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Original post by Lee R
Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that. Degree or not, you'll start at the bottom.


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I know, it's basically their way of saying 'we'll let any idiot in'.
Original post by pizzle223
I know, it's basically their way of saying 'we'll let any idiot in'.


With there selection process, an idiot won't get in. It's not as easy as people think.

As far as Co19, etc forget it. If you want to carry weapons join the British Army.


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Original post by Lee R
With there selection process, an idiot won't get in. It's not as easy as people think.

As far as Co19, etc forget it. If you want to carry weapons join the British Army.


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I'd like to say I believe you but it does seem like they let any idiot in..
Original post by Dan1000
For ages now I have wanted to join CO19, and am going to do a Law Degree in Leeds (not sure how much that will help but I want to do it anyway)

Want kind of qualifications will I need? And how physically fit do I need to be? Because I am not a fit person, I am getting better, and have four years til I will have finished Uni (A2 Year now, and then 3 in Uni), I know I need to join the normal Met for 2 years minimum before I can apply for CO19 and have to have a pysch test, but I am a law-abiding, cautious person, so I should be okay. The main things that worries me is the fitness?


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Funnily enough, I looked into this last night.

There is no formal entry requirement in terms of qualifications to get into the Police force but you'll be required to pass a series of written tests (presumably in basic English and arithmetic skills, possibly a bit of verbal reasoning or similar too).

In terms of fitness, you need to be able to reach level 5 of the bleep test (easy, I can get to level 11 reasonably comfortably and I wouldn't say I was super fit) and keep going at that level until you've done 4 shuttle runs of it. You also need to have your push and pull power tested on a special machine. Apparently they look for an average of around 32kg.

I've got no idea about co19 specifically but it doesn't really matter because whichever way you look at it, you're going to have to start from the bottom. I'd imagine it's a pretty difficult process though, they're not going to let any muppet run around the streets with a firearm. Given that you're in position for a law degree though, I'd imagine that you would be able to achieve it provided your fitness was up to scratch. It's definitely going to be higher than what is required of a normal Officer though.
Original post by bad_moose
Funnily enough, I looked into this last night.

There is no formal entry requirement in terms of qualifications to get into the Police force but you'll be required to pass a series of written tests (presumably in basic English and arithmetic skills, possibly a bit of verbal reasoning or similar too).

In terms of fitness, you need to be able to reach level 5 of the bleep test (easy, I can get to level 11 reasonably comfortably and I wouldn't say I was super fit) and keep going at that level until you've done 4 shuttle runs of it. You also need to have your push and pull power tested on a special machine. Apparently they look for an average of around 32kg.

I've got no idea about co19 specifically but it doesn't really matter because whichever way you look at it, you're going to have to start from the bottom. I'd imagine it's a pretty difficult process though, they're not going to let any muppet run around the streets with a firearm. Given that you're in position for a law degree though, I'd imagine that you would be able to achieve it provided your fitness was up to scratch. It's definitely going to be higher than what is required of a normal Officer though.


You also need to have good personal skills to complete the 'scenario' section of the tests. Fail this and it's goodbye.

I honestly don't see why anyone would want to go for Co19, what I have read about that role is that it is very boring. You carry firearms, but never use it. MI5 are too on the ball in London, so your chances of a 'fire-fight' are vastly redundant.

You may as well join The Parachute Regiment. Far more fun! ;-)


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Original post by pizzle223
I'd like to say I believe you but it does seem like they let any idiot in..


Are you in? Clearly not then.
Original post by Shortarse1
Are you in? Clearly not then.


Oh how incredibly witty of you!
Original post by pizzle223
Oh how incredibly witty of you!


No different to saying that they let any idiot in because grads don't get rated higher. Not really that well informed but I'll make a sweeping statement anyway.
Original post by Shortarse1
No different to saying that they let any idiot in because grads don't get rated higher. Not really that well informed but I'll make a sweeping statement anyway.


I make statements based on my experiences with public servants. A lot of them are good, smart people. Sadly a lot of aren't.
Original post by pizzle223
I make statements based on my experiences with public servants. A lot of them are good, smart people. Sadly a lot of aren't.


I don't think you're grasping what people are saying.

The Met and the Co19 department (or any other specialist department in the police force) do not allow just any one to join. They look for the highest calibre people. Not just a bobby who has applied.

They have to have 'the best', like the Special Air Service - they will only take the best men.


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I am wanting to be a co19 in London but do I have to be a normal police man first
Yes, if you want to work as a firearms officer you need to go through the process of being a regular uniformed police officer for at least two years first (the probationary period applies for any specialised units).
Jon,

Bit of a longshot you'll see this as it's 3 years on but worth a go!

You seem like the man to ask having had experience in sc&o19 - is there an age limit for joining? I'm 22, finishing University this year, and wanting to join the Armed Forces as a Pilot (Navy/RAF not sure yet). The minimum return of service for that is 12 years, but afterwards I'd like to join the Met and eventually end up in sc&o19. However, I realise that that career path would leave me pushing 40 by the time I had got into the Met and passed the probationary period.

All things being equal and processes staying the same (which they probably won't), what are my chances of getting into the Met and sc&o19 post Forces?

Massively appreciate any help you can give!
Original post by Jon1234567
Hi, to the guys wishing to join the police with the intention to join firearms, great but it's a long drawn out process. Yes a law degree will definitely help you these days with most forces either only taking on new recruits through graduate schemes or internal applicants, it will stand you in good stead anyway.


But firearms or co19 for those of you talking about the met police, because co19 is only the met specialist firearms team code name. You must do a number of years as a frontline officer before being considered and its a selection/application process to become an authorised firearms officer AFO. You have to be mentally and physically fit! Trust me if your not, your waisting your time. It's not a case of blagging interviews, or becoming fit for a day or so to get through and then dropping your fitness levels again. Very few make it, it's a tough job the selection and specialist recruitment is designed to fail the people they don't want or need. You get one chance too and it's ongoing and I mean ongoing constant assessments. Then you will get asked the ultimate question, can you kill a human being someone's daughter, mother, wife, not so easy now? People I know wanted to become an AFO to walk around with an MP5 sub machine gun to look good needless to say they never got through. I'm 29 and I was a CO19 officer for 4 years and a PC for 5 years before that. I resigned last year (2012) it's a great job guys but its never going to be the most glamorous job in the world or have the support needed to run a police force in the 21st Centry.


Jon, Bit of a longshot you'll see this as it's 3 years on but worth a go!You seem like the man to ask having had experience in sc&o19 - is there an age limit for joining? I'm 22, finishing University this year, and wanting to join the Armed Forces as a Pilot (Navy/RAF not sure yet). The minimum return of service for that is 12 years, but afterwards I'd like to join the Met and eventually end up in sc&o19. However, I realise that that career path would leave me pushing 40 by the time I had got into the Met and passed the probationary period.All things being equal and processes staying the same (which they probably won't), what are my chances of getting into the Met and sc&o19 post Forces?Massively appreciate any help you can give!
I was imagining SRO would take me based on just on being a great shot. (I shoot for the county). Guess not.
Reply 35
what gcse do I need to be in the co19 and I am physically fit and can run for years on end but I need to know what gcse I need to join the force
Reply 36
I need help if anyone knows
Original post by faulk
I need help if anyone knows


Look at the entry requirements for police officer. They differ by police force, but most forces expect you to have at least two A Levels. None will care what GCSEs you have as long as you get your Maths and English and a handful of decent grades.

If you join after 2020 you will need a degree.

Joining the armed response unit is very difficult, and you will not get there even after just two years of being a police officer. They accept only the coppers who can pass the entry boards and examinations after years of experience of being regular coppers in the job, and even then you can get chucked off the training course if you fail and just go back to being a regular cop. I know this as I have witnessed it.

In any case, Armed Response is a relatively boring and slow job with lots of repetition, drinking tea, and standing around. In the police we (lovingly, of course) liken our armed units to knuckle dragging gorillas who eat crayons. That said, we are greatful to have armed units and do count on them for support when needed, and in my force at least, they are willing to lend a hand when no one else can. If you join the police because you really want to be an armed copper, you are probably not the best person for the job.

If you ever do go through to interview for the role of PC, never say that you want to be an armed cop. They'll laugh and send you packing. It should be a decision made once you are in the job, after you have thought carefully about your strengths and weaknesses and how you really want to combat and deter crime.
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Reply 38
I'm super keen to join the police and have 2 years left at uni, but as my time is split almost half and half between living at home in England and uni in Scotland I can't apply to be a special :frown: I was wondering if there were any work placements/internships for the summer that would help my application in the future? I found placements are offered with the police in London or week placements for school students and I've been looking into work experience with the British transport police or customs but I'm struggling to find anything I can do as I live in the north of England. I know that volunteering in your local community is helpful but I would love to get more insight into police work/preventing crime etc. Thanks for your help :smile:
Reply 39
You need to earn your independant patrol status, apply for a armed firearms officer the progress as an armed responce vehicle driver for a minimum of 4years and then apply for CO19 also the bleep test is level 9 requirement i think. Also the police are introducing that new recruits need a degree in policing not law and that is only coming into play in 2020

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