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Reply 2
heehee sooo tempting but it would take me all day to report everyone i know who gets EMA but shouldn't!! lol
Reply 3
What do you mean who shouldn't? Surely if they werent entitled then they wouldnt get it! Or do you mean saying their living with a lower income parent when their not?
Reply 4
littlemisssarah
What do you mean who shouldn't? Surely if they werent entitled then they wouldnt get it! Or do you mean saying their living with a lower income parent when their not?


Sadly the system isn't perfect. I know of one person with a Porsche who gets EMA.... ludicrous.
I don't think so. As far as I know, EMA is only for further education, not higher. There's all sorts of other funding for uni students.
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Reply 6
Meh I know a girl who's on it. Her daddy bought her a brand new car when she passed and they have a villa in spain.
Whoa, hold up a second. Surely you're not reporting people for benefit fraud because your perception is that they don't need EMA? If their parents earn below the threshold and they're attending the stated amount of hours of guided tuition, then they're entitled to the allowance, whether they actually need it or not, and reporting them for benefit fraud is very serious and lawfully wrong in this case.

Although yes, I agree that people who get it but still have enough cash bandying around for a lucury car and stuff like that is wrong.
Reply 8
^^ Indeed - remember that people could just be buying stuff on credit cards (which may well not get paid off), and still be from a low-income background, thus qualifying for EMA. Make sure that they are entirely in the wrong!!
Reply 9
from the website linked
If you suspect someone of benefit fraud, please complete as much of this form as you can. Do not worry if you don't know the answers to some of the questions...


Suspicion is all about your perception. :p:

The reportee isn't required to submit a full dossier of evidence & prosecute the case themself.
Nor are people going to march round & arrest someone in a "lawfully wrong" manner *just* because someone else suspects them!
Reply 10
Elles
Suspicion is all about your perception. :p:

The reportee isn't required to submit a full dossier of evidence & prosecute the case themself.
Nor are people going to march round & arrest someone in a "lawfully wrong" manner just because someone else suspects them!


Yer, you only report them. The DWP will do the rest, and reach an outcome.

The girl's parents are divorced, the mother claims to be unemployed, but she recieives payments from the father. The father is a local millionaire.
The mother drives a brand new £50,000 Merc and the daughter has a brand new Polo. I only reported my suspicion, the govt. will investigate it. Justice will prevail.
Reply 11
Everybody knows somebody who's fiddling the EMA system - is it worth dropping them in it now with only a few months to go? Maybe the DWP will backdate their payments and ask for it all back :biggrin:
Reply 12
thats a bit unfair! wouldnt you have it if u could...i know i would.....grass.
I know people on EMA who definitely shouldn’t be, people living in a house with two working parents earning well above the minimum threshold but still receiving the full £30, I even know how they fiddled the forms to get it but all I can say is good on them; I've been brought up not to 'grass' on my friends or anyone else for that matter (because they inevitably find out or have their suspicions and seek revenge of some sort) and in my opinion its up to the authorities to find them out not me!
Reply 14
Steeeeevo
I know people on EMA who definitely shouldn’t be, people living in a house with two working parents earning well above the minimum threshold but still receiving the full £30, I even know how they fiddled the forms to get it but all I can say is good on them; I've been brought up not to 'grass' on my friends or anyone else for that matter (because they inevitably find out or have their suspicions and seek revenge of some sort) and in my opinion its up to the authorities to find them out not me!


I suppose when you are working you will be happy that you pay slightly more in tax than you would have to if people didn't evade the Revenue? Or perhaps be happy to pay your national insurance knowing it's funding benefits cheats?

Someone who cheats the system is commiting fraud, and aslo theft. They steal from your hard work. If you saw someone mug someone in the street would you refuse to give a witness statment because it was "up to the authorities" to prove they did it? Leaving it up to the authorities is ridiculous. The DWP doesn't have enough staff to follow everyone round and make sure they aren't cheating - they rely on the co-operation of the public. Citizenship carries with it not only rights but RESPONSIBILITIES. Live up to yours.
Anne Auraque
Yer, you only report them. The DWP will do the rest, and reach an outcome.

The girl's parents are divorced, the mother claims to be unemployed, but she recieives payments from the father. The father is a local millionaire.
The mother drives a brand new £50,000 Merc and the daughter has a brand new Polo. I only reported my suspicion, the govt. will investigate it. Justice will prevail.


1. Maintenance from her dad given to her mum is not inxcluded in the households income, the form clearly states this, also maintenance does not count as employment
2. Her fathers income is not taken into account unless he lives at the same adress as the child

Therefore, I think your possibly wasting their time, it may not be the fairest situation but it is legal.
Reply 16
Yeah, it is slightly annoying. But jesus, how annoying is the OP. Don't report them! It's not harming you, it's just irritating. The system is **** anyway, because even those who do need it, they don't spend it on school-related stuff, they go out and get pissed on it. So in that perception, no-one needs it.

By the way, I don't get EMA but a majority of my friends do.
Reply 17
zhivago
Yeah, it is slightly annoying. But jesus, how annoying is the OP. Don't report them! It's not harming you, it's just irritating. The system is **** anyway, because even those who do need it, they don't spend it on school-related stuff, they go out and get pissed on it. So in that perception, no-one needs it.

By the way, I don't get EMA but a majority of my friends do.


Yer but where will you go with that attitude? If you don't like something change it. I've written a letter to my MP, it's your tax money that is being wasted. It may sound pompous, etc., etc., but I think it's unfair.
Reply 18
Ethereal
I suppose when you are working you will be happy that you pay slightly more in tax than you would have to if people didn't evade the Revenue? Or perhaps be happy to pay your national insurance knowing it's funding benefits cheats?

Someone who cheats the system is commiting fraud, and aslo theft. They steal from your hard work. If you saw someone mug someone in the street would you refuse to give a witness statment because it was "up to the authorities" to prove they did it? Leaving it up to the authorities is ridiculous. The DWP doesn't have enough staff to follow everyone round and make sure they aren't cheating - they rely on the co-operation of the public. Citizenship carries with it not only rights but RESPONSIBILITIES. Live up to yours.


That's what I meant to say! :p:

You'll never be caught if you inform.
Reply 19
The Colonel
1. Maintenance from her dad given to her mum is not inxcluded in the households income, the form clearly states this, also maintenance does not count as employment
2. Her fathers income is not taken into account unless he lives at the same adress as the child

Therefore, I think your possibly wasting their time, it may not be the fairest situation but it is legal.


What happens if she lives part time with the father?

It seems ridiculous that maintenance at such high levels isn't counted.:mad: