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To take matters in your own hands
A sudden idea just came to my mind recently … I’ve been trying to figure this out for months now… I dunno… I just wanted to RANT about this at some place … And it came to me: THE STUDENT ROOM
I’m going to divide WOMEN into two categories:
- Inexperienced (or less-experienced)
- Experienced
Then I’m going to divide MEN up into two categories:
- Mr. Nice Guy, who’s shy and down-to-the-earth, loyal and stable
- “Alpha-Males”, who bring fun and excitement to the picture, who keep you guessing, are unpredictable, and slightly towards the arrogant side
Then I’m also going to introduce that THERE’S A TECHNIQUE OF DOING EVERYTHING IN LIFE
I don’t believe in crap like “getting lucky one day to get a boyfriend/girlfriend”
Ok, onwards… Why is it that some guys get more girls than others?
From our birth, our MOMS have been teaching us to be the “perfect gentleman”. Be nice and polite and compliment people. And when it came to women, they said, “Be nice to women, buy them flowers and gifts, compliment them on their looks and treat them like they’re the best things that ever happened to you”. Come to think of it, if you call your mom into your room NOW and ask her about this, she’ll say “Oh well, that’s how your dad won me … He used to chase me with flowers and I used to play with him, run away from him, oh it was so cute, and then one day he just rang my doorbell and asked for my hand and gave me a ring” (of course this is not the case 100% of the time, but it’s a fairly accurate description)
Of course, there’s NOTHING WRONG with this view.
But my personal say is that Mr.Nice-Guy is only fit to be a HUSBAND.
Now I’m going to talk about inexperienced women against experienced women. (I don’t mean any negative connotations, nor am I trying to badmouth women).
Women were probably taught by their moms to find a guy who IS this “perfect gentleman”. Don’t go for a bad guy, they said. So when women reach their puberty stage and are just starting to sniff the world outside and looking for a guy, they look for a “cute, nice, polite” boy (some women reach this stage later in life … even when they are 18 years old, or even 25). The moment they see a jerk-type guy, they’re like “Eww…asshole…disgusting…cooties (whatever)”.
Then the rest of a woman’s love life depends upon the path she chooses (or more likely, the PATH THAT CHOOSES HER).
The more attractive a woman is, the more number of boyfriends she will get, the more experience she will get. If a woman is less attractive (again, no offence) or is attractive but programmed from birth to be a nerd or whatever, then she’ll be less experienced.
A woman with lesser experience will always tend to find Mr.Nice-Guy who will court her, buy her gifts and flowers, call her twenty times a week, and ask her questions like, “Do you think we could ever make a good couple?” A less-experienced woman will always tend to look for this type of guy, because her MOM taught her to do so…
But once she gets out of that shell, or when she suddenly realises that she can get any guy she wants and she basically has power over a lot of men, things change. All guys (or most guys) seem to her as AVERAGE. Remember the old “Average Joe”? lol…yeah… Women get more and more picky…
So as soon as another “average guy” shows up, she might get into a relationship with him… BUT, without feeling ANY attraction for him… she will start bitching more and more, demanding expensive gifts and dinners in big restaurants… she’ll start USING him, basically… Also, she will NOT have sex with him …
But the worst is still yet to come…
As soon as she notices a guy that is “above average”, she will INSTANTLY, and I mean INSTANTLY, disappear from the average guy’s side, probably faster than one can say, “I touch myself”
Now, what is an above-average guy? He’s not the guy that is 10 times “nicer” than the other average guys, he is not the one that “buys more gifts and flowers”, he is not the one that “compliments her 48 times a day” and “calls her twice as much every week”…
He is the none other than the ALPHA-male… Now…tell me one thing…WHY is there SUCH an uproar by the words “alpha-male”? What if I replaced those words by “Real Man” or “Strong Guy” or “James Bond”? Will there be lesser uproar? I think so…
Why do we characterise “alpha-males” as BAD and ARROGANT and READY TO BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THEIR GIRLFRIENDS? No…that’s NOT what I mean by ALPHA-male… an ALPHA-male, as I describe it, has some of these qualities:
- Strong in character (has his own opinion and his own life)
- Always takes lead (decides where to go on dates etc)
- Is always in control of himself, his surroundings
- Knows how to flirt
- Never complains or whines
- Never loses his temper (yes!!! Read that again!!!)
- Confident with women (or MAYBE a wee-bit arrogant)
- Good sense of humour
- Never accepts second class behaviour
- Knows how to say “no”
- Has clear goals in life
- … and about 50 other MASCULINE qualities
Now…wouldn’t YOU WOMEN out there want to be with a guy like THAT rather than a “pretend-to-be-nice-guy” who lets YOU take the lead, PAYS for you all the time, loads your bedroom with gifts and flowers every week, and says things like “Do you love me? Coz I sure do love you…”
Do you like MEN who take care of YOU?
Or BOYS who YOU need to TAKE CARE of?
Now, you guys can say "but I have some of these qualities, dude...so that should make women should like me"
BULLSH*T...
The only way to get more women is...
To Take Matters In Your Own Hands
You cant jus sit there hoping women will come to you...
I remember, I used to like this girl for two years...and I tried ALL KINDS of things... I did all kinds of "nice-guy" things... I even wrote her a poem... What did I get in return?
A cold shoulder...
And what else?
A life-threat from her Bubba-sized boyfriend saying that I should leave her alone...Now I said to myself, "this a**hole treats her like SH*T all the time, is never nice to her, I've never seen him buy her a gift, but WHY does she want to go out with him, instead of SUCH a nice, stable guy like me?"
After this girl left the school, I spent about TWO more years trying to figure this crap out...Of course, that was when I realised that there's nothing new under the sun...
As a wise man said, "You always get what you ask for"
Nice guys will get "nice girlfriends" who dont give them sex...
Alpha guys will get HOT ATTRACTIVE woman who cant keep their hands of their penises...
Another wise man said "A blind pig can find an occasional truffle"
A nice guy might have gone out with a HOT ATTRACTIVE woman, even had sex with her... but I guarantee you 95% of the time that the woman HAD cheated on him...
You see what the "nice guy" misses out on? He misses out on ATTRACTIVE women... Of course, there isn't a shortage of WOMEN in this world, but there IS a shortage of ATTRACTIVE women... they're in high demand...
That's all I have to say .... Peace...
I’m going to divide WOMEN into two categories:
- Inexperienced (or less-experienced)
- Experienced
Then I’m going to divide MEN up into two categories:
- Mr. Nice Guy, who’s shy and down-to-the-earth, loyal and stable
- “Alpha-Males”, who bring fun and excitement to the picture, who keep you guessing, are unpredictable, and slightly towards the arrogant side
Then I’m also going to introduce that THERE’S A TECHNIQUE OF DOING EVERYTHING IN LIFE
I don’t believe in crap like “getting lucky one day to get a boyfriend/girlfriend”
Ok, onwards… Why is it that some guys get more girls than others?
From our birth, our MOMS have been teaching us to be the “perfect gentleman”. Be nice and polite and compliment people. And when it came to women, they said, “Be nice to women, buy them flowers and gifts, compliment them on their looks and treat them like they’re the best things that ever happened to you”. Come to think of it, if you call your mom into your room NOW and ask her about this, she’ll say “Oh well, that’s how your dad won me … He used to chase me with flowers and I used to play with him, run away from him, oh it was so cute, and then one day he just rang my doorbell and asked for my hand and gave me a ring” (of course this is not the case 100% of the time, but it’s a fairly accurate description)
Of course, there’s NOTHING WRONG with this view.
But my personal say is that Mr.Nice-Guy is only fit to be a HUSBAND.
Now I’m going to talk about inexperienced women against experienced women. (I don’t mean any negative connotations, nor am I trying to badmouth women).
Women were probably taught by their moms to find a guy who IS this “perfect gentleman”. Don’t go for a bad guy, they said. So when women reach their puberty stage and are just starting to sniff the world outside and looking for a guy, they look for a “cute, nice, polite” boy (some women reach this stage later in life … even when they are 18 years old, or even 25). The moment they see a jerk-type guy, they’re like “Eww…asshole…disgusting…cooties (whatever)”.
Then the rest of a woman’s love life depends upon the path she chooses (or more likely, the PATH THAT CHOOSES HER).
The more attractive a woman is, the more number of boyfriends she will get, the more experience she will get. If a woman is less attractive (again, no offence) or is attractive but programmed from birth to be a nerd or whatever, then she’ll be less experienced.
A woman with lesser experience will always tend to find Mr.Nice-Guy who will court her, buy her gifts and flowers, call her twenty times a week, and ask her questions like, “Do you think we could ever make a good couple?” A less-experienced woman will always tend to look for this type of guy, because her MOM taught her to do so…
But once she gets out of that shell, or when she suddenly realises that she can get any guy she wants and she basically has power over a lot of men, things change. All guys (or most guys) seem to her as AVERAGE. Remember the old “Average Joe”? lol…yeah… Women get more and more picky…
So as soon as another “average guy” shows up, she might get into a relationship with him… BUT, without feeling ANY attraction for him… she will start bitching more and more, demanding expensive gifts and dinners in big restaurants… she’ll start USING him, basically… Also, she will NOT have sex with him …
But the worst is still yet to come…
As soon as she notices a guy that is “above average”, she will INSTANTLY, and I mean INSTANTLY, disappear from the average guy’s side, probably faster than one can say, “I touch myself”
Now, what is an above-average guy? He’s not the guy that is 10 times “nicer” than the other average guys, he is not the one that “buys more gifts and flowers”, he is not the one that “compliments her 48 times a day” and “calls her twice as much every week”…
He is the none other than the ALPHA-male… Now…tell me one thing…WHY is there SUCH an uproar by the words “alpha-male”? What if I replaced those words by “Real Man” or “Strong Guy” or “James Bond”? Will there be lesser uproar? I think so…
Why do we characterise “alpha-males” as BAD and ARROGANT and READY TO BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THEIR GIRLFRIENDS? No…that’s NOT what I mean by ALPHA-male… an ALPHA-male, as I describe it, has some of these qualities:
- Strong in character (has his own opinion and his own life)
- Always takes lead (decides where to go on dates etc)
- Is always in control of himself, his surroundings
- Knows how to flirt
- Never complains or whines
- Never loses his temper (yes!!! Read that again!!!)
- Confident with women (or MAYBE a wee-bit arrogant)
- Good sense of humour
- Never accepts second class behaviour
- Knows how to say “no”
- Has clear goals in life
- … and about 50 other MASCULINE qualities
Now…wouldn’t YOU WOMEN out there want to be with a guy like THAT rather than a “pretend-to-be-nice-guy” who lets YOU take the lead, PAYS for you all the time, loads your bedroom with gifts and flowers every week, and says things like “Do you love me? Coz I sure do love you…”
Do you like MEN who take care of YOU?
Or BOYS who YOU need to TAKE CARE of?
Now, you guys can say "but I have some of these qualities, dude...so that should make women should like me"
BULLSH*T...
The only way to get more women is...
To Take Matters In Your Own Hands
You cant jus sit there hoping women will come to you...
I remember, I used to like this girl for two years...and I tried ALL KINDS of things... I did all kinds of "nice-guy" things... I even wrote her a poem... What did I get in return?
A cold shoulder...
And what else?
A life-threat from her Bubba-sized boyfriend saying that I should leave her alone...Now I said to myself, "this a**hole treats her like SH*T all the time, is never nice to her, I've never seen him buy her a gift, but WHY does she want to go out with him, instead of SUCH a nice, stable guy like me?"
After this girl left the school, I spent about TWO more years trying to figure this crap out...Of course, that was when I realised that there's nothing new under the sun...
As a wise man said, "You always get what you ask for"
Nice guys will get "nice girlfriends" who dont give them sex...
Alpha guys will get HOT ATTRACTIVE woman who cant keep their hands of their penises...
Another wise man said "A blind pig can find an occasional truffle"
A nice guy might have gone out with a HOT ATTRACTIVE woman, even had sex with her... but I guarantee you 95% of the time that the woman HAD cheated on him...
You see what the "nice guy" misses out on? He misses out on ATTRACTIVE women... Of course, there isn't a shortage of WOMEN in this world, but there IS a shortage of ATTRACTIVE women... they're in high demand...
That's all I have to say .... Peace...
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WOO!!! According to that, I'm fit to be a husband 
And there is a fine balance between the "nice guy" and "alpha male" that you need to find. I'm a geniune nice guy, but I wouldn't be afraid to get in a fight if there was no other choice. I don't buy expensive gifts all the time, but small well thought out gifts every once in a while.
Oh, and what's so wrong about a nice guy getting a nice girlfriend and them having an honest, meaningful relationship that is not centered around sex?
Good rant though mate, but you need a bit of work on your arguement.
And there is a fine balance between the "nice guy" and "alpha male" that you need to find. I'm a geniune nice guy, but I wouldn't be afraid to get in a fight if there was no other choice. I don't buy expensive gifts all the time, but small well thought out gifts every once in a while.
Oh, and what's so wrong about a nice guy getting a nice girlfriend and them having an honest, meaningful relationship that is not centered around sex?
Good rant though mate, but you need a bit of work on your arguement.
Lib
I suggest that you quit stereotyping people, especially into such narrow bands as "two types of girls and two types of guys". People are different, as are their attitudes to marriage/relationships/sex/friendship etc.
And to echo Talon... Plenty of 'nice' girls enjoy sex. :P
And to echo Talon... Plenty of 'nice' girls enjoy sex. :P
I'm not talking complete crap here...there's some sense involved, even though you women will HATE to admit it...
and "experience and inexperienced women" is NOT a stereotype... and it's not a very narrrow band either... so peace
Well, isn't that a load of stereotypical BS. Really!
anjurdsg
I'm not talking complete crap here...there's some sense involved, even though you women will HATE to admit it...
and "experience and inexperienced women" is NOT a stereotype... and it's not a very narrrow band either... so peace
and "experience and inexperienced women" is NOT a stereotype... and it's not a very narrrow band either... so peace
How is it not a narrow band, saying that all girls are one or the other? Experience is relative. What one person considers experienced could be nothing compared to someone's else idea of it.
And of course women are going to get pissed off if you start saying that we're either ugly and nice and won't have sex, or hot and attractive and sleeping with everything in sight! It's not that black and white!
So...
*has a think*
Where do the less attractive women fit into this?
*has a think*
Where do the less attractive women fit into this?
Bitterness?!
anjurdsg
sorry that was just a rant... i know 80% people are against it, and i might get a couple of "bad reputations", but there's some hard truth in there that no one wants to bear...
isnt there anyone who agrees on my views?
isnt there anyone who agrees on my views?
I agree with some of the views, such as the thing about nice guys finish last sorta thing, and that the alpha males can be seen as jerks, but I don't agree with where you took it to. You should have stopped about halfway through.
Lib
you start saying that we're either ugly and nice and won't have sex, or hot and attractive and sleeping with everything in sight! It's not that black and white!
That's very true - if that's not stereotypical, rigid and plain untrue, I don't know what is.
anjurdsg
isnt there anyone who agrees on my views?
isnt there anyone who agrees on my views?
yes to a certain degree I do, but you really can't slim down to only two categories for each, can there be a normal people bit in the middle?
also one of your argumenty bits is a bit suspect, the girl you were chasing, y'know poems an stuff, that'd have worked on some girls but maybe she really liked this dumbass, i've got a mate who's really pretty but can't see that the guy she's dating is gonna go back to uni and screw her head again, she'll get over it a bit and then he'll come back and use her again, so I totally see where you're coming from but some people are blinded by love or lust or just generally thick
I'd say there are a couple of facts that could apply...
1. Confident 'alpha males' such as jocks always seem more attractive to a lot of girls as they have confidence to speak out, flirt, be themselves (however irritating they might be); and they're used to competition from sport, rivalries, etc.
2. 'Nice' nerdy guys are often too shy to talk to girls. I mean, girls, if a guy approcahes you blushing and monotonally stammers 'do you...ummm...wana go see a film?" u aren't likely to say "***** yeh!", are you?!
But at the end of the day, everyone's different. Some of your post works, some doesn't. Some people draw the line 'here', and others push it a bit further.
I sense you've got valid points, but are pretty jealous. I know people with your attitude, and they're still a tad on the 'single' side a few months on...
Be yourself, be confident, and charm your way into someone special's life...
1. Confident 'alpha males' such as jocks always seem more attractive to a lot of girls as they have confidence to speak out, flirt, be themselves (however irritating they might be); and they're used to competition from sport, rivalries, etc.
2. 'Nice' nerdy guys are often too shy to talk to girls. I mean, girls, if a guy approcahes you blushing and monotonally stammers 'do you...ummm...wana go see a film?" u aren't likely to say "***** yeh!", are you?!
But at the end of the day, everyone's different. Some of your post works, some doesn't. Some people draw the line 'here', and others push it a bit further.
I sense you've got valid points, but are pretty jealous. I know people with your attitude, and they're still a tad on the 'single' side a few months on...
Be yourself, be confident, and charm your way into someone special's life...
anjurdsg
Your whole argument seems to hinge on this, and it doesn't make any sense... My mum never ever told me to go for any type of man! And since when did young women do what their mothers tell them anyway?? They're more likely to rebel and do the opposite!
Alpha males who love themselves too much are all well and good until they try a real long term relationship.
You have a simplistic view of social dynamics, and whilst it can be true in some cases I don't think your argument is sound. Lumping guys into two camps does not work - sure there are very dominant males out there but equally there are those of us who show off our masculinity whilst being a nice guy for instance. There are all sorts of guys out there, and very few have the alpha qualities you have described - so where do all the really attractive girls go? I've seen really hot women with nerdy looking guys, and I think thats because he's got a great personality.
anjurdsg, do you have a girlfriend?
You have a simplistic view of social dynamics, and whilst it can be true in some cases I don't think your argument is sound. Lumping guys into two camps does not work - sure there are very dominant males out there but equally there are those of us who show off our masculinity whilst being a nice guy for instance. There are all sorts of guys out there, and very few have the alpha qualities you have described - so where do all the really attractive girls go? I've seen really hot women with nerdy looking guys, and I think thats because he's got a great personality.
anjurdsg, do you have a girlfriend?
I have suspicion people just STOP reading a quarter of the way through the post, and JUMP down to the last 4~5 lines of the post...
Would you, by any chance agree on:
Or would you like to keep it the way it is and say that 90% women are attracted to guys that DONT have these qualities?
Would you, by any chance agree on:
anjurdsg
Why do we characterise “alpha-males” as BAD and ARROGANT and READY TO BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THEIR GIRLFRIENDS? No…that’s NOT what I mean by ALPHA-male… an ALPHA-male, as I describe it, has some of these qualities:
- Strong in character (has his own opinion and his own life)
- Always takes lead (decides where to go on dates etc)
- Is always in control of himself, his surroundings
- Knows how to flirt
- Never complains or whines
- Never loses his temper (yes!!! Read that again!!!)
- Confident with women (or MAYBE a wee-bit arrogant)
- Good sense of humour
- Never accepts second class behaviour
- Knows how to say “no”
- Has clear goals in life
- … and about 50 other MASCULINE qualities
Why do we characterise “alpha-males” as BAD and ARROGANT and READY TO BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THEIR GIRLFRIENDS? No…that’s NOT what I mean by ALPHA-male… an ALPHA-male, as I describe it, has some of these qualities:
- Strong in character (has his own opinion and his own life)
- Always takes lead (decides where to go on dates etc)
- Is always in control of himself, his surroundings
- Knows how to flirt
- Never complains or whines
- Never loses his temper (yes!!! Read that again!!!)
- Confident with women (or MAYBE a wee-bit arrogant)
- Good sense of humour
- Never accepts second class behaviour
- Knows how to say “no”
- Has clear goals in life
- … and about 50 other MASCULINE qualities
Or would you like to keep it the way it is and say that 90% women are attracted to guys that DONT have these qualities?
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