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Women contradict themselves.

I always hear women moaning about not having equal rights, yet if I give a particular situation, they complain that they are more 'special' and should be treated differently to men. (Note I'm talking about the average woman in the UK...)

An example of this is flowers. Yes, most women expect flowers, whether it be the man to apologise or to give just to be generous amongst other reasons. Yet, I haven't seen women ever give their men flowers for any reasons at all. The same goes for gifts, the man usually buys the wedding ring (assuming they get married) + most other items...

Also, a woman assums she can slap/punch a man round the face and expect not to be hit back. IMO, if you can dish it out then you can deal with the consequences.

What are everyones opinions on this? Am I talking crap? Or do you agree?

Reply 1

Yodling Zeek

Completely agree man! I'm all for equal rights, only way to do things. However it does get my back up when some women expect equal rights and treatment AND to selectively choose the things they like about how things were done in the past when men 'cared' for women like they were incapable to do so for themselves. Means us blokes get the sh*t end of the stick at times. :rolleyes:

I'm not saying that it should be either equal rights or preferential treatment, but it does irritate me quite a bit when women I meet expect to be treated like a 'lady' and then bang on about being my exact equal (not something I'm disputing before anyone jumps on me! I object to the bit about expecting to be given preferential treatment :p:

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Reply 2

Tarts_n_Vicars

13

I'm a girl and I agree with you :smile:

If a bloke lamps me I'll belt him back. :eek:

The flowers are symbolic though as opposed to being the actual issue. Where a bloke might buy a girl flowers, a girl might buy him his favourite magazine, chocs, beers etc (bit stereotypical but you know what I mean lol). Flowers are him doing a nice thing for the girl, girls do nice things back....just not usually with flowers!

Reply 3

yusufu

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Yodling Zeek

Completely agree man! I'm all for equal rights, only way to do things. However it does get my back up when some women expect equal rights and treatment AND to selectively choose the things they like about how things were done in the past when men 'cared' for women like they were incapable to do so for themselves. Means us blokes get the sh*t end of the stick at times. :rolleyes:

I'm not saying that it should be either equal rights or preferential treatment, but it does irritate me quite a bit when women I meet expect to be treated like a 'lady' and then bang on about being my exact equal (not something I'm disputing before anyone jumps on me! I object to the bit about expecting to be given preferential treatment :p:

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It should be either equal rights or preferential treatment. One or the other. Personally I'd rather they had preferential treatment.

Reply 4

slackerbeeatch

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Tarts_n_Vicars

Flowers are him doing a nice thing for the girl, girls do nice things back....just not usually with flowers!

Yeah i agree, i'm not sure any guy i know would be terribly impressed if he was presented with a beautiful bouquet. But yeah, most girls will try and get their man a present he would appreciate.

Sithius

the man usually buys the wedding ring

it's becoming more and more common for couples to share the cost of rings etc, but yeah, the majority of men do buy the ring. but is it not true then that the majority of women have to get their parents to pay for the wedding?? (but this is changing too)

I do think a lot of girls get it wrong and behave like Sithius described, but i don't think they're the majority - certainly not out of all the girls i know!

Reply 5

Lucky_8

8

I agree, but as people have already pointed out, flowers are just a gift, we might buy a guy something else.

Reply 6

pikaboo

13

I give my guy flowers. Well, put them out in the living room for his benefit, same thing :p:

Reply 7

~nat~

1

Tarts_n_Vicars

I'm a girl and I agree with you :smile:

If a bloke lamps me I'll belt him back. :eek:

The flowers are symbolic though as opposed to being the actual issue. Where a bloke might buy a girl flowers, a girl might buy him his favourite magazine, chocs, beers etc (bit stereotypical but you know what I mean lol). Flowers are him doing a nice thing for the girl, girls do nice things back....just not usually with flowers!

I agree too - I certainly think men and women should have equal rights. Nonetheless, such thing as flowers, opening doors, etc, is absolutely lovely when it happens - I'm not exactly going to have a go at a guy who for example opens a door accusing him of not considering that i can do such a thing myself :p:

Reply 8

Akhoza

Tarts_n_Vicars

I'm a girl and I agree with you :smile:

If a bloke lamps me I'll belt him back. :eek:

An average man would have no problem into lamping you out cold im afraid. Women can not physically take on men unless they start to looking like men :smile:

Crap

I definately agree with you... that's what feminism is about, people usually think of women fighting for equal rights when thinking of feminism, but feminism is about equal rights for both sexes.

Reply 11

bluedreamer

1

Agree with almost everything you said :yy:

I have a strong sense of justice. So always repay gifts...urrr with gifts :p:

Sithius

Also, a woman assums she can slap/punch a man round the face and expect not to be hit back. IMO, if you can dish it out then you can deal with the consequences.

Am I talking crap?

yes

I would never hit anyone, no matter what ( well, unless you really deserved it ie made me really angry ). But hitting women? that’s so wrong.

Reply 12

Paddington

1

yeah there is abit too much of this equal rights crap, did you know for women beat up by there husbands there are hundreds of shelters across the uk, for men however who are beat up by their wives there are no such refuges, women are favoured in custody battles, oh there are hundreds of injustices both sides of the fence, but thats what keeps us going, cos lets face it we are different and the same?!
and if i hit my bf, i give him every right to hit me back, because i never hit him!
and yes women do expect little somethings everynow and again, but i buy pressies for my bf as well! so it depends, you have to get the balance then it wont bother you

Reply 13

Sophie-star

If a guy buys me flowers it makes me want to vomit, though I do like being treated like a lady in other repects, e.g door being held for me etc. I agree that women do contradict themselves and it can be so hard for guy to know how to behave! However, I'm all for paying my own way, I mean we're students so why not? If I date an older guy who works though I don't find it so hard to let him cover dinner etc, whilst I get the post dinner drinks. I think that's fair.

Reply 14

Tarts_n_Vicars

13

One would hope he wasn't trying to knock me out cold thus I could gleefully thump him back (incidentally I've never been in that situation, but I would not hesitate to defend myself if a bloke hit me and if by some madness I hit first I'd fully expect him to hit me back...I'd hope he wouldn't tho lol).

Reply 15

L i b

19

Sithius

Also, a woman assums she can slap/punch a man round the face and expect not to be hit back. IMO, if you can dish it out then you can deal with the consequences.

While I wouldn't hit a woman as readily as I'd hit a man, I'd probably be more inclined to report it to the police just out of spite. Criminal records have amusing effects.

Reply 16

El Scotto

15

Sithius

I always hear women moaning

What are everyones opinions on this? Am I talking crap? Or do you agree?

My opinion is that I've noticed your mistake.

You're not actually 'Hearing' women moaning.

You're 'listening' to women moaning.

This is where you should work out how to make changes in your day to day life. Its fine to hear it, just dont listen. lol

Reply 17

RieLouise

1

Sithius

I always hear women moaning about not having equal rights, yet if I give a particular situation, they complain that they are more 'special' and should be treated differently to men. (Note I'm talking about the average woman in the UK...)

I'd imagine that most people 'contradict' themselves...at some point in their existence.

An example of this is flowers. Yes, most women expect flowers, whether it be the man to apologise or to give just to be generous amongst other reasons. Yet, I haven't seen women ever give their men flowers for any reasons at all. The same goes for gifts, the man usually buys the wedding ring (assuming they get married) + most other items...

I prefer trees myself.

Also, a woman assums she can slap/punch a man round the face and expect not to be hit back. IMO, if you can dish it out then you can deal with the consequences.

What are everyones opinions on this? Am I talking crap? Or do you agree?

'A woman'? Take this up with the woman in question. I tend to avoid people who use physical violence to resolve their interpersonal issues. I advise you to do the same.

Reply 18

RieLouise

1

Paddington

yeah there is abit too much of this equal rights crap, did you know for women beat up by there husbands there are hundreds of shelters across the uk, for men however who are beat up by their wives there are no such refuges, women are favoured in custody battles, oh there are hundreds of injustices both sides of the fence, but thats what keeps us going, cos lets face it we are different and the same?!
and if i hit my bf, i give him every right to hit me back, because i never hit him!
and yes women do expect little somethings everynow and again, but i buy pressies for my bf as well! so it depends, you have to get the balance then it wont bother you

Yeah, I agree - who needs the vote? Who needs education? Who needs to work?

Sojourner Truth, anyone?

Reply 19

Segat1

16

Sithius

I always hear women moaning about not having equal rights, yet if I give a particular situation, they complain that they are more 'special' and should be treated differently to men. (Note I'm talking about the average woman in the UK...)

An example of this is flowers. Yes, most women expect flowers, whether it be the man to apologise or to give just to be generous amongst other reasons. Yet, I haven't seen women ever give their men flowers for any reasons at all. The same goes for gifts, the man usually buys the wedding ring (assuming they get married) + most other items...

Also, a woman assums she can slap/punch a man round the face and expect not to be hit back. IMO, if you can dish it out then you can deal with the consequences.

What are everyones opinions on this? Am I talking crap? Or do you agree?

I gave my ex flowers all the time, and he loved it.

I buy gifts/treats/little pressies for my partner, because I can't help it. Its just cos I am a softy. In terms of slapping - if I have slapped a bloke it will be because he has done something so DIRE and AWFUL - but then I haven't slapped a bloke. It is a general rule that women should not be hit - whether this is fair or not or erhaps it is one of the last remaining vestiges of things called good manners (write it down kids!).

Women contradict themselves.

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