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sleepysnooze
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right wing = capitalist~>
left wing = <socialist~
"liberal" and "conservative" are only certain kinds of "left" and "right" wing ideas
fascism is not "far right" in the same sense that anarchy is not "far left"
this is why I have such huge problems with the labels associated with left and rights -
they are confused when most people use them, or they question-beg
the purest understand of left and right is economics, not authority.
if you want a measurement of authority alone, you're not looking for "right and left" but "up and down"
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People should also study the de-classified info on the MK Ultra project. The US officials were forced to release official documents on mind control techniques used by the CIA or criminals in action as they should be known. They still use these techniques today. You may be seriously freaked out especially with its connections to celebrities.
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I think the philosoraptor would ask.......what part of encouraging people to eat naturally healthy food is propaganda? Ummmn. Nothing normal there......it's only existed for at least a hundred thousand years. Food for thought.
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Apparently we currently produce enough food to feed eleven billion people and yet one billion are still hungry. Could Monsanto and others be interested in food fascism? Hmmmn....Almost sounds like an agenda.
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Yes that would be Agenda 2030, which was previously called Agenda 21. Just pointing you all in the right direction.
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You need to watch the various analysis on youtube etc. It is a gigantic slab of UN documentation. Too much to wade through. Some videos are better at breaking down 17 of the key points than others.
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You know........i am an extreme misanthrope and yet, here i am trying to save people with knowledge. I feel like a traitor. Maybe i'm not quite dead inside. On to new pastures. Remember, waking up to the truth is painful. There is no such thing as normal....what's normal for the spider is chaos for the fly! Also i'm sorry if i acted in a way that made you think. I should apologize for my behaviour.

By the way stummi, you defend GMO food so fervently that i'd swear you have a vested interest in a company. Almost like your finances were tied up in the industry. I re-iterate, what part of eating naturally grown food is propaganda? If anything, it is contrary to corporate propaganda and indicates a clear thought process, especially if you grow your own food. That will soon be illegal. You can't even claim that genetically modified food solves hunger as a billion people out of 7.3 billion are still starving. I suspect you may be a corporate shill or a troll. Adios Amigo!
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Right wing:

- socially conservative

- economically liberal

- nationalistic

- protectionist

- nationalistic

Left wing

- socialist

- social democratic

- culturally progressive

- protectionist

- environmentalist

- non-interventionist

As a libertarian, it's hard to classify me as left or right




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Looking at the protests over Brexit and the election of Donald Trump, I think you can safely say that it is the left that are an intolerant group. In fact, the more to the left a person's politics, the less they believe in freedom and democracy. Incidentally, a liberal left winger got elected in France and there was barely a whimper from the right.
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Looking at the protests over Brexit and the election of Donald Trump, I think you can safely say that it is the left that are an intolerant group. In fact, the more to the left a person's politics, the less they believe in freedom and democracy. Incidentally, a liberal left winger got elected in France and there was barely a whimper from the right.
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Here's a mathematical way of the political spectrum:

Libertarian = less government
Authoritarian = more government

Left wing = socially libertarian + economically authoritarian

Right wing = socially authoritarian + economically libertarian
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Really? So the left haven't been protesting the president in the USA? And the left haven't been trying to change the Brexit vote since it happen? And you want to talk about intolerance and an inability to tolerate other views. People had their opinion. Most of them differed from yours. It's done. Take your own advice and accept it. Without attacking anyone. Freedom of opinion and all that :L
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It was Mr. Belford Bax, Socialist leader and writer, who said that, in the realm of politics, Socialism became Republicanism; in the realm of economics Socialism became Communism, and in the realm of religion Socialism became Atheism.

In a similar way it can be said of Conservatism that in the realm of politics it stands for Constitutional Monarchy, in the realm of economics it stands for Capitalism; and in the realm of religion it stands for Christianity.

This being so, it is plain that Socialism and Conservatism are diametrically opposed to each other in these three important spheres.

It could also be argued that socialism is an immigrant creed, engineered to overthrow a country, by opposing our religion, our monarchy, and our economy, just as they did in Russia. Atheism has led to a breakdown of the family unit, of morality, and of community. Wealth redistribution has led to huge debts, and republicanism has led to a divided and bickering nation at war with itself. Socialism destroys nations, and it is destroying ours.
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To make it short
Left-wing beliefs are liberal in that they believe society is best served with an expanded role for the government. People on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount and the role — and especially the power — of the government is minimized.
But if you look more deeply into the subject you found out that there is more to it. That's why it's hard to maintain strictly left or right points of view. People usually try to mix their views.

A variety of social issues in the U.S. divide the left and right. These include abortion, the death penalty, drug policy, gay rights, women's rights, separation of church and state, gun rights, and healthcare policy. In general, the left wing philosophy believes in "one for all and all for one," looking to the government to support those who cannot support themselves. The right wing, on the other hand, believes supporting individuals in need is not the most efficient way to optimize government resources, and relies on the private sector and charitable institutions for the same.

More information on the subject you can find here and here

But there is also some difference for the UK

In the UK the main left-wing parties are the Labour Party and the Green Party. They believe in making laws that protect women, ethnic minorities, and gay people against discrimination. They believe that we should tax rich people more to support people less well off, and they believe we should regulate big businesses so they serve people’s interests. They believe that a good welfare system means people are healthier, more able to work, and will put more back into the economy. They also typically believe country-wide tax-funded action on climate change is necessary.
[BTW - you can find some deep info at this sites too (this one) and (this one)]
In the UK the main right wing parties are the Conservative (or Tory) Party, and UKIP (who focus on the UK not being a part of the European Union). They believe that if you have more money, you should get to keep it and buy better education and health services for yourself. They believe that businesses should be less regulated and that the more money they earn, they’ll bring more benefits to the country. In 2008 2/3 of Tory MPs didn’t think climate change was a priority, but their leadership says it’s important. They are more likely to focus on energy security (oil and gas are set to run out very soon, and they won’t want to rely on other countries).
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The state is the government, using its power to solve problems that only the government can; healthcare, policing, schools etc.

Private companies are capable of providing education and healthcare, not policing
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Political compass test? Also, right-wingers aren't necessarily nationalistic, even if they are often patriotic, and, besides the alt-right, I don't think that the right have a reputation for being protectionist. If you're libertarian, chances are you're more right-wing

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well-put
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(Original post by alex5455)
i just knew it would be the right wingers who came in with insulting left wingers and calling them inferior or only want free stuff. the right are also extremely intolerant of any differing view point and viciously attack anyone who disagrees, you have the freedom to hold an opinion only if it agrees with theirs.
I disagree. I see that right and left is economic freedom and up and down (see the political compass) is social freedom and acceptance of others views. It's just a sad coincidence that most right-wingers are more authoritarian than libertarian but you shouldn't link their intolerance to their standpoint on economic and political beliefs.
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Thank you guys for this. I am a opinionated 15 year old and channels on youtube such as Sargon of Akkad and books like an Inspector calls had really confused me on what one is 'right' to be. I have now discovered (Thanks to your posts) that I am left wing. Thank you.
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****ing retard
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