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    (Original post by amazingtrade)
    UMIST is not a bad university, f*ck the league tables. UMIST would not have the highest graduate employment rates in the country if it was ****.

    When Salford merged with Salford University College that was bad because Salford just inhereted all the **** things of UCU. However the Manchestoh UMIST merger is different. Its much better thought through and it has real benifets.
    i never said that umist is a bad uni, it is just not as good as manchester university. umist accepts people with less requirements than manchester university. when they merge together surely this means that overall the quality of students is worse than manchester university's current students? 1st because of the merge of students, secondly probably a decrease in grade requirements after the merge for applications?
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    The main area of benefit will probably be in research. UMIST's specialist research departments will probably add a lot to Manchester's reputation as a multi-faculty university and increase the science profile considerably.
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    (Original post by TheWolf)
    i never said that umist is a bad uni, it is just not as good as manchester university. umist accepts people with less requirements than manchester university. when they merge together surely this means that overall the quality of students is worse than manchester university's current students? 1st because of the merge of students, secondly probably a decrease in grade requirements after the merge for applications?
    The minimum requirement for Comp Sci disprove this theory. This year Manchester and UMIST are asking for a minimum of ABB and BBC respectively. For 2005 entry the combined uni are looking for ABB. This shows that Manchesters commitment to "maintaining standards" does hold water!!!
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    (Original post by TheWolf)
    i never said that umist is a bad uni, it is just not as good as manchester university. umist accepts people with less requirements than manchester university. when they merge together surely this means that overall the quality of students is worse than manchester university's current students? 1st because of the merge of students, secondly probably a decrease in grade requirements after the merge for applications?
    Grade requirments are over rated like league tables. Just because it may say BBC it dosn't mean you can get in with that little. Its just they are clever enough to realise that some students may not have AAA but still be great for the university.

    I wouldn't say there was much difference in the grade bounderies anyway.
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    (Original post by amazingtrade)
    UMIST is not a bad university, f*ck the league tables. UMIST would not have the highest graduate employment rates in the country if it was ****.
    In fact, I read somewhere that UMIST had graduates who had the highest earnings in employment straight from university. Their prospectus for last year (entry 2003) even advertised the fact that one student had graduated and gone straight into a job earning something like 70k a year!!!
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    The times rank UMIST quite a few places higher than Manchester.
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    My dad is a journalist for alot of chinese media, he tells me that overseas especially in that part of the world, UMIST is not only ranked higher than Manchester but is seen as one of the best places in the world for those engineering and similar courses. They attract alot of foreign applicants and a degree from there is a hell of an asset for them.
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    None of this surprised me, I don't know many UMIST students (I only know one) but when I ever see him on the bus we have a long conversation about programming PIC processors etc.

    I think UMISTs only problem is that the electrical engineering sector is now not as healthy as it was, in fact engineering in general isnt. As UMIST mainly specialises in these areas UMIST would have had to addapt to new courses. This where the merger is ideal because Manchester can now have some very well respected engineering courses and also reach the better students from abroad.

    Once the merger has all gone through in September they need to start replacing some of the ugly buildings both universities currently have.
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    (Original post by fishpaste)
    My dad is a journalist for alot of chinese media, he tells me that overseas especially in that part of the world, UMIST is not only ranked higher than Manchester but is seen as one of the best places in the world for those engineering and similar courses. They attract alot of foreign applicants and a degree from their is a hell of an asset for them.
    This is one of the reasons why they will be successful in creating an university thats greater than the sum of its parts.
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    (Original post by amazingtrade)
    The times rank UMIST quite a few places higher than Manchester.
    err no - Manchester is 15, umist 23

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/display...,13373,00.html
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    (Original post by amazingtrade)
    None of this surprised me, I don't know many UMIST students (I only know one) but when I ever see him on the bus we have a long conversation about programming PIC processors etc.

    I think UMISTs only problem is that the electrical engineering sector is now not as healthy as it was, in fact engineering in general isnt. As UMIST mainly specialises in these areas UMIST would have had to addapt to new courses. This where the merger is ideal because Manchester can now have some very well respected engineering courses and also reach the better students from abroad.

    Once the merger has all gone through in September they need to start replacing some of the ugly buildings both universities currently have.
    The Kilburn building is quite pretty (if you like new, big and square). The business school kinda looks like a department store from a distance though...
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    (Original post by TheWolf)
    err no - Manchester is 15, umist 23

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/display...,13373,00.html
    I think he was refering to the employment thingy where UMIST came 2nd and Manchester came 4th...could be wrong though... :confused:
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    No I was refering to this

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/display...,17818,00.html
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    (Original post by amazingtrade)
    No I was refering to this

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/display...,17818,00.html
    ahh...The Sunday Times. I like to use the "Table Of Tables" one because it just seems like the best and most logical to me. Usually delete the FT bit though because they are just plain stupid.
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    (Original post by Leekey)
    ahh...The Sunday Times. I like to use the "Table Of Tables" one because it just seems like the best and most logical to me. Usually delete the FT bit though because they are just plain stupid.
    Which one is that? I didn't think the Financial Times published the league tables on the web? Or are you talking about that old medium called paper?
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    (Original post by amazingtrade)
    Which one is that? I didn't think the Financial Times published the league tables on the web? Or are you talking about that old medium called paper?
    This is the one I use....http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education.../27/tefuni.xml

    Just click the image to enlarge it or just d'load it!!!
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    hm

    BBC offer doesnt mean badness, lower grades dont mean its cr**. it totally depends on everything. lower grades usually mean the course isnt as popular and what not.

    sorry some1 post on here just annoyed me
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    (Original post by chaaa)
    hm

    BBC offer doesnt mean badness, lower grades dont mean its cr**. it totally depends on everything. lower grades usually mean the course isnt as popular and what not.

    sorry some1 post on here just annoyed me
    UMIST don't have a bad course in thier prospectus, I don't think anyone in thier right mind would every accuse UMIST of being anything other than quality!!!
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    lol i didnt say BAD i said NOT AS POPULAR

    two completely different things sillllllllly

    like i applied to combined studies in arts which offers AAB-BBC

    i got offer BBC because ive applied for the two subject areas in it which no1 ever doeeeeeees lol languages n r.s

    sooooo i got the lowest offer cus bugger all ppl wanna do that understanably really muahaha
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    latest times tables for 2004....UMIST 14, manchester 22 and i seem to remember financial times ranking UMIST first a year ago, above oxbridge in terms of employability of graduates/wages etc.
 
 
 
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