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Malaysia would like the opinion of all representatives of the international community on the subject of China's joining of ASEAN. At the moment, the consensus is NO.

((forgive me if that's not the way stuff is done around here. I've never been in MUN before ))
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China has a lot of friends in ASEAN, and can see no reason why nations would have qualms if China decided to join. Indeed, we are pleased we have Malaysia's, along with other countries support on us joining ASEAN's Treay of Amity and Cooperation in June.
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India can see no reason why China should not join ASEAN. If Malaysia would care to state a reason why, India would be prepared to listen.
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Although Singapore values her ties with China, we firmly object to China's membership in this organisation, which as the name suggests, is largely regional in nature. The relatively small size and specificity of this organisation allows use to efficiently discuss and implement policies which are of immediate concern to the region.
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China is situated in the South East of Asia, and therefore India sees no reason why she should not be admitted to join this organisation.
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(Original post by brimstone)
China is situated in the South East of Asia, and therefore India sees no reason why she should not be admitted to join this organisation.
Uh, no. China is by geographical definition in East Asia.

China, South Korea, North Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan, etc = East Asia
Thailand, Myanmar, Laos, Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines, Malaysia, etc = South East Asia
India, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc = South Asia (arguably Central Asia?)

There is a thin dividing line.
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China's growth can be a huge oppertunity for all in the Asian-Pacific region. We see no reason why Vietnam can be a member but China which is immediately adjecent can not.
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China has a largely different focus from that of ASEAN. China has recently shown interest in the region, but until we actually see prolonged interest and action by the Chinese in South-East Asia, Singapore will remain firm in her stance on the issue.
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We do not have that radically a different focus, we are in tune with the rest of the region signified by the signing of the Treaty of Amity and Cooperation.
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(Original post by Nightowl)
We do not have that radically a different focus, we are in tune with the rest of the region signified by the signing of the Treaty of Amity and Cooperation.
China's interest in the region has only grown recently. ASEAN continues to be the driving force behind the development of the region.

We want to see a commitment from China - significant contributions to the region, before we agree.
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http://thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=212295
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Singapore is not going to let China buy her way into the region.

Next thing you know Japan will want to join us, then South Korea, then North Korea. :eek:

The entire purpose of ASEAN would be nullified.
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Singapore just said it wanted "significant contributions" to the region, then accused us of trying to buy our way in when we contribute.

China feels we are more affiliated with countries such as Malaysia than Japan. Afterall, it was Chinese Tin Prospectors who founded Kuala Lumpur, now Malaysia's capital, it was the Chinese who resided in Singapore before anybody, reports as early as the 3rd century vouch for that. China and South East Asia are inextricably bound, more than China and Japan ever could be. As the Singaporean Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong said to the ASEAN, "China's growth is a great oppertunity at all".

More ties between China and the ASEAN can only be a good thing, last year "China's total trade volume reached 1.42 trillion U.S. dollars, and more than half of the trade was with Asia." (Source - news.xinhuanet.com)
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Italy has no problems with China joining.
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Singapore would like to highlight that there are many more ways to contribute to the development of a region without using financial means.

We do not deny that China's growth is anything but beneficial to the region, but that does not automatically deem China suitable for membership in ASEAN.

We are willing to consider giving China observer status in ASEAN, but by no means will we concede to the immediate granting of membership in this exclusive organisation.
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How does Singapore suggest we "contribute" without using money?
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That's up to the Chinese government to figure out, no?

I'm not suggesting that you should only contribute without money. But indications are that China's interest in the region has only been ignited in recent times.

Demonstrate an interest by taking up observer status. By sending expert teams to assist in avian influenza research. By promoting trade and investment in south-east asia. By forming strong defence links with individual member countries. etc.

Anyhow to the Malaysian delegate, why haven't we discussed this internally (amongst ASEAN member countries) first! :p:
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China is more than willing to become an observer, and has expressed interest in this since 2004. We have offered out our Bird Flu-related-scientists resuts to make our research as open as possible, and we have opened offices in Malaysia, Singapore, and other countries to promote trade in this region. Aswell as this, we are promoting trade in the South East of Asia using our channels in APEC; the Asia-Europe Meeting; and the East Asia-Latin America. To accompany this, our growing presence in the WTO offers a great oppertunity to all of South East Asia.
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iceland thinks that it would be a good idea if China gets into the ASEAN. Especially the highly industrialized parts at China's east such as Pudong(shanghai) might help other countries to improve their technologies with the help of China!
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China thanks countries for their support.
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