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They're pretty much sister subjects, but I don't know which one to do.

I've been hearing a lot about problems in the Pharmacy job market (too many pharmacists etc) and am starting to worry that I'll come out of University, be £50,000 in debt and then have to work in a shop; anyone else in this dilemma? Can anyone shed a little light on what's actually happening with Pharmacy, as one of the main reasons I found it appealing was the near 100% graduate employment rates!

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Hey there,

Firstly, they're not that sisterly - one teaches you about the science and the science alone, the other trains you for a semi-vocational career utilising the science taught (the Pharmacy course is 40% Pharmacology after all). The jobs at the end couldn't be more different! Pharmacy is more patient care-based, Pharmacology will lead you into career in research (although you may need an Msc and even a PhD to get a good position).

I'd go with Pharmacy (in fact, am currently going with Pharmacy haha) as there's always a place and job for a pharmacist in society, no matter where or when you go in life. It's a skill set you'll always have to your name. The fact that there are fewer jobs for Pharmacy atm shouldn't be held as an indication of the future - we're in a recession and jobs in any sector are scarce! So what if Pharmacy job prospects have dropped? So have every other subject's (and probably only by a minute amount). If you were to draw a comparison between a Pharmacy grad's job prospects, and a Pharmacologist's, Pharmacy would still exceed by a long shot due to the nature of the degree.

Even though prospects for pharmacists aren't at all all time high, they're a damn side brighter than someone studying pure Pharmacology...the 5 year Pharmacy course trains and gears the student towards becoming a Pharmacist, and is very specialised and sought after; a Bsc in Pharmacology is 3 year course studying a particular aspect of Biochemistry and is not tailored around any job. You just gotta hope that you find a Pharmacology-related job amid all the other 1000s of Pharmacology, Biocehmistry, Biomed, and Pharmaceutical Science graduates who are all trying to do the same!

Not only this, but the skills learned in Pharmacy are more transferable than pure Pharmacology - you gain experience in patient care, some aspects of law, and receive CPD throughout your career as a pharmacist - meaning you can work in a hospital setting, in industry, or even in business. This makes a pharmacist more valuable to employers than someone with a Bsc in Pharmacology. If you can 't get a job as a pharmacist, you can definitely get one in some other field because of the degree.

Maybe also keep in mind the 'graduate employment rates' for both subjects - just because Pharmacologists get jobs, it doesnt mean they get good jobs. The rates don't tell you what jobs they end up doing, or their wage, or where they can go with their career. Maybe take a deeper look into what a typical Pharmacologist and Pharmacist would do in their day-to-day and see which suits you best.

Soz for the essay. I believe that the problems in the Pharmacy job market are but a reflection of the current economic climate. If you googled rates for any subject you'll probably get a similar % decrease, so don't let that put you off the course if it's something youre genuinely interested in. Hope I helped!
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As someone who did an elective with BSs Pharmacology and Biomed students, the courses are not the same. For example, we had lectures on rheumatoid arthritis. The lectures, which were primarily aimed at Pharmacologists, went into huge detail of inflammatory pathways, cascades, enzymes, NfkB, all that good stuff. We (pharmacists) had to break that down, and repackage that into how this relates to therapeutics and drug treatment (e.g. how the advanced understanding of modulators can lead to new drug products etc)...

As for " there's always a place and job for a pharmacist in society", not too sure about that lol. ACT's, vending machines, the P reclassification may change all that quite drastically...
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I am considering Pharmacy, but don't know if I want to be a pharmacist.
I enjoy the course matter, but the job doesn't really inspire me.

So I am wondering if a PhD in Biological Sciences (which I thoroughly enjoy) or a PhD in Pharmacology would be as 'good' to employers as a Pharmacy degree (not pharmacists).
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Hey there,

Firstly, they're not that sisterly - one teaches you about the science and the science alone, the other trains you for a semi-vocational career utilising the science taught (the Pharmacy course is 40% Pharmacology after all). The jobs at the end couldn't be more different! Pharmacy is more patient care-based, Pharmacology will lead you into career in research (although you may need an Msc and even a PhD to get a good position).

I'd go with Pharmacy (in fact, am currently going with Pharmacy haha) as there's always a place and job for a pharmacist in society, no matter where or when you go in life. It's a skill set you'll always have to your name. The fact that there are fewer jobs for Pharmacy atm shouldn't be held as an indication of the future - we're in a recession and jobs in any sector are scarce! So what if Pharmacy job prospects have dropped? So have every other subject's (and probably only by a minute amount). If you were to draw a comparison between a Pharmacy grad's job prospects, and a Pharmacologist's, Pharmacy would still exceed by a long shot due to the nature of the degree.

Even though prospects for pharmacists aren't at all all time high, they're a damn side brighter than someone studying pure Pharmacology...the 5 year Pharmacy course trains and gears the student towards becoming a Pharmacist, and is very specialised and sought after; a Bsc in Pharmacology is 3 year course studying a particular aspect of Biochemistry and is not tailored around any job. You just gotta hope that you find a Pharmacology-related job amid all the other 1000s of Pharmacology, Biocehmistry, Biomed, and Pharmaceutical Science graduates who are all trying to do the same!

Not only this, but the skills learned in Pharmacy are more transferable than pure Pharmacology - you gain experience in patient care, some aspects of law, and receive CPD throughout your career as a pharmacist - meaning you can work in a hospital setting, in industry, or even in business. This makes a pharmacist more valuable to employers than someone with a Bsc in Pharmacology. If you can 't get a job as a pharmacist, you can definitely get one in some other field because of the degree.

Maybe also keep in mind the 'graduate employment rates' for both subjects - just because Pharmacologists get jobs, it doesnt mean they get good jobs. The rates don't tell you what jobs they end up doing, or their wage, or where they can go with their career. Maybe take a deeper look into what a typical Pharmacologist and Pharmacist would do in their day-to-day and see which suits you best.

Soz for the essay. I believe that the problems in the Pharmacy job market are but a reflection of the current economic climate. If you googled rates for any subject you'll probably get a similar % decrease, so don't let that put you off the course if it's something youre genuinely interested in. Hope I helped!
You're brilliant, thank-you!

ScoobyB4, thank-you too.

In the end, I've gone for Pharmacy and have got a few interviews at Manchester and UEA coming up, so we'll see how it goes. I'm pretty sure I've made the right decision for (pretty much) the reasons above and at the end of the day, I like both so it's win-win anyway!
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You're brilliant, thank-you!

ScoobyB4, thank-you too.

In the end, I've gone for Pharmacy and have got a few interviews at Manchester and UEA coming up, so we'll see how it goes. I'm pretty sure I've made the right decision for (pretty much) the reasons above and at the end of the day, I like both so it's win-win anyway!
That's super! Norwich is gorgeous, I came from there (now studying at Cardiff and loving it!). I got an offer from Manchester, so if you have any Qs about the interview just pm me - it was my hardest interview by far! Xx
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They're pretty much sister subjects, but I don't know which one to do.

I've been hearing a lot about problems in the Pharmacy job market (too many pharmacists etc) and am starting to worry that I'll come out of University, be £50,000 in debt and then have to work in a shop; anyone else in this dilemma? Can anyone shed a little light on what's actually happening with Pharmacy, as one of the main reasons I found it appealing was the near 100% graduate employment rates!

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Pharmacy jobs are harder to find than it has been in the past but what job isn't? Times are getting hard for all jobs. If you think pharmacy job market is hard then pharmacology wont be any better i assure youQ
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That's super! Norwich is gorgeous, I came from there (now studying at Cardiff and loving it!). I got an offer from Manchester, so if you have any Qs about the interview just pm me - it was my hardest interview by far! Xx
Hi there I'm struggling to PM you so thought I would ask about your Manchester interview. I have an interview there next Wednesday, if you could share what you remember from your interview and any questions you were asked I would very much appreciate it .Thanks in advance xx
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It was my hardest interview by far!
So you reckon Manchester was the hardest interview? :/ I mean, I only put it down to make up five choices, but I'm still ****t*ng it! I heard that a lot of people just got asked questions like "Why Pharmacy?" and "Name 3 drugs", what kind of things were you asked, if you remember?

I've seen a post where there are questions like "What's a non-standard method of administering Insulin?", "The future of Pharmacy. Please continue" and "How do antihistamines work?". I'm not being funny, but I don't know the intricacies of every aspect of Pharmacy; just like it and think I'll enjoy learning about it! It seems sh*tty that we have to be jumping through hoops, say what they want to hear, when at the end of the day, I just want to learn about it because I find it interesting
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So you reckon Manchester was the hardest interview? :/ I mean, I only put it down to make up five choices, but I'm still ****t*ng it! I heard that a lot of people just got asked questions like "Why Pharmacy?" and "Name 3 drugs", what kind of things were you asked, if you remember?

I've seen a post where there are questions like "What's a non-standard method of administering Insulin?", "The future of Pharmacy. Please continue" and "How do antihistamines work?". I'm not being funny, but I don't know the intricacies of every aspect of Pharmacy; just like it and think I'll enjoy learning about it! It seems sh*tty that we have to be jumping through hoops, say what they want to hear, when at the end of the day, I just want to learn about it because I find it interesting
Hi guys! I can't really remember that much about my interview. But I remember there's a 150 word exercise on writing something about pharmacy (each ones different) to test your English skills. There's a maths test too but its tolerable (I think so, I mighr be getting confused with another interview I did but I'm pretty sure both maths and eng). Then the actual interview was a panel of 2 - a pharmacy dr and a 4th year student

I got asked basic stuff like why pharmacy, why Manchester, then there were some ethical Qs - I got 'what would you do if your boss came into work drunk?' and another girl got 'would you sell weight loss tabs to a girl who appeared severely underweight, and why/why not' General stuff like that really. I think the best method to go down is to describe both options available, and the pros and cons of each, then explain how you'd probably know which one to go with when you are more experienced. I was also asked to explain what I learned from my work experience. My interview was literally 10 mins long and ended with the guy firing maths Qs at me I thought I hadn't got an offer but I had...so don't panic too much! I think they're just trying to scare you.

The questions will vary a lot since each interviewer will specify in their own field so probs ask questions more relevant to them. I just made sure I brushed up on my PS and could vouch for any claims made. Bear in mind that if your predicted grades exceed their typical offer they will raise it to match you (I wanted them as my insurance and found they upped my offer to match Cardiffs...!)

Anything other info you guys need just let me know!! Xxx weasley's jumper I tried to include you in this but am rubbish so the multiquote didnt work..! X
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Hi there I'm struggling to PM you so thought I would ask about your Manchester interview. I have an interview there next Wednesday, if you could share what you remember from your interview and any questions you were asked I would very much appreciate it .Thanks in advance xx
read my post above! tried to quote you but as with all things technological i failed miserably. Feel free to ask any other Qs )xxx
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Hi guys,
I'm currently applying to Manchester, Bath and Reading for pharamcy and exeter and UCL for pharmacology. Would I be considered still if I apply to a pharmacology course with a pharmacy personal statement?
Thanks.
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That's super! Norwich is gorgeous, I came from there (now studying at Cardiff and loving it!). I got an offer from Manchester, so if you have any Qs about the interview just pm me - it was my hardest interview by far! Xx
why was this interview the hardest?
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