i'd heard about this
not many people seem to know anything about this at all
politicians are trying right now to circumvent the basic rights of magna carta
that means basically political dictatorship
if this gets through, it's time to leave the country.
seriously
have a look
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/...y_freedom.html
www.saveparliament.org.uk
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Sensibly speaking I don't think the government is going to abuse this power, but I hate the creeping power of the state under New Labour. It is so ****ing annoying to see them do what they want in spite of public opinion for 4 years and then see them re-elected because there is no good alternative mainstream party. Disgusting perversion of democracy.
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was hardly democracy in the first place, NL only won 36% of the vote. Hardly representing Brits! -
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- 11-04-2006 15:24
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They got more than any other party- so what else are we supposed to do?
hardly much less than NL; a coelition governemnt may have been a better idea. -
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(Original post by comadeep)
i'd heard about this
not many people seem to know anything about this at all
politicians are trying right now to circumvent the basic rights of magna carta
that means basically political dictatorship
if this gets through, it's time to leave the country.
seriously
have a look
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/...y_freedom.html
www.saveparliament.org.uk
They might agree with it for all we know, since they would stand to inherit it in the unlikely event of getting into power. -
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conservative had 33%?
hardly much less than NL; a coelition governemnt may have been a better idea. -
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And so let the Lib Dems choose who to form a coalition with?
just my view though, you probably all disagree. -
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Rest safe: let me tell you as a law student that there is NO chance the Lords will let this go through. The kind of dirty press coverage it would receive should the first chamber force it through via the Parliament Act would be political suicide.
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why lib dems? They got 22% of the vote, it should be Labour and Conservative (36 + 33 = 69% = a fairer majority of the whole population).
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Rest safe: let me tell you as a law student that there is NO chance the Lords will let this go through. The kind of dirty press coverage it would receive should the first chamber force it through via the Parliament Act would be political suicide.
Alternatively, as with ID cards, public opinion will not be a relevant consideration in the debate. -
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The Lords was fairly effective with ID cards.
But yes, the labour government (not exactly restrained by parliament) is constitutionally dangerous (as it is used to having large majorities).
I for one would be prepared to partake in organising student rebellions similar to those we have witnessed in France if parliament gets too lairy. -
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It depends how it was changed LH...!
Reform could just as easily weaken the Lords as strengthen it (Introducing a stronger Parliament Act for instance..!)
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