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Reply 1780

Or at least some vague outline of what is on it. I'm not entirely sure of it's the same for all the colleges, but I am, for now at least, just assuming that it is.
My reason is this: I am very much regretting not applying for english, which I love, and have ended up doing the subject I felt I ought to do rather than the one I wanted to do; so, I thought I might try and change a little while into my first term. I thought perhaps I should try and get through some of the reading list, just in case.

Apparently it is mostly on Victorian literature in the first term? If it is, I've read huge amounts of it already, so I shouldn't be too daunted!

Thanks!


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Reply 1781

Oh, and, looking at this... which I'm not sure is relevant...

http://www.spc.ox.ac.uk/uploads/English%20-%20Paper%202%20Reading%20List.doc

from the 'paper 2' reading list, on medieval English literature, I've read the dream of the rood, the wanderer, the battle of Maldon, a bit of Caedmon, and all of Beowulf, in several different translations. I can also read old English- but I haven't done much lately, and tried this morning, but didn't get very far. I read all of the book of middle English a few years ago.
Does this mean I have, theoretically, covered much of that reading list?


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Reply 1782

Anyone? Bit awkward, I know. Sorry. :frown:


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Reply 1783

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by sasha.burik
1. Would anyone mind referring me to the reading list? Thank you!
2. What are some of the best colleges to apply to for an English major?


1. Depends on college.
2. Every college, as far as I know, does English so it's really down to personal preference.

Reply 1784

For anyone applying to Oxford for English Language and Literature I was wondering which texts you planned to take to interview that you mention in your personal statement? They say one needs to read 'outside of the school syllabus'. I'm mainly studying metaphysical Renaissance poetry, a couple of Shakespeare texts and two Romantic poets. Do you think this is too much or not varied enough? Which texts are you reading?

Reply 1785

Hahaaaa, when I was at college, my tutor that was advising me on my personal statement told me that I should write about how I used to read Harry Potter over and over and over when I was younger.
...Definitely don't do that :wink:

Reply 1786

I've almost solely talked about Victorian literature except mentioning one Shakespeare play. My form tutor told me just to write about whatever area of literature I was most passionate about.

Reply 1787

I was just wondering... If you mention some of your A2 texts in your PS is there any way a tutor would be able to tell that you haven't studied them independently rather than inside school, unless of course they ask you? It seems a silly question, but last year they didn't seem to differentiate with me which texts I studied outside the school syllabus. Was anyone asked SPECIFICALLY which texts they studied inside school and which they hadn't? There are so many different exam boards it seems impossible for them to definitively know (especially as the exam syllabus has changed this year for some boards!).

Reply 1788

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by Wellie
I was just wondering... If you mention some of your A2 texts in your PS is there any way a tutor would be able to tell that you haven't studied them independently rather than inside school, unless of course they ask you? It seems a silly question, but last year they didn't seem to differentiate with me which texts I studied outside the school syllabus. Was anyone asked SPECIFICALLY which texts they studied inside school and which they hadn't? There are so many different exam boards it seems impossible for them to definitively know (especially as the exam syllabus has changed this year for some boards!).


I was asked that what I was studying in college at the moment and reading outside.
(Rather embarrassing I had to say I had finished college eighteen months before).
You can use the word 'independently' or the like if you have read something at home, but that might be on someone's curriculum somewhere. For example, one of the more 'popular' authors on A-Level curriculum (I did combined so I asked this question to people who had done straight Literature).

Reply 1789

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by whimsicality
I was asked that what I was studying in college at the moment and reading outside.
(Rather embarrassing I had to say I had finished college eighteen months before).
You can use the word 'independently' or the like if you have read something at home, but that might be on someone's curriculum somewhere. For example, one of the more 'popular' authors on A-Level curriculum (I did combined so I asked this question to people who had done straight Literature).


I believe that this is an important point. On someone's exam board it is likely that your texts are prevalent. So how can they actually tell if you have studied them at school unless they ask you?

Reply 1790

If there's anyone out there in the world of TSR who could answer my question I would be very happy.

I'm writing my personal statement for English and I want to go to Oxford. I have a great interest in philosophy, particularly philosophy of language, and linguistics. If on my personal statement I mention books I've read by Locke, Derrida, Chomsky, Goethe, Kraus and so on, are they going to react like "well he has an interest not just in literature but also in the study of language which is good", or would it be more like "what's he going on about linguistics for!? We don't really care, tell us about novels and plays!".

These kind of things are always shady to me; you never can tell with these admissions tutors.


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Reply 1791

Also, does you choice of college you're applying to ACTUALLY make a difference to your chances if receiving an offer? They say officially "no it doesn't at all! Follow your heart little one! You'll be fine. :smile:" in their extra-friendly, noticeably down-to-earth promotion, such as an oxbridge seminar I went to at a higher education fair, but in an admissions report I got a different view.

It was Keble College I think that gave an admissions report that said students who applied to "over-subscribed" colleges got swapped around other colleges but perhaps lost out on places as others were being filled by one's who applied directly.

If I'm honest, if I'm ever going to get a place, it'll be by the skin of my teeth as I'm applying post-A Levels after illness and a confused AQA marking system made my AS Levels look terrible. Is it safer to apply to the lesser-subscribed colleges? Is there a difference in applying to somewhere like Christ Church as opposed to Mansfield? I really have no idea what college I want to go for. Christ Church sounds amazing but perhaps I should go for a less-prestigious one to be safe?


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Reply 1792

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by PatrickB
Also, does you choice of college you're applying to ACTUALLY make a difference to your chances if receiving an offer? They say officially "no it doesn't at all! Follow your heart little one! You'll be fine. :smile:" in their extra-friendly, noticeably down-to-earth promotion, such as an oxbridge seminar I went to at a higher education fair, but in an admissions report I got a different view.

It was Keble College I think that gave an admissions report that said students who applied to "over-subscribed" colleges got swapped around other colleges but perhaps lost out on places as others were being filled by one's who applied directly.

If I'm honest, if I'm ever going to get a place, it'll be by the skin of my teeth as I'm applying post-A Levels after illness and a confused AQA marking system made my AS Levels look terrible. Is it safer to apply to the lesser-subscribed colleges? Is there a difference in applying to somewhere like Christ Church as opposed to Mansfield? I really have no idea what college I want to go for. Christ Church sounds amazing but perhaps I should go for a less-prestigious one to be safe?


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I can answer some of these questions. First of all you need to hurry up, October 15th. You MUST talk about literature if you are applying to English at Oxford. I know that it says that it has a language component but it is mainly literature, mention maybe one book of philosophy/linguistics MAX.

As to the colleges, it REALLY doesn't matter. Christ Church is actually about mid-popularity in the last few admission processes; Magdalene, Balliol, Wadham and Worcester are the most applied to. It wouldn't even matter if you did apply to one of those, REALLOCATION should change that from before you even get to interview. My advice, focus on the literature of the ELAT and the interviews and forget 'the game'.

Reply 1793

Thank you very much! As I said though, I'm applying post-A Levels, so this year's deadline doesn't apply to me. But thanks for the feedback. :smile:


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Reply 1794

Original post
by Wellie
I can answer some of these questions. First of all you need to hurry up, October 15th. You MUST talk about literature if you are applying to English at Oxford. I know that it says that it has a language component but it is mainly literature, mention maybe one book of philosophy/linguistics MAX.

As to the colleges, it REALLY doesn't matter. Christ Church is actually about mid-popularity in the last few admission processes; Magdalene, Balliol, Wadham and Worcester are the most applied to. It wouldn't even matter if you did apply to one of those, REALLOCATION should change that from before you even get to interview. My advice, focus on the literature of the ELAT and the interviews and forget 'the game'.


I applied to Balliol for English this year just gone, but was reallocated to another college. If you're good enough they will move you around. Follow what you desire.

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by PatrickB
Also, does you choice of college you're applying to ACTUALLY make a difference to your chances if receiving an offer? They say officially "no it doesn't at all! Follow your heart little one! You'll be fine. :smile:" in their extra-friendly, noticeably down-to-earth promotion, such as an oxbridge seminar I went to at a higher education fair, but in an admissions report I got a different view.

It was Keble College I think that gave an admissions report that said students who applied to "over-subscribed" colleges got swapped around other colleges but perhaps lost out on places as others were being filled by one's who applied directly.

If I'm honest, if I'm ever going to get a place, it'll be by the skin of my teeth as I'm applying post-A Levels after illness and a confused AQA marking system made my AS Levels look terrible. Is it safer to apply to the lesser-subscribed colleges? Is there a difference in applying to somewhere like Christ Church as opposed to Mansfield? I really have no idea what college I want to go for. Christ Church sounds amazing but perhaps I should go for a less-prestigious one to be safe?


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Reply 1795

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by TotalLifeForever
I applied to Balliol for English this year just gone, but was reallocated to another college. If you're good enough they will move you around. Follow what you desire.


I can second this. :congrats:

Reply 1796

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by KingMessi
I can second this. :congrats:


KingMessi, what would your major tips for the ELAT be, I noticed that you did very well...?

Reply 1797

That's a good question!


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Reply 1798

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by Wellie
KingMessi, what would your major tips for the ELAT be, I noticed that you did very well...?


Work hard on your practical criticism and practice doing essays in the allotted time.

Reply 1799

If you get an interview and you are given a poem to look at and report back on, can you bring a dictionary and a pad and pen to use?


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