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Im sure Bath is good, but why it is not in the Russell group?
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The Russell group is not necessarily the best universities in the UK. They are research-intensitive universities that get almost all Government funding for research. Many good universities have only just joined or are not a member of this group. Bath is obviously one of these.
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so Bath is not good at researching?
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Bath does great research (especially in maths), but is in the 1994 Group rather than the Russel Group because it is targeted more towards smaller universities.

EDIT: You just have to remember that both of these groups exist in order to pressure the government for more money - they do not represent academic superiority. Similarly, the Ivy League is just for sports.
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(Original post by mathsymathsy)
Im sure Bath is good, but why it is not in the Russell group?
Bath does great research but not as MUCH research as the Russell Groups as it is a smaller university.
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Because it's in the 1994 group. St andrews is another great uni that's in the 1994 rather than the russell group.
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Only showers get to be in the Russel group
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Bath really ought to be in the Russell Group in 2014, everyone knows it is a really high quality institution whose graduates are amongst the most sought after by leading firms. One reason may be that Bath does not have a medical or dental school, which almost all Russell Group universities do have. To join the Russell Group, a university must demonstrate excellence in research across a broad range of disciplines.
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Bath really ought to be in the Russell Group in 2014, everyone knows it is a really high quality institution whose graduates are amongst the most sought after by leading firms. One reason may be that Bath does not have a medical or dental school, which almost all Russell Group universities do have. To join the Russell Group, a university must demonstrate excellence in research across a broad range of disciplines.
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(Original post by Mansun)
Bath really ought to be in the Russell Group in 2014, everyone knows it is a really high quality institution whose graduates are amongst the most sought after by leading firms. One reason may be that Bath does not have a medical or dental school, which almost all Russell Group universities do have. To join the Russell Group, a university must demonstrate excellence in research across a broad range of disciplines.
I completely agree. Top universities, such as St Andrews, Lancaster, Bath, Loughborough, Sussex and Leicester, are regularly ranked highly but don’t belong to the Russell Group (RG Group).I think also it has something to do with having a medical school, being good at research across a broad range of disciplines and having a certain size.

Here is the reason why the above mentioned universities, such as Bath, are not part of the RG group: Bath does not have a medical school and is not large enough. St Andrews does have a medical school but seems not to have the size. Lancaster does have a medical school but its research, although very good, is probably not stellar. Loughborough does not have a medical school. Sussex has a medical school but its research is not stellar. Leicester has a medical school but does not have stellar research. From the ex-polys the following have a medical school: Brighton (together with Sussex), University of Central Lancashire and Plymouth. Obviously these universities are not part of the RG because they do not have stellar research.

By the way in Germany one observes a similar phenomenon. They equivalent RG group there is called U15. The association German U15 e.V. is a coalition of fifteen major research-intensive and leading medical universities in Germany with a full disciplinary spectrum, excluding any defining engineering sciences.

Some great universities such as the university of Mannheim (which has a great reputation in economic and business subjects) are not part of the U15, exactly because they do not have a medical school.

For engineering sciences the equivalent group is called TU9. TU9 German Institutes of Technology e. V. is an incorporated society of the nine most prestigious, oldest, and largest universities focusing on engineering and technology in Germany.
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(Original post by Mansun)
Bath really ought to be in the Russell Group in 2014, everyone knows it is a really high quality institution whose graduates are amongst the most sought after by leading firms. One reason may be that Bath does not have a medical or dental school, which almost all Russell Group universities do have. To join the Russell Group, a university must demonstrate excellence in research across a broad range of disciplines.
Bath does have a medical school.
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Bath does have a medical school.
It really doesn't. I go to university in Bath - neither university has a medical school.
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