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Reply 380

although i'd also say... if you have serious reservations about the course after reading the lecture list etc., then listen to them. you can't really study modern literature or theory/criticism past your first year, for example... and you even have to choose between them then, usually. which i find annoying, but a lot of people don't.

but most of the topics you've listed can be done as part of the oxford course.

Reply 381

writerwho~
Hey! I appreciate this is an old thread but I wonder if you mind me asking - How did your interview at Regent's go? What sort of questions were you asked? And most of all, how did you do?!

I'm applying to Regent's for English this year (I know; shock horror it's a PPH!) and I was wondering if you could help me out about what to expect if I got an interview.

Thanks very much! :smile:


Just out of interest, why are you applying to Regent's? I don't know if it's changed since I applied two years ago, but you used to be able to put a PPH on the Oxford form as your second choice...

Reply 382

*pitseleh*
Just out of interest, why are you applying to Regent's? I don't know if it's changed since I applied two years ago, but you used to be able to put a PPH on the Oxford form as your second choice...


Yeah, to be honest I never knew about that option, but even if I had known I think I would still apply direct to Regent's. Basically, I really really liked the college when I went. It's small and friendly and kind of understated and hidden. I like the idea of it all being humanities-based and also that English is the second largest subject there. I'm quite interested in philosophy/theology and there's lots of opportunity to study those aspects of literature at Regent's. I don't think it'll affect my chances to apply there direct because of the pooling system... I'm putting my faith in the admissions offers really!

Reply 383

writerwho~
Yeah, to be honest I never knew about that option, but even if I had known I think I would still apply direct to Regent's. Basically, I really really liked the college when I went. It's small and friendly and kind of understated and hidden. I like the idea of it all being humanities-based and also that English is the second largest subject there. I'm quite interested in philosophy/theology and there's lots of opportunity to study those aspects of literature at Regent's. I don't think it'll affect my chances to apply there direct because of the pooling system... I'm putting my faith in the admissions offers really!


Fair enough! :smile: Those are pretty good reasons. I put down Regent's as my PPH choice, but I applied to Keble as my main college and ended up at Harris (which I'm very glad about!) I've had tutes at Regent's though, and it's lovely.

By-the-bye, I applied to all of the universities in your sig except Royal Holloway (and that was in my top 10) - my fifth choice was Warwick instead. Great minds... :biggrin: Which Durham college have you gone for?

Reply 384

*pitseleh*
Fair enough! :smile: Those are pretty good reasons. I put down Regent's as my PPH choice, but I applied to Keble as my main college and ended up at Harris (which I'm very glad about!) I've had tutes at Regent's though, and it's lovely.

By-the-bye, I applied to all of the universities in your sig except Royal Holloway (and that was in my top 10) - my fifth choice was Warwick instead. Great minds... :biggrin: Which Durham college have you gone for?


Aww how cool! Warwick was in MY top ten :smile: Royal Holloway is there as the only AAB offer though. I have applied to St. Chad's in Durham. When I visited I went to St. John's and University (to see the two ends of the spectrum!) and wasn't completely convinced by either to be honest. So I kind of went on a whim and put down St. Chads. I live in Somerset which means Durham is reeeeeeally far away, so even if I get an offer I may have to decline purely on the basis of travel costs and home sickness! Oxford is top, obviously, then Bristol. Just out of interest, what subject are you reading?

Reply 385

writerwho~
Aww how cool! Warwick was in MY top ten :smile: Royal Holloway is there as the only AAB offer though. I have applied to St. Chad's in Durham. When I visited I went to St. John's and University (to see the two ends of the spectrum!) and wasn't completely convinced by either to be honest. So I kind of went on a whim and put down St. Chads. I live in Somerset which means Durham is reeeeeeally far away, so even if I get an offer I may have to decline purely on the basis of travel costs and home sickness! Oxford is top, obviously, then Bristol. Just out of interest, what subject are you reading?


Haha, spooky! :yep:

Ahh, I applied post A-level, so I didn't have to worry so much about having insurance choices (though both Warwick and Bristol asked for AAB when I applied, as it went - they've obviously increased their entry requirements!) I applied to University College at Durham, purely on the basis that I wanted to live in a castle (haha), but really it was a bit far for my liking too (I'm from Cardiff).

I'm studying English as it goes, just to up the spookiness. :wink:
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Reply 386

*pitseleh*
Haha, spooky! :yep:

Ahh, I applied post A-level, so I didn't have to worry so much about having insurance choices (though both Warwick and Bristol asked for AAB when I applied, as it went - they've obviously increased their entry requirements!) I applied to University College at Durham, purely on the basis that I wanted to live in a castle (haha), but really it was a bit far for my liking too (I'm from Cardiff).

I'm studying English as it goes, just to up the spookiness. :wink:


Woah, I can't imagine a world where Bristol and Warwick ask for AAB! :eek: Now this IS getting spookily spooky. And we both know what happens now... I'm going to abandon all dignity and beg you for advice on how to prepare for the ELAT and interview! Also, any generalities you care to share about English at Oxford would be really good, if you don't mind :smile: Ta!

(And for the record, the prospect of living in a castle is what drew me to University College in the first place! :biggrin:)

Reply 387

writerwho~
Woah, I can't imagine a world where Bristol and Warwick ask for AAB! :eek: Now this IS getting spookily spooky. And we both know what happens now... I'm going to abandon all dignity and beg you for advice on how to prepare for the ELAT and interview! Also, any generalities you care to share about English at Oxford would be really good, if you don't mind :smile: Ta!

(And for the record, the prospect of living in a castle is what drew me to University College in the first place! :biggrin:)


warwick was aab when i applied last year, interesting (in a boring ucas application interesting kind of way) if it definitely has changed.

i can actually be useful and talk to you about the elat as well though - the best thing you can do is find past papers, although having said that i can't remember if they are published. there is definitely a practice one available on the internet somewhere... here it is http://www.admissionstests.cambridgeassessment.org.uk/adt/elat/Test+Preparation

i have a bad feeling that that might actually be the only one available. but never mind. do that a week or so before the test - if you did it now i think you'd be slightly less well-practiced come the actual exam. but really with the elat, there's only so much preparation you can do. it tests your close reading, not your knowledge of period, context, or theory so cramming that stuff doesn't really pay off. acquainting yourself with some literary parlance wouldn't go amiss though, particularly poetic stuff about meter and form and whatnot (dactyls and iambs and feet and caesuras blah blah blah).

as for interview (should you get one of course)... read the books you've said you've read! or at least read enough of them so that you can think of things to say and formulate arguments about all of them. read and re-read your submitted work (i was lax on this and it made me a whole lot more nervous when it was brought up in my final interview). and your personal statement as well. think about the subject philosophically - its value, what it actually is, how it differs from other subjects. but like the elat, there's only so much prep you can do. your interview can go in so so many different directions, you just have to be able to think on your feet.

ultimately though, just read and read and think about what you've read and then read some more. it would seem to be pretty good practice for starting a degree in english anywhere.

Reply 388

ITISCLARISSAHESAID
warwick was aab when i applied last year, interesting (in a boring ucas application interesting kind of way) if it definitely has changed.

i can actually be useful and talk to you about the elat as well though - the best thing you can do is find past papers, although having said that i can't remember if they are published. there is definitely a practice one available on the internet somewhere... here it is http://www.admissionstests.cambridgeassessment.org.uk/adt/elat/Test+Preparation

i have a bad feeling that that might actually be the only one available. but never mind. do that a week or so before the test - if you did it now i think you'd be slightly less well-practiced come the actual exam. but really with the elat, there's only so much preparation you can do. it tests your close reading, not your knowledge of period, context, or theory so cramming that stuff doesn't really pay off. acquainting yourself with some literary parlance wouldn't go amiss though, particularly poetic stuff about meter and form and whatnot (dactyls and iambs and feet and caesuras blah blah blah).

as for interview (should you get one of course)... read the books you've said you've read! or at least read enough of them so that you can think of things to say and formulate arguments about all of them. read and re-read your submitted work (i was lax on this and it made me a whole lot more nervous when it was brought up in my final interview). and your personal statement as well. think about the subject philosophically - its value, what it actually is, how it differs from other subjects. but like the elat, there's only so much prep you can do. your interview can go in so so many different directions, you just have to be able to think on your feet.

ultimately though, just read and read and think about what you've read and then read some more. it would seem to be pretty good practice for starting a degree in english anywhere.


Thanks that's brilliant :smile: I have found the practise ELAT papers (there are two available) and had a go at one so far. I have also roped in an English teacher at my college who is an Oxford graduate and is happily supplying me with lots of unseen poetry and prose to practise with.

I have definitely read all the texts that are in my personal statement, but I haven't actually written the work I am planning to submit yet, as they prefer it to be A2 content and we haven't written any of the right sort of essay as of yet. But I'll get there. Thanks for all your advice on the interview, of course it's all dependant on whether I actually get that far!

Reply 389

writerwho~
Woah, I can't imagine a world where Bristol and Warwick ask for AAB! :eek: Now this IS getting spookily spooky. And we both know what happens now... I'm going to abandon all dignity and beg you for advice on how to prepare for the ELAT and interview! Also, any generalities you care to share about English at Oxford would be really good, if you don't mind :smile: Ta!

(And for the record, the prospect of living in a castle is what drew me to University College in the first place! :biggrin:)


Hahaa, aww. :cute:

I took the ELAT the first year it was required (2007), and got 51/60 - I don't know how good that is by this year's standards..? I would say: of the extracts they give you in the exam, choose two passages to compare, not three. You're able to delve much more extensively into texts when you're not spreading yourself thinly. Also, if you run out of time but had some really good points left to make, jot them down in note-form - it's better for the examiners to have an idea of where you were heading, rather than assuming you've said all you had to say. As for preparation - get yourself used to looking at a handful of passages on a given theme, and comparing them. An easy way to do this would be to go onto poetry websites, and select a handful of poems on, say, the theme of 'trees' (poems on poetry websites are often grouped by theme). Think about all the differences you can see - the style, the tone, the syntax (or meter, if it's poetry), etc etc - and select a few of your more potent points to develop. Don't just rush off comment after comment - it's better to only remark on a few things, but scrutinise them carefully, than make shallow points on numerous things. Hope that helps. :smile:

As for the interview - make sure you know your texts well, and try to think a little bit about the context - when they were written, what reception they had, what impact they had on contemporary/future works. Don't be afraid if the interviewer seizes on something you've said and argues with it - you need to be (politely) tenacious with your viewpoints, whilst addressing the validity of your interviewer's objections (i.e. don't just allow your opinions to be subsumed by theirs - they want you to defend your thoughts!) Be prepared for interviewers to let you guide the interview - so have a think beforehand what you'd feel most confident discussing, if given the option. They might simply ask you questions, but you don't want to look like you have nothing to say if they do offer you the opportunity of picking a subject! Again, hope that helps. :smile:

Any more questions, feel free to fire away! :biggrin:

Reply 390

writerwho~
Thanks that's brilliant :smile: I have found the practise ELAT papers (there are two available) and had a go at one so far. I have also roped in an English teacher at my college who is an Oxford graduate and is happily supplying me with lots of unseen poetry and prose to practise with.

I have definitely read all the texts that are in my personal statement, but I haven't actually written the work I am planning to submit yet, as they prefer it to be A2 content and we haven't written any of the right sort of essay as of yet. But I'll get there. Thanks for all your advice on the interview, of course it's all dependant on whether I actually get that far!


ooh having read pitseleh's very very useful advice i would like to stress one more thing she said about the interview: "you need to be (politely) tenacious with your viewpoints, whilst addressing the validity of your interviewer's objections." very pertinent point! remember that if they disagree with you they aren't inherently right, and that if they are talking a lot you shouldn't simply let them argue over you if you disagree, even if you can't immediately think of evidence to support yourself, or your argument is a little bit muddled in your head. talking through your disagreement can help reveal the argument you want to make more clearly - the interview is supposed to mirror the tutorial format, in which refinement of argument seems to be a key component (i couldn't tell you first-hand seeing as i haven't started yet! but it's certainly been explained to me that way)

Reply 391

writerwho~
(there are two available)

Where is the other one.

Reply 392

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by *pitseleh*

Any more questions, feel free to fire away! :biggrin:


Okay. The ELAT is on Wednesday, and I am panicking juuuust a tad :s-smilie:

'What the hell are you doing on the computer then?!' you might say. Well. Having done six timed practises last week (ones put together to look just like the proper ELAT past papers from a wonderful teacher) and having just got back from an hour-long meeting about the ELAT (general stuff like how to write, with close analysis of the mark scheme), I am having some down time. Unfortunately, in my highly nervous state, 'down time' constitutes searching the net frantically for last minute tips and hints.

(..Which I know is useless, but try telling my brain that.)

Thing is, I do actually feel quite prepared. I am familiar with the format of the ELAT, with the process of close-reading and comparison and with the time limit. But, and it's a big butt (ha, geddit? *giddy nervous laughter*), I was wondering if you had any further advice about your experience with the ELAT, seeing as you have been so kind and helpful thus far?! Anything about what you did in the last few days before the test maybe?

I dunno. Any good nerve-calming exercises?! :frown:

Reply 393

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by writerwho~


I dunno. Any good nerve-calming exercises?! :frown:


This isn't directed at me, but you know, I think you should just try to forget about the ELAT now. You've done as much preparation as you possibly could. Don't try and do any more preparation...maybe just read some poetry and think about it, so you're in a vaguely literary frame of mind, but don't panic and try to do more essays.

Er, maybe even get off TSR? While it's a great resource, it can also make you more stressed out than you need to be, especially when you're reading about everyone else's preparation. Every time you log in here, you'll probably see another panicky post about the ELAT, and that will make you worry unnecessarily, and make you feel like you should be working.

Yeah, that would be my advice. Get off TSR, drink some tea, read some good poetry, and pretend that you don't have an exam to do. I think that would work for me.

Reply 394

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by writerwho~
Okay. The ELAT is on Wednesday, and I am panicking juuuust a tad :s-smilie:

'What the hell are you doing on the computer then?!' you might say. Well. Having done six timed practises last week (ones put together to look just like the proper ELAT past papers from a wonderful teacher) and having just got back from an hour-long meeting about the ELAT (general stuff like how to write, with close analysis of the mark scheme), I am having some down time. Unfortunately, in my highly nervous state, 'down time' constitutes searching the net frantically for last minute tips and hints.


Jesus christ, you have no need to worry with that much preparation! I've done the online practice test and got my mum to pick out some poems for me to practice my skillz on but that's it. If you're worrying then I should be ****ting myself!

Reply 395

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by bysshe
This isn't directed at me, but you know, I think you should just try to forget about the ELAT now. You've done as much preparation as you possibly could. Don't try and do any more preparation...maybe just read some poetry and think about it, so you're in a vaguely literary frame of mind, but don't panic and try to do more essays.

Er, maybe even get off TSR? While it's a great resource, it can also make you more stressed out than you need to be, especially when you're reading about everyone else's preparation. Every time you log in here, you'll probably see another panicky post about the ELAT, and that will make you worry unnecessarily, and make you feel like you should be working.

Yeah, that would be my advice. Get off TSR, drink some tea, read some good poetry, and pretend that you don't have an exam to do. I think that would work for me.


On the other hand, if I hadn't come to TSR, I would never have received your wonderful advice! Thanks for the loveliness :smile:

I'll see you on the other side...

Reply 396

i'm so scared of finals guys! i have all this stuff i need to read before finals but i have so much reading anyway and ahhh. also i've taken to visiting the balfour library in the pitt rivers and staring at all their books on magic. just for fun.

so, finalists. what are you doing for paper 8?

Reply 397

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by tigrrmilk
i'm so scared of finals guys! i have all this stuff i need to read before finals but i have so much reading anyway and ahhh. also i've taken to visiting the balfour library in the pitt rivers and staring at all their books on magic. just for fun.

so, finalists. what are you doing for paper 8?


Heh, awww. I'm doing a CTST (film option) - how's about you?

I'd be fine with the CTST (the workload's oddly light: six seminars, six screenings, one 2,500 word essay and then obviously the 6,000 word one) but I'm also editing the OxStu, so it's going to be a frantic term!

Reply 398

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by emily9588
I've heard so much about interviewing and its all been very helpful but could anyone actually give me an example of a question and response you gave at interview when applying for english and were successful? I'd love to just see the sort of response that would impress the interviewer.


When I was in Year 12, my school was asked to send 3 pupils studying AS English to an open day at Oxford, because nobody in my school has ever read literature at Oxford before. I went with two friends, and it was so much fun- definitely not the uni nor the right type of place for me (it just didn't work for me personally- I was a bit intimidated) but we got a lot of little 'taster' sessions to show us what studying and applying for English at Oxford is like, and it was very interesting.
One of these taster sessions included a mock-interview with a student in her second year, and they basically did some role-play to show us what we could expect in an interview. The girl was asked by the interviewers whether she'd like to discuss the texts she studied for AS/A2, so they basically had a bit of a chat about her English AS/A2 syllabus to sort of 'break the ice' and get some insight into her ideas etc. I think that's probably a very standard part of the Oxford interview. The girl was then asked to discuss the poem she was given before the 'interview'' (it's a poem you're highly unlikely to have seen before, and you study it for around 30 minutes-ish). That's all I can really remember, but I'm sure they didn't ask her any surprising questions, or questions that weren't related to English in any way. However, you'd have to talk to an actual Oxford English student to get some insight into the interview process because the one I saw was purely for demonstrative purposes, so they might have toned it down/exaggerated it a bit for us! But good luck anyway, I hope you get the answers you're looking for :smile:

Reply 399

P.S. Also just realised that the date of this thread was started 4 years ago- oops! Sorry! Although hopefully any prospective English students will see this thread and make some use of the advice given :smile:

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