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    Hey everyone

    This is my first post (i've posted this in the ucl thread too).

    Basically I'm really confused as to what I should choose.

    I have an offer from both ucl and kings:

    UCL: BA Politics and East European Studies - Offer: ABB
    KCL: BA War Studies - Offer: AAB


    I'm fairly certain I'll be able to make both offers so the grades arent an issue for me.

    Did any of you get into the same two courses?

    I'm tending to lean towards UCL but am still undecided at the moment

    Any one here accepted a firm offer from SSEES in BA Politics and East European Studies or the BA in War Studies?

    Let me know what you think,

    Thanks a lot.
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    KCL's War Studies course is world-renowned... go for that. UCL, as far as I know, isn't great at politics.

    Please please don't let this thread degenerate into a "UCL RAWKS!!11!!!!!11! We r teh l33t!!2!!"!§2" and "KCL OWZS!!$%4551111!!! OMG DON'T SAY THAT!!!1111!!!!"
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    I agree with you dschingis...the best thing for you to do cooldude is look carefully at the course in both colleges...what is on offer, how does it fit in with your orientation to the subjects, how much flexibility is there if your interests develop in another direction? Try to contact kids on each course right now and see what they think.
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    one of my almost-flatmates does war studies and it looks like a really interesting course... to make it even more fun its the war studies lot who get to organise the KCL ball! (hmmm... not that you'd have guessed with it being at the imperial war museam)
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    I know someone who is off to King's next year to do war studies, having spoken to him about it seems really interesting and v.different but incredibly well taught with plenty of opportunites open for him after graduation - so v.highly recommened.

    I am unsure about the UCL politics department, though it seems to be well thought of and has a good reputation. However, it may be worth taking into account that it's a joint degree and (so I have heard) they are not as well thought of in the employment sector and it's more worth while spending the time on one subject (though again I have only heard this from a few sources and am unsure about how true it is!!) I would assume that a lot of it would depend on personal preference for 1 (and most importantly) course and probably 2 the actual uni - though I don't think there is much difference between the two, I think that in this case the UCL v. KCL debate is fruitless as Dschingis said it sort of retracts from the point of the thread!
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    (Original post by Ovid)
    I know someone who is off to King's next year to do war studies, having spoken to him about it seems really interesting and v.different but incredibly well taught with plenty of opportunites open for him after graduation - so v.highly recommened.

    I am unsure about the UCL politics department, though it seems to be well thought of and has a good reputation. However, it may be worth taking into account that it's a joint degree and (so I have heard) they are not as well thought of in the employment sector and it's more worth while spending the time on one subject (though again I have only heard this from a few sources and am unsure about how true it is!!) I would assume that a lot of it would depend on personal preference for 1 (and most importantly) course and probably 2 the actual uni - though I don't think there is much difference between the two, I think that in this case the UCL v. KCL debate is fruitless as Dschingis said it sort of retracts from the point of the thread!
    That's not true. Doing a joint degree shows that you're capable of doing two subjects at once - and I'd say it's harder than a single subject. You're right in saying that the depth you attain in one subject wouldn't be the same if you did it as a single subject, but you've shown that you can switch from one to the other - esp. if the courses are widely different.

    Thecooldude's Eastern European studies will mean he has to study their economy, history, culture, literature, etc etc... and thus will gain more skills than if he simply did Politics BA.

    As a university course goes on, you specialize more and more (at least, I will be), which is what you'd be doing in a single-honours course anyway: but, you'd specialize in two subjects. Whoever said that a joint honours course is looked down on in employment circles is not right, nor wrong. If depth and greater understanding is what you want, go for single hons. If diversity and a wider range of skills is what you want, go for the joint hons.

    And in todays employment age, they're often more interested in your skills rather than your knowledge - thus joint hons is better.
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    "joint hons is better"

    april fools, right?
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    (Original post by 3.1415926535897)
    "joint hons is better"

    april fools, right?
    Put it in context, you fool.
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    (Original post by Dschingis)
    Put it in context, you fool.
    i did, but it was still 13 days ago :<
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    As in, the context of the sentence. You're not being particularly funny...
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    From what I've read SSEES isn't brilliant. It isn't bad but it's supposedly one of the lesser UCL departments. I also agree with what has been said already; politics isn't a strength of UCL in the same way that Law and Economics are. I'd probably go for the War Studies course. From what I gather it's more respected and I think it's probably more interesting.
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    Yeah there are some interesting points to be made about either one.

    As for university standings, I don't think theres any significant difference between the two - i.e. UCL and KCL are both good unis

    The War Department at King's is one of their better degree programs and one of the most well known departments at KCL

    SSEES tends to be more specialised, but is also one of the leading institutes in the world for East European Studies

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    This is from their website: ssees.ac.uk (the text in bold is done by me)

    The School of Slavonic and East European Studies is one of the world's leading specialist institutions, and the largest national centre in the UK, for the study of Central, Eastern and South-East Europe and Russia; it possesses one of the most important research libraries in its field.

    When it was founded in 1915, the School was a department of King's College. One of the first members of its staff was Professor Tomáš Garrigue Masaryk, later President of the Czechoslovak Republic. In 1932, it became an autonomous university institute within the federal University of London, and in August 1999 it merged with University College London.

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    (The SSEES used to be part of KCL!)

    Both are fairly unique in the UK - only a couple of unis have War/Peace departments in the UK and a couple have eastern european courses

    What attracts me to the UCL course is that I would have the opportunity to explore different areas - economics, politics and even sociology. Additionally not all of this is geared directly at Eastern Europe. But I also find Eastern Europe really interesting and wouldn't mind studing that region. I would also be able to learn a language ab inito (should I wish to).

    War Studies is fairly concentrated in that respect (although there are a couple of modules you can choose from)

    What put me off at the interview at KCL is that most people were interested in the Ministry of Defence (MoD). Some were already in regiments and the army was paying for their undergraduate course. Others were planning to join after they graduated (not as in infantry but in other areas - e.g. intelligence).

    This is from talking to current 2nd years at KCL in the War Department and not the prospective students that were there at the interview stage.

    This is not to say that EVERYONE on the course in interested in joining the MoD but a significant number are (or atleast that's the impression I got). This is something that I don't find appealing. Personally, I am not interested in joining the MoD in any form.

    I find it quite a tough decision....:confused:

    Plus I found the UCL campus better

    Both KCL and UCL had great atmospheres when I visited

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    I'd have to say that the War Studies course is incredibly varied - from what I understand from War Studying friends, there are modules ranging from Terrorism to Psychology in War... it sounded seriously interesting. What's more, they're constantly discussing it; they genuinely enjoy it, and they're not geeks or anything.

    If you liked the UCL campus better, then I suppose you should choose UCL - in the end, you'll be studying reasonably similar things in Politics, and War Studies - but I still think you should go in for the joint honours course at UCL, due to my reasons given above. Also, if you learn a language (even if it is ab inito) you'll be in the same bracket as engineers are... as linguists and engineers are short on the ground these days, and will be snapped up fairly quickly by employers.
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    ok great thanks

    I'm around 99% sure that I'm going to accept UCL's offer as my firm choice!
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    Why don't you put KCL down as your firm and UCL as your insurance and if you make up your mind about it, you can always ask King's to release you. Just in case that you change your mind in the summer.
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    really? I didn't know that was possible...

    I thought once you accepted a firm offer then you are legally obliged to go that that university provided you meet their entry conditions (as in if you decide that you are going to go to university you have to go there...you can always just decide not to go to university that year)
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    Why don't you put KCL down as your firm and UCL as your insurance and if you make up your mind about it, you can always ask King's to release you. Just in case that you change your mind in the summer.
    Not a great idea. UCAS can stuff you up, your accomodation form to UCL isn't given as much priority etc.
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    yeah that's what I thought
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    (Original post by President_Ben)
    Not a great idea. UCAS can stuff you up, your accomodation form to UCL isn't given as much priority etc.
    Accomodation. Good point. Haven't thought about this one.
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    haven't even accepted my offers yet or sent in an accomodation form so it's okay
 
 
 
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