest they are permanent?

Thanks :smile:
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Do they take people on who have no work history? :/
Original post by Summersun1
Hey,

How did you find it as a summer job, there website seems to just suggest they are permanent?

Thanks :smile:
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I applied and mentioned nothing about the fact that I was planning on going to university that September. Idiot interviewer didn't ask about it either. By the time someone asked, I had signed the contract and was already working there, so there was naff all they could do about it!

You can always transfer to another pub in your uni town, and go part time there during term time.

Original post by missrosielee
Do they take people on who have no work history? :/


Yes. When I joined I had done one agency hospitality shift, and I'd made a few sandwiches at my sports club during a competition. Of course, my CV was written to maximise this 'experience' ("agency jobs have included...." without mentioning that there was nothing else included, and "catering assistant at a major national sports competition" without mentioning that it's a very niche sport where the competitions tend to have only around ~50 competitors). I saw others taken on with no experience whatsoever.

The job centre sends people who have been on benefits for several months, and Spoons gives them a work trial. Some of them are utterly useless (others are quite good) but a good proportion of them (even the useless ones) get taken on.
Original post by HistoryAddict
I just got a job at Wetherspoons and have my induction tomorrow and they said I need to dress smart or I will be turned away.

What should I wear im panicking.


Original post by Origami Bullets
I remember going to my induction in a shirt and trousers, and finding myself vastly overdressed (I'm a former employee)

Just go smart casual, but if you're worried that they will complain (they won't; Wetherspoons employ anyone with a pulse) then take a pair of the black trousers that you will need for work anyway, and wear it with a smart top / shirt that you already have.

Oh, and start thickening your skin for when you meet the customers.


this. I went in a shirt & tie underneath a plain black jacket (not a blazer-type jacket, just a black one from Topman) as I too was told to dress smart. People turned up in trackies and jeans.. haha. Also some customers can be a bit difficult but just remember that you'll always be better off by not saying anything and more importantly, not getting into trouble :smile:

Original post by Origami Bullets
Crappy it is :sadnod:

On the plus side, Wetherspoons will always take back former members of staff, unless they have been fired (and you have to do spectacularly dumb things (usually bordering on criminal) to get fired), so it's pretty much a guaranteed job for next summer too.

On the downside, they fingerprint their employees nowadays (I kid you not - it's for the clocking in / out system) and the pay has actually gone down by 50p ph for under 21s since I left almost two years ago. And the customers are grim - underage sixth formers galore, a select band of alcoholics for regulars, and a vast variety of customers who will spit on you, grope you and verbally abuse you.

Honestly, the one thing that kept me going was that I had decent colleagues.


The clocking in-clocking out system, I find, is probably to get a more accurate calculation of what to pay you, since I think you get paid exactly to the minute for how long you work. Also, since I'm male I don't have to worry about anything thats described up there ^ I'm most at risk from the fellow female staff.. haha!

Also, OP, just out of interest - what position are you working as? Bar, floor, kitchen etc?
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Original post by Origami Bullets
I applied and mentioned nothing about the fact that I was planning on going to university that September. Idiot interviewer didn't ask about it either. By the time someone asked, I had signed the contract and was already working there, so there was naff all they could do about it!

You can always transfer to another pub in your uni town, and go part time there during term time.



Yes. When I joined I had done one agency hospitality shift, and I'd made a few sandwiches at my sports club during a competition. Of course, my CV was written to maximise this 'experience' ("agency jobs have included...." without mentioning that there was nothing else included, and "catering assistant at a major national sports competition" without mentioning that it's a very niche sport where the competitions tend to have only around ~50 competitors). I saw others taken on with no experience whatsoever.

The job centre sends people who have been on benefits for several months, and Spoons gives them a work trial. Some of them are utterly useless (others are quite good) but a good proportion of them (even the useless ones) get taken on.


I had a work trial which I thought went fairly well, but didn't ever hear back from them :frown:

Do you know how they feel about people reapplying?

Btw, I have experience, not in a bar but in a cafe and plenty of customer service experience.
Original post by Elissabeth
I had a work trial which I thought went fairly well, but didn't ever hear back from them :frown:

Do you know how they feel about people reapplying?

Btw, I have experience, not in a bar but in a cafe and plenty of customer service experience.


It probably would have been a good idea to phone up for feedback; in my experience they can be somewhat chaotic.

Recruitment decisions are taken at pub management level, so if you applied to another nearby pub then there would be no reason to even mention (unless it asks on the form) that you have previously applied.
Original post by Origami Bullets
It probably would have been a good idea to phone up for feedback; in my experience they can be somewhat chaotic.

Recruitment decisions are taken at pub management level, so if you applied to another nearby pub then there would be no reason to even mention (unless it asks on the form) that you have previously applied.


Oh okay, so you mean they may have taken me on just not been organised enough to do it?

Well, I was talking about the same pub, although several months later, so I guess they still may not remember.
Original post by Origami Bullets
Crappy it is :sadnod:

On the plus side, Wetherspoons will always take back former members of staff, unless they have been fired (and you have to do spectacularly dumb things (usually bordering on criminal) to get fired), so it's pretty much a guaranteed job for next summer too.

On the downside, they fingerprint their employees nowadays (I kid you not - it's for the clocking in / out system) and the pay has actually gone down by 50p ph for under 21s since I left almost two years ago. And the customers are grim - underage sixth formers galore, a select band of alcoholics for regulars, and a vast variety of customers who will spit on you, grope you and verbally abuse you.

Honestly, the one thing that kept me going was that I had decent colleagues.


Hasn't changed then!

I worked for them 10 years ago when I started my degree, Itwas the only job I have walked out of. Your description is so accurate!
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I agree with what's already been said. Smart black trousers and a shirt and you can't go wrong. It's better to be overdressed! I think they just don't want people turning up jeans and t-shirts. :smile:

Good luck!
Original post by Elissabeth
Oh okay, so you mean they may have taken me on just not been organised enough to do it?

Well, I was talking about the same pub, although several months later, so I guess they still may not remember.


Pretty much, yes. I got my job there because they got confused and rang the wrong person to invite them for interview. I also saw them trial two people with similar names (one good, one useless), get confused and then they took the useless one on, and didn't realise until the useless one turned up for his first shift.
Original post by Origami Bullets
Pretty much, yes. I got my job there because they got confused and rang the wrong person to invite them for interview. I also saw them trial two people with similar names (one good, one useless), get confused and then they took the useless one on, and didn't realise until the useless one turned up for his first shift.


Thanks.

In what ways were the 'useless people' useless? If you don't mind my asking?

I have seen a job in one really near me that I really, really want so do you think I should try and hand in a CV in person as well?

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