India's Nepal Dilemma Watch

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http://www.rediff.com/news/2006/apr/07spec2.htm

India feels that it is definitive that the Maoist rebels in Nepal are not trusted. We believe that it is time for democracy in Nepal, one of our closest neighbours. This would do nothing but good for their economy, and the economy of surrounding countries. We believe that it is time for all undemocratic rule to end, and urge other countries to support us.

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China has excellent relations with our friends in Nepal and want nothing but the best for the country. We do NOT recognise these people as "Maoist" but are simply anti-Government forces. China, while not criticising the Nepalese royalty takeover, want swift reconciliation so a sensible government can be formed.
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India asks why does China not recognise these rebels as Maoists? They show all the traits, and have publicly admitted to supporting Maoism.
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China asks why India is so keen that China recognises these people as Maoists. Surely India is not an advocate?



Anyway, China feels these rebels abuse the ideology espoused by General Mao.

Now we would appreciate India talk about the matter at hand and not turning this into an Anti China thread.
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India is not an advocate of the rebels, we are advocating the introduction of democracy to Nepal. We feel that the matter in hand is discussing this with China, and is not an anti-China thread.
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China is doing all it can to help the Nepalese government. That does not have anything to do with us recognising them as Maoist.
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India still insists that they are Maoist rebels, despite what China may believe. They are recognised as Maoist rebels by most of the world's nations.
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Since we're quibbling on smaller details rather than the real issue, China would like to ask India whythese anti-government force leaders in Nepal can easily reach Western reporters based in India, evading Indian security agencies.
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Since we're quibbling on smaller details rather than the real issue, China would like to ask India whythese anti-government force leaders in Nepal can easily reach Western reporters based in India, evading Indian security agencies.
India can only assume that these reporters travelled into Nepal somehow. We would not let criminals enter our border - the Indian security agencies are competent and can defend our borders.

And perhaps China should sort out her own security issues before commenting on India's - we suggest Tibet to start with.
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India can only assume that these reporters travelled into Nepal somehow. We would not let criminals enter our border - the Indian security agencies are competent and can defend our borders.

And perhaps China should sort out her own security issues before commenting on India's - we suggest Tibet to start with.
China suggests India sorts out its own problems such as standoff with Pakistan, booming drugs trade and India's government's apathy towards AIDS, before commenting on China's security problems.

Is the mud slinging over, does India wish to know China's thoughts on the issue or would they like to scrape more grime from the barrel?
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India did not intend for this thread to turn into a mud slinging, but only reiterated to China's comments. India would like China to know we are dealing with the above issues... and don't even get us started on democracy and censorship in China!

If China wishes to tell us their thoughts on the issue, India would be more than happy.
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India would like China to know we are dealing with the above issues
Not according to the UN.

Anyway, our view on this matter is that this matter must be dealt with swiftly with a quick reconciliatio so a government can once again be formed. In this, we believe that the US can have a key role. We believe they can play this part by increasing their military package to the country and also helping to secure economic security.

China believes China itself can also provide help to the Nepalese monarchy, indeed we have already supplied arms to aid in the immediate fight against these forces. However, we believe this can be solved diplomatically, and will do everything feasible to stop a violent and bloody ending to this.
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Brazil hopes to promote peace in the area -
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UPdate on situation:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4890290.stm
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India condemns the killing of anti-Monarchist protestors, and uses this as another example of why democracy is needed in Nepal.
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Switzerland hopes that indiscriminate use of security forces on both rebels and civilians ceases and suggests that the Maoist rebels could be given a role in Nepal's democracy ,then the King could give some of his role to democratically elected representatives. Switzerland believes however that this country is not beyond reason and should be able to find a peaceful remedy.
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Can someone explain:- How's the king able to hold power without forming a government? Doesn't this violate the constitution?
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I think he declared a state of emergency
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He did in february 05 I think
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Umm okay, whatever for, when the situation seemed fine before this recent uprising?

Sorry, I just need some help catching up with the situation there.
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