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I am in North Court this year as a fresher and am trying to find out some info about the internet access. First off, is it all on the uni proxy or does each house have a seperate wifi server. What is the speed like, I read somewhere that it is 4Mb/s speed so 0.5 MB/s speed but does anyone know if it is faster or slower in certain buildings, also if it isn't on the main uni proxied wifi do they have all the ports open so things like skype, itunes, steam and games work?

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First question, I don't know, sorry.
Second, the one about the speed, the connection itself is on 54mbit/second (please, notice the difference between megabit and megabyte), however, the actual connection speed differs depending on how far you are from the access point, and how much it is in the way (such as walls and stuff) and also, of course, how many people are connected to it at the moment. With the worst circumstances, you should expect about 2mbit/second. Just so you know, "ResNet" (the connection available in halls) have a limit on how much bandwitdh you may use. Although, I'm not sure weather this limit will be set on the connection speed or on the total amount of downloaded data each month.

All this information, and more, can be found at http://www.abdn.ac.uk/wireless/faq.shtml#g7

Although, it would be great if anybody knew how they will limit the bandwidth on ResNet!
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its going to be complicated but you need a login for resnet and it might be slow or sometimes go off i stayed at kings hall and it was tough but good luck if that helped
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First question, I don't know, sorry.
Second, the one about the speed, the connection itself is on 54mbit/second (please, notice the difference between megabit and megabyte), however, the actual connection speed differs depending on how far you are from the access point, and how much it is in the way (such as walls and stuff) and also, of course, how many people are connected to it at the moment. With the worst circumstances, you should expect about 2mbit/second. Just so you know, "ResNet" (the connection available in halls) have a limit on how much bandwitdh you may use. Although, I'm not sure weather this limit will be set on the connection speed or on the total amount of downloaded data each month.

All this information, and more, can be found at http://www.abdn.ac.uk/wireless/faq.shtml#g7

Although, it would be great if anybody knew how they will limit the bandwidth on ResNet!
Thanks for the minute amount you supplied, a few facts, your use of Megabit and Megabyte are wrong, seeing at the abbreviations are Mb and MB respectively and there are 8 bits to a byte. After that, I was mainly asking whether it is through a proxy? (do I need to login with a university username, or a code/WEP Code?)
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I guess you're the picky type, I should have written Mbit instead och mbit (Mbit for megabit and mbit for millibit, I thought it was clear that I was speaking about Megabits and not millibits). I just wanted to make clear that I meant BIT and not BYTE, therefore the explaination between the parentheses.

Second, You need to login to ResNet via a personal password (I think, but I'm not sure, that it will be the same as your username and password for Student Portal etc.). However, you can find all the information you need, by visiting the website I linked to in my last post.
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I guess you're the picky type, I should have written Mbit instead och mbit (Mbit for megabit and mbit for millibit, I thought it was clear that I was speaking about Megabits and not millibits). I just wanted to make clear that I meant BIT and not BYTE, therefore the explaination between the parentheses.

Second, You need to login to ResNet via a personal password (I think, but I'm not sure, that it will be the same as your username and password for Student Portal etc.). However, you can find all the information you need, by visiting the website I linked to in my last post.
Hey again, sorry for being picky and shooting you down, just wanted you to know I know what the difference is and I made that clear by saying MB and Mb separately. Anyway, I have looked at the links and all the sublinks and there is no useful information so I have emailed the IT department.

In the meantime can anyone give me a straight answer, can you access Skype, iTunes download, Steam (Valve gaming download service), any MMORPGs etc, I am familiar with how boarding schools proxies work and I am just praying to god that the halls of residence wifi is not so restrictive. If you can answer me a straight yes or no with an explanation you will have put my mind at ease, because lets be honest, no one wants to pay £25 a month for a dongle just so they can get tunes and play a light game of CoD or something like that. Oh yeah, can someone also if they know tell me what kind of login it is, WEP, General Password, Proxy etc?

Thanks, and I hope anyone else with similar worries as me finds this thread and can glean some answers from it.

EDIT: This question is mainly for North Court halls but if you have any info regarding the wifi in any University of Aberdeen, Hillhead Halls of Residence it would be great if you could share.
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its going to be complicated but you need a login for resnet and it might be slow or sometimes go off i stayed at kings hall and it was tough but good luck if that helped
Thanks for this mate, so you are saying it is slow and disconnects regularly and that it is complicated and doable to download stuff, skype and play games? I am used to lag and slowish downloads as I live in the Caribbean but I am just trying to ascertain what I can and can't do on the network, because if I can't do some of the things listed above I am going to buy a dongle and just deal with £20-30 a month, I will need music, movies and games when I am not out getting pissed or studying in my room.
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I stayed in NCC last year and internet access was a pain. It kept cutting out, even when I was sat right under the wee thing on the ceiling that sends out the signal, and when I was the only one trying to connect to it. I bought myself an ethernet cable and used that instead and it was so much faster than eduroam or resnet, and worked almost all the time, but during exam time and when my essays were due in, it always seemed to cut out so I found myself walking down to the library instead.

As for watching things on iPlayer and such like, it would sometimes take over 2 hours to watch a half hour program, but other times it would work fine. And iTunes just wouldn't work at all for the first month, but that was something to do with the proxy rather than slow internet speeds. Skype worked fine for me though, but the slow speed meant that there was a lot of lag.
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I stayed in NCC last year and internet access was a pain. It kept cutting out, even when I was sat right under the wee thing on the ceiling that sends out the signal, and when I was the only one trying to connect to it. I bought myself an ethernet cable and used that instead and it was so much faster than eduroam or resnet, and worked almost all the time, but during exam time and when my essays were due in, it always seemed to cut out so I found myself walking down to the library instead.

As for watching things on iPlayer and such like, it would sometimes take over 2 hours to watch a half hour program, but other times it would work fine. And iTunes just wouldn't work at all for the first month, but that was something to do with the proxy rather than slow internet speeds. Skype worked fine for me though, but the slow speed meant that there was a lot of lag.
Thanks, its a bloody pain that in 2012, in university in a developed country they can get away with selling ****e internet. I will have to wait and judge for myself when I get there and ask some more technical questions of IT, but the picture I am getting is they are scamming us because even in the modern age so few teens/young adults have any clue of the difference between a Mb and a MB or what a proxy is or what a port is, so they can give people **** access, and they in their innocent ignorance come back for seconds with no complaint.

Anyway, I hope, no offence mate that your case is unique and that the internet isn't all that bad, because after 7 years in boarding school and 11 years prior to that living in a developing country I just want a stable connection to stream stuff like movies and music and play games when I have a spare hour on the weekend.
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Anyway, I hope, no offence mate that your case is unique and that the internet isn't all that bad, because after 7 years in boarding school and 11 years prior to that living in a developing country I just want a stable connection to stream stuff like movies and music and play games when I have a spare hour on the weekend.
I think they were going to try and improve the Internet connection this year after the problems last year around exam time- the service cut out for over a day in my flat when I had an essay to research for.

An Ethernet cable comes in really handy though



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An Ethernet cable comes in really handy though
The problem is that the ethernet connection isn't available in all halls... For example, I'm staying in South House, which offers no connection via ethernet cable (at least not according to their website).
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what is the university's stance on use of utorrent etc?
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First off, is it all on the uni proxy or does each house have a seperate wifi server.

do they have all the ports open so things like skype, itunes, steam and games work?
Skype will work, iTunes should work if you have the proxy set in your browser. Some game ports are open on resnet but I can't test these for you to say for sure sorry. The autoproxy URL is http://www.abdn.ac.uk/local/autoproxy.php or if you need to enter in a server: port in a certain app use proxy.abdn.ac.uk:8080

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what is the university's stance on use of utorrent etc?
See http://www.abdn.ac.uk/dit/student/news/index_1751.php

Basically, if they get in a report from a company monitoring a torrent for illegal downloads you will need to get a form signed by yourself and adviser saying you understand terms and conditions and your internet access will be restricted/reduced.

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I was mainly asking whether it is through a proxy? (do I need to login with a university username, or a code/WEP Code?)
The wireless is WPA2/AES and you will need to use your student username you get when doing e-registration and stick @abdn.ac.uk on the end (so like [email protected]) and your password. You need to add the proxy into your browser and possibly some other applications so they know how to get out to the wider internet.

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I bought myself an ethernet cable and used that instead and it was so much faster than eduroam or resnet
Buying an ethernet cable from somewhere like Poundland is probably worth it if you have access to wired resnet. (New Carnegie Court, Fyfe, Wavell, Adam Smith and some desks in the Library)
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Skype will work, iTunes should work if you have the proxy set in your browser. Some game ports are open on resnet but I can't test these for you to say for sure sorry. The autoproxy URL is http://www.abdn.ac.uk/local/autoproxy.php or if you need to enter in a server: port in a certain app use proxy.abdn.ac.uk:8080



See http://www.abdn.ac.uk/dit/student/news/index_1751.php

Basically, if they get in a report from a company monitoring a torrent for illegal downloads you will need to get a form signed by yourself and adviser saying you understand terms and conditions and your internet access will be restricted/reduced.



The wireless is WPA2/AES and you will need to use your student username you get when doing e-registration and stick @abdn.ac.uk on the end (so like [email protected]) and your password. You need to add the proxy into your browser and possibly some other applications so they know how to get out to the wider internet.



Buying an ethernet cable from somewhere like Poundland is probably worth it if you have access to wired resnet. (New Carnegie Court, Fyfe, Wavell, Adam Smith and some desks in the Library)
Thanks mate, so its not a disaster, it just may be a bit slow, wonky and I may have to just not play games, that is fair enough. It looks to me as if they use the proxy for convenience not restriction so I should be able on say a quiet Sunday to log onto a game or stream a show, once I am there I can ask more specific questions about which ports are open and maybe send them a letter requesting more ports, and **** it, if they can't open them, I can do without, its all minor quality of life stuff.

Anyway, I am looking forward to freshers and after boring ass A levels I look forward to studying something I am interested, game and movies will only enhance the experience, they aren't required

P.S. Some advice is, if you use uTorrent, uninstall it before you go, BT is **** hot about reporting you if you are on a shared network, one of my mates has had 2 cautions by post, its not worth it, just pay a couple quid or stream it.
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Wireless networks broadcast are Resnet + Eduroam in Hillhead Halls.

Link Speeds vary across campus between 54 over wireless G + 150 over wireless N (where available, depending on laptop etc)

Wireless is limited to exactly 10Mb down + 10Mb up.

All speeds depend on individual laptop age/model/make + density of people in 1 area.
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I heard the uni can see browsing history and stuff? and what is a ethernet cable?
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I heard the uni can see browsing history and stuff? and what is a ethernet cable?
Since the uni is responsible for the network it would be nothing but sensibel for them to monitor their network to prevet illegal activites.

Ethernet cable is the cable that goes from you internet modem or router into your computer (if you're connected via cable). It's one of these bad boys; http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wired--up-Et...6022519&sr=8-2
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I'm not exactly computer-smart, but I can tell from my experience of it last year in Fyfe house, it was generally a little bit sluggish but not too bad. I could stream TV shows, play games etc. with very little trouble.

There were times when the connection was terrible, but that was usually in the evening when most people were online.

Also, the only thing they block is porn.
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