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    (Original post by quinnbrakes)
    if ur parents hadn't been to uni etc..
    How do they know this? :confused:
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    (Original post by fishpaste)
    There are libraries, he can read. Or perhaps he might go and do some voluntary work etc.
    That doesn't answer the question at all. It does not show how he can overcome the boundary of getting higher than the state school kid with straight As because the max you can get is an A. Both kids probably have very good extra currics etc, but this is not about that, if a private school kid is always expected to out perform a state school kid due to supposed better teaching, what is he supposed to do to beat 4 As? He can only achieve those grades, not get higher. Sure he can do more a- levels, but many schools can't timetable this in, so there is a limit to the number you can take.
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    (Original post by fishpaste)
    And how many times do you have to be told that there are more ways of showing your academic ability than getting an A?

    If it helps think of it as a continuous scale
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    UUU         AAA     AAA + extra study off syllabus.
    TBH pretty much ALL the AAA+ candidates I know do loads of extra stuff off the syllabus, in terms of study. I think there is a limit to the amount of extra study you can do before you overload yourself mentally and have a breakdown. Most of your posts seem to suggest private school goers should be lifting up trucks and carrying them across Europe, just to prove that they are better, but you gotta remember that there are only 24 hours in a day.
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    is it the role of universities/oxbridge to readdress the social injustice tho?
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    (Original post by BossLady)
    TBH pretty much ALL the AAA+ candidates I know do loads of extra stuff off the syllabus, in terms of study. I think there is a limit to the amount of extra study you can do before you overload yourself mentally and have a breakdown. Most of your posts seem to suggest private school goers should be lifting up trucks and carrying them across Europe, just to prove that they are better, but you gotta remember that there are only 24 hours in a day.
    You may have a point but youre never going to get a perfect
    system. As you right wingers like to point out, thats life

    Lets face it, if a few public school ppl are rejected from Oxbridge unfairly because of a bit of positive discrimination, that is nowhere near as bad as the current situation where 95% of ppl go to state schools yet they are only getting about 55% of oxbridge places!

    Even if you believe that there is a greater concentration of intelligent ppl in public schools (they are slightly selective for ability after all)
    you CANNOT BE SERIOUS if you think students chosen from a mere 5% of the population have so much inate intelligence to deserve 45% of the places!

    If you dont like positive discrimination what other way do you suggest to bring about a fairly rapid and very substantial increase in the numbers of state schoolers?
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    Lets face it, if a few public school ppl are rejected from Oxbridge unfairly because of a bit of positive discrimination, that is nowhere near as bad as the current situation where 95% of ppl go to state schools yet they are only getting about 55% of oxbridge places!

    Apologies if this sounds personally offensive smaug, but to be blunt if ONE person is being officially discriminated against for going to a private school, that is one more person than is being discriminated against at the moment for any reason. If you are prepared to sanction ANYONE being 'unfairly rejected' then you as a person are morally reprehensible - no-one should EVER be discriminated against.

    Oh I hear you cry in your battle against social evils, but state school pupils are being discriminated against; I ask you to look at the facts before spouting the same tired rhetoric - their applications are considered in all the circumstances, and allowances are taken into account for background for the individual. This is fair. It happens. As to bringing about 'a fairly rapid and very substantial increase in the numbers of state schoolers', perhaps improving the state schools education and encouragement might be an answer? Or is that too dificult when it is so much easier to be 'unfair'?

    Rejecting anyone for any reason other than their merits is utterly unjust. Discrimination is morally and socially unacceptable in any circumstances, and is illegal.

    Calls to impose it are pathetic. Be ashamed.
 
 
 
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