what would happen if people had a white or caucasian society at a university

I have no problem with different opinions at all. I have a problem with people who make points that address points I have never made.

Either you havent read it or you havent understood it.

No apologies necessary.




Not at all. I could go through all the white cultures I could name and name their attributes.. but then I have better things to do. If you choose to conclude its because I cant give you some FRENCH cultural attributes - then fine .. good for you. But I think you are in denial.

No Apologies needed.

Therefore assistance to people should be metered out in a similar way, based upon social circumstances, not on skin colour.

RELATIVELY similar in what way? This is what i want. Just give me a very clear definition of 'white culture'. One post. And no, 'the cultures of white people' will not suffice. Not exactly the kind of definition you would find in a dictionary now is it?

Nsme 5 things then lawz. Or 10? See, the great problem is that everyine shirks from this question, usually because they don't have many anwers.

They cant come up with any examples of "white culture", because they know full well that there isn't a "white" culture, just, as YOU said earlier, there isn't a "black" culture.

Agreed. Unfortunately there is still a strong correlation between poverty/social exclusion and belonging to an ethnic minority. However, this is getting off the point as I believe the OP was about societies at uni so I'll leave it there.

Probably bad examples, but I'm not studying culture - though it would be interesting. I'm just saying that there are definitely shared cultures within races.

I have no problem with different opinions at all. I have a problem with people who make points that address points I have never made.

Either you havent read it or you havent understood it.

No apologies necessary.




Not at all. I could go through all the white cultures I could name and name their attributes.. but then I have better things to do. If you choose to conclude its because I cant give you some FRENCH cultural attributes - then fine .. good for you. But I think you are in denial.

No Apologies needed.

Nsme 5 things then lawz. Or 10? See, the great problem is that everyine shirks from this question, usually because they don't have many anwers. They cant come up with any examples of "white culture", because they know full well that there isn't a "white" culture, just, as YOU said earlier, there isn't a "black" culture. If we use black in that context, of course. The problem is that "black" and "white" aren't used in the same context. Black is often used to reflect the culture and skin colour, whereas white is used soloey to show skin colour. Now, show me 5 examples of solely white culture? Just 5. And they cant have influences from other cultures, ebcause that wouldn't make them solely white. Or when you say white, do you mean WESTERN? I f so, don't use examples of buildings designed by Frenchmen, Dutch or German composers...... Just 5, yeah?

My God... you're proving my point with your own words. 'White cultures', not a single 'white culture' because you can't define it.

Sure there's Welsh, Irish, English, Russian, Polish, and if there were any such societies at my university I would be quite happy to see them there and I'd have no problem joining if I was interested in learning more about it. But 'White Culture' is a ridiculous notion. You can't even define it yourself. How laughable.

but have a look at your posts about whites being discriminated against in Trinidad and it's quite clear, you're giving the impression that there's some sort of white oppression going on, which anybody coming from Trinidad would flatly deny.

Huh? That's like saying you cant talk about History Books because they cover different topics.

Its simple sets and venn diagrams.

Hah, look what I found:

http://www.ueastudent.com/campaigns/campaignssites/liberations/black/intro

Some of their aims are stupid.



What has bhangra music got to do with black people?



What has Bollywood got to do with black people?



Blacks always bleat on about Black History Month. Why should black people get Black History Month when Jews don't get Jewish History Month, Asians don't get Asian History Month, etc.?

No doubt the only way one can enter this organisation is to be black/non-white. I bet whites cannot join.

Err, no it isn't. It's like saying you can talk about Welsh, Irish, Russian or Polish culture, but there is no such thing as a single defined 'white culture'. Simple.

it's there to represent cultures of certain natures

Cottonmouth, you've made this an almost impossible challenge by the clever use of exclusivity.........."Now, show me 5 examples of solely white culture"

Its virtually impossible to talk about even national culture if we try to do so from this angle. We could talk about British culture for example but I can't think of a single British cultural feature that is solely and exclusively British.

Culture as it pertains nations and/or races is a tricky subject but made near nigh impossible if we try to identify exclusive traits. I think we need to stick to commonalities for the sake of sanity.

Precisely Howard! It's impossible because there isn't a "white" culture is there? French culture is French, not "white" And it is different to British culture, even though the predominant colour of skin in both places is white.

The point we are trying to make is that a "white" society, for people with white skin at university is pathetic, given that there isn't a "white" culture, only french culture, or British culture, etc. And we have no problem with a society for British culture at a university. But some people on here are saying there should be "white societies" at university! What the hell would they do? Compare skin shades? Look at blank sheets of A4 paper?

This is such a simple concept to get.

There are Books on WW1, WW2, The Crimean, The peleponesian war, The War of the Roses, Churchill, The civil rights movement... etc etc etc...

They all deal with very different topics, and are thus, very much on separate events and in seperate groupings. However, they all deal with history - they have a common factor and thus, mathmatically can be expressed as a set: History books.

There is French white culture, Norwegian white culture, German white culture, Danish White culture etc etc etc...

They all have differnt attirbutes, but they all deal with cultures that were white. They have a common factor and thus, mathmatically can be expressed as a set: White Cultures.

Its really very very easy to understand.

This is such a simple concept to get.

There are Books on WW1, WW2, The Crimean, The peleponesian war, The War of the Roses, Churchill, The civil rights movement... etc etc etc...

They all deal with very different topics, and are thus, very much on separate events and in seperate groupings. However, they all deal with history - they have a common factor and thus, mathmatically can be expressed as a set: History books.

There is French white culture, Norwegian white culture, German white culture, Danish White culture etc etc etc...

They all have differnt attirbutes, but they all deal with cultures that were white. They have a common factor and thus, mathmatically can be expressed as a set: White Cultures.

Its really very very easy to understand.

Precisely Howard! It's impossible because there isn't a "white" culture is there? French culture is French, not "white" And it is different to British culture, even though the predominant colour of skin in both places is white.

The point we are trying to make is that a "white" society, for people with white skin at university is pathetic, given that there isn't a "white" culture, only french culture, or British culture, etc. And we have no problem with a society for British culture at a university. But some people on here are saying there should be "white societies" at university! What the hell would they do? Compare skin shades? Look at blank sheets of A4 paper?

ohhhh here we go again. I feel like I've just been telling you the same thing over and over again with no breakthrough. So we both acknowledge that there are countries where the majority of the population is white, and we can talk about different attributes of the cultures in those countries. But what is single 'white culture'?? You still haven't explained it. Because you can't. THAT is very very easy to understand.