I must say that doing voluntary work that you don't enjoy seems a bit cold-hearted. I'd say that more than any other EC activity you have to enjoy and get involved with voluntary work. Say I was living in a retirement home and a university student volunteered to come in and help me, I'd be distraught if I found out that they didn't really want to and were only doing it to put on their CV.
[QUOTE=Ethereal]Having trained volunteers, I can tell you that the WORST possible volunteer is the one who is only doing it for their CV. In order to get maximum benefit for the organization you are working for you need to be fully commited. PEople doing it for their CV tend to do the minimum required.[/QUOTE
you can be fully committed to something that u dnt enjoy.....im fully committed to my studies although alot of the time i do not enjoy them!! and i didnt say i would do it ONLY do it for my cv, by for the community as well, which u conveniently fogot to include. and i have done volunteering through my school that i did not particularly enjoy, but was fully committed to it as i knew that it would help the wider community. we are not all mother theresa, but we can still do our bit without necessarily being madly passionate about it.
Please note, the following recipe does not guarantee results and is merely advisory. Sense of humour and pinch of salt also helpful.
The Magic Formula~
Add a sparkling set of GCSE's...(reinforced by amazing results since Year 1.. at the very least your Year 2 project on the Ancient Egyptians should have gained you at least a gold star. At least. Your Year 3 "My Home Town" Poster should also have been displayed on the family fridge...)
Mix well with gleaming A levels.. (Note - do not add Law/Music/Dance/Theatre A level to the recipe at this stage as this well cause the mix to curdle...and you will die.)
Stir in a nice dash of over-edited and artificial Personal statement and generic references..
Drop a pinch of "100% UMS" and "Billy has been a pleasure to teach.."
Pile in generous quantities of gushing rubbish... "Justice has always been an intricate part of my DNA... The Law simply pulsates through my veins!"
Give the LNAT score a good shake, 20 should do it...
Choose a nice flavouring in the form of a University that has been approved by some snotty kid in his living room in Slough giving you advice over TSR...
Keep stirring the mix until you produce a nice healthy 2:1 or above...
Sprinkle in a generous amount of extra curriculars - (Note: You will be expected to have donated at least two vital bodily organs and volunteered with at least one endangered species...Preferably something dangerous. Yes, tigers will do.)
Pour in a large amount of daddy's contacts and mix well with mummy's dress sense,
You my friend, have your cake. Now go eat it.
i like ur style dreama lol
Or seeing as how were are "non-conformists trying to push others to conform to our non-conformist ethos" , we could just pick the quirkiest candidates and tell those we reject
"sorry you're just too non-conformist to our non-conformist ways"
I think that if you take up extra curriculars especially for your CV, it's unlikely you're going to be able to talk or write very passionately about them. I'm sure it's possible to fake it, but it has to be preferable to spend your spare time doing stuff that you actually enjoy.
Just another viewpoint:
At the end of the day, isnt Law and TCs the toughest of the lot? Arent there 1200 people applying for 20 jobs? (Random figure) Isnt it worth taking up an EC that you do not entirely "love" for the sake of it giving you that little bit of advantage when it comes to getting a TC? Obviously, if you absolutely detest a particular EC then taking it up for CV points may be questionable, but most ECs are not so terrible that you would hate with a passion. You may not love it, but you most likely wont hate it to its core either. If such is the case, isnt it worth, say, running for LawSoc President for the fact that it gives you that little bit of an extra mile that you need to beat out the other 500 who are after the same job as you?
Ethereal: I agree that people shouldnt do ECs that they absolutely despise merely for CV points. But the way you advocate only doing ECs that people consider fun, you make the presumption that all those people will get a good TC by merely doing the ECs that are "fun"; when in reality it is hardly the case. You may be someone who achieved it, but its unlikely that many of us will enjoy the same fate. At the end of the day, when you have to compete at the top level, you need to make certain sacrifices; sacrifices where sometimes all of us have to undertake some voluntary work that we may not particulary consider as fun, or, running for LawSoc Secretary that may not be the best way of spending time for us. After all, those ECs will give you that extra bit of edge that you need when competing so hard- whether we like it or not, we have to do certain things we dont like at some point in our lives. Giving a happy-go-lucky attitude of telling people "Do only Ecs that YOU consider fun and dont give two hoots about how your CV will look" is just wrong.
If you have read what I've put properly you will notice I observe many if not all ECs give transferable skills. It is all about what you do with them, and how you present them.
Clearly clubbing per se does not give transferable skills, but if you are the person always responsible for organizing outings and making sure everyone is safe it does.
This applies to many others .... rugby at first glance teaches you nothing for a job, however if you think about it it teaches you teamwork, communication, decision making and social skills. every player on the pitch is responsible for other people's saftey, therefore it teaches you responsibility as well.
Sewing .... teahces you attention to detail.
Rowing .... teamwork, planning, communication, drive, determination.
I could go on. As I have said MANY times you can get the skills you require whilst doing something you enjoy!
Alright then, lets take an example:
Two applicants A and B. A has been the LawSoc President, although, he has not had the greatest time of his life being so. He did not particularly love it, but still he went along with it for the fact that a) it teaches his some invaluable lessons b) it certainly does not hurt on a CV. B has been a fanatic of sewing since her tender ages, and had a very happy-go-lucky attitude, believed that if she did what she enjoyed, it'll come through for her. So she has sewing in her CV.
Who do you reckon will get the TC? A, who, albeit his lower passion for what he did, was the LawSoc President, or B, who, with immense passion, has sewing.
Its unquestionable that there will always be certain ECs that employers prefer than others, no matter how much you liked it or not. How many times in our lives have we done things that, although they were not particularly enjoyable, we did it because we thought we'd learn something from it, or it would help us in the future? Same principle. You dont have to go around ticking boxes of "LawSoc President" if you've hated responsibility all your life, but, if you dont have a passion against it, then why not go for it? Wont it help you in your future? Wont you learn some invaluable lessons off it?
The thing which concerns me is that say you take up an EC but don't go far in it ie don't become President of ...blah blah blah, or champion of ...sport, although you still have developed the skills, surely firms don't view as such as shining star? Sometimes it can be very difficult to achieve the top in a field in which is heavily opportunity based, I would therefore hope that any EC's would be looked upon favourably for the skills. I mean, in the long run, although it shows you have a commendable talent to have got so far in a certain field, it's not going to be enough to transform an inidividual into the best of the bunch for a TC. Personally I would believe that a strong degree and interview are more likely to turn the tables ultimately. Have i got completely the wrong end of stick?