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Why do people even go to a low ranked uni?

The impression i get from people on this website is that league tables are really important, employers will target top unis and therefore only the top 20-30 unis are worth bothering with?

But then why do people go to somewhere low ranked like Anglia Ruskin/Wolves/london met? Wouldn't you rather just go straight into work?

Why do all lower ranked unis get so many people applying?

If the degree is not worth the paper its written on then why even bother?

Would a 1st say from london met be able to compete with a 2:2 from ucl/oxbridge/
durham?

BTW: I am not saying there is no point; i'm just asking what advantages and disadvantages there are depending on league table?? Oh wow the "neg-tivity"-- red is my favorite colour any way so yay

Edit: It says im an adored and respected member! what happened??:colonhash:
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Reply 1

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Reply 2

I competed with two oxbridge and got the job where they had 1st and I have 1st from London Met. End of the day its all about skills rather than just a name.

Reply 3

cos people would like to study at the highest level possible etc...
yes I think a first from London met is more valuabe and so it should be rightly.

Reply 4

Because a degree is a degree as well! People don't just do degrees purely for work it's cos they enjoy it!


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Reply 5

Original post by zico8788
I competed with two oxbridge and got the job where they had 1st and I have 1st from London Met. End of the day its all about skills rather than just a name.


What job is this? The story seems a bit too perfect for this thread!!
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Reply 6

It's probably fair to say that employers will only specifically target Oxbridge/Russell Group graduates, but that only really applies when the graduate is headhunted. I'm not sure it works so much the other way around, when you apply for a job somewhere - for some professions, such as legal firms, then yes it is going to make a difference, but for many more I would expect that it's having the degree and the skills that come with it, rather than where you did your degree.

EDIT - why all the negs? what I said makes perfect sense
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Reply 7

Because they usually have lower requirements for specific courses....

Reply 8

Because things like nursing, primary education and many practical subjects (textiles, music technology etc) are mainly taught at ex-polys because the institutions taught those subjects before they became universities. These types of degrees teach useful skills and are more vocational than a lot of 'proper' degrees at 'proper' universities.

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I know people who went to Greenwich and are getting jobs while people from Kings who did the same degree are working in retail stores.

Reply 10

Employers do not just take graduates from the top uni's, they don't even target them as such. Talking from experience if you have a good class degree in a relevant subject and relating to a job you are applying for then they will most likely hire you. Obviously there are other things companies. look for such as experience, personality etc. People on TSR think it's all about the top uni's and grades....let me tell you, it's not!

Reply 11

Original post by sonnn
I know people who went to Greenwich and are getting jobs while people from Kings who did the same degree are working in retail stores.


what degree?

Reply 12

What unis are top? What the threshold for middle unis#? and then what number does low rank uni start?

Is it proportional so like 120unis meaning 1-40=good 40-80=average 80-120=crap is it like that? or arranged differently??

Reply 13

Original post by zico8788
I competed with two oxbridge and got the job where they had 1st and I have 1st from London Met. End of the day its all about skills rather than just a name.


Really? I find that hard to believe.

To answer op, some people like to go uni for the university experience. Obviously this is the right reason to go to uni as it will be very useful for them and it will only be the people who earn a lot that will end up paying for their fee.

Reply 14

Original post by wenger16


Would a 1st say from london met be able to compete with a 2:2 from ucl/oxbridge/
durham?


In many cases, I would say yes.

Look, no need to be such a snob. Some people only have the grades to get into these low ranked universities. Some people are international students or mature students that have emigrated and find it difficult to get through the door of highly ranked schools, compared to english speaking school leavers.

low ranked schools are still a means to an end you know? I mean, you could do pharmacy in a low ranked uni and get onto a job. Also, not every employer will look down on a graduate if his or her degree is not from a top 30, sometimes it's not relevant. A 1st is better than a 2.2, if you go to such a brilliant university, you should be willing and able enough to work your butt off to get a 2.1. Don't just assume oxbridge graduates can hop onto any job they want, I mean, they got into university on the back of exams they did when they were 17/18...
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Reply 15

You'll actually find that University League Tables actually do not mean an awful lot, and do not represent the larger picture. I am currently attending a university which is ranked 82nd overall, but for my particular course its ranked 11th, and universities which were ranked a lot higher on the University League Tables offering the same course are ranked considerably lower.

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russell group in itself doesn't mean anything - there's some **** uni's in it - and places like durham were not. It's just normally used as an umbrella for good universities without actually checking who is and who isnt in it
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Reply 17

Original post by Super Cicero
I'm going to York, which became a Russell Group university very recently. In 2015 when I've graduated, will employers be aware that York is now a Russell Group uni? Or will they mistakenly think that it isn't, which would put me at a disadvantage?


Just wanted to point something at to you, and a lot of other people who could under the delusion that just because their university is ranked in a certain position when their course started it could be considerably ranked lower when you graduate, and even lower once again when you're applying to jobs. Your perspective employer is going to take note of your degree, and what you got for your degree so 1:1 2:1 etc etc, and not where it was ranked in The University League Tables when your course started, and where it was ranked when you graduated because it offers no actual reflection on your degree.

Reply 18

I am going to do Childrens nursing at Birmingham City university, i know that overall i bet people have a view that it is not a very prestigous university, maybe for other courses... My dad is a doctor at birmingham childrens hospital he says that 70% of students that have placement at the hospital are from BCU.. They support the nurses great and are excellent for healthcare courses.. LOADS of nurses qualifying from BCU go to get jobs at BCH and thats where i would like to work.. Its about getting the best out of your degree, league tables arn't everything...

Reply 19

mine arn massively high ranked unis but they where the ones that offered what i needed, i cant move far as i have alot of ill and disabled family members and a young child and sure i could apply to durham but it dosnt offer what i want at times to suit my life