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can you realistically get into a decent uni for a maths/engineering degree without firther maths? i am wondering becasue im thinking about doing this (leaning towwards the maths) and dont really want to do AS further maths, as its only 2 AS applied modules and one quite simple pure one, and it really doesnt seem to be worth the bother.

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Of course you can! Further maths may boost your application a tiny but, but you can very well do Engineering even at Oxford without Further Maths.
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Yes, definitely. Couple friends of mine are doing Maths at Imperial with me. Neither of which did F Maths.

They'll certainly ask for a high offer though. And if you do get in, it's gonna be hard work. But possible.
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If you're thinking about maths or a physical science subject at a good uni then I'm surprised you're not taking up the AS Further Maths option if it's available to you - or even A2.

Whether doing a maths or physical science degree there will be a lot of maths in it and AS/A2 Further Maths will make that transition easier. But more than that, you'll almost certainly enjoy it a lot more than A-level maths.

There are people on TSR who say that not having Further Maths made the difference in their not getting into a certain uni - whether the unis have said that, or that what's being surmised, why take the chance and be left thinking "what if" should things not work out.

People do go to the top unis without further maths, but usually only when the opportunity's not been there. Will you have to drop things you enjoy if you take FM?
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(Original post by RichE)
If you're thinking about maths or a physical science subject at a good uni then I'm surprised you're not taking up the AS Further Maths option if it's available to you - or even A2.

Whether doing a maths or physical science degree there will be a lot of maths in it and AS/A2 Further Maths will make that transition easier. But more than that, you'll almost certainly enjoy it a lot more than A-level maths.

There are people on TSR who say that not having Further Maths made the difference in their not getting into a certain uni - whether the unis have said that, or that what's being surmised, why take the chance and be left thinking "what if" should things not work out.

People do go to the top unis without further maths, but usually only when the opportunity's not been there. Will you have to drop things you enjoy if you take FM?
I have to diagree with you there. I know 3 people studying Engineering at Oxford now (well, 2 Engineering and 1 EEM), and neither of them did Further Mathematics. All did physics, chemistry, mathematics, and economics. Yes, FM was offered at my school.
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I have to diagree with you there. I know 3 people studying Engineering at Oxford now (well, 2 Engineering and 1 EEM), and neither of them did Further Mathematics. All did physics, chemistry, mathematics, and economics. Yes, FM was offered at my school.
Sorry I should have been more specific - the last comment referred to maths students (which is after all the way the OP is leaning). I know that around 50% of Oxford Physics students don't have FM - but even there it remains the case that the transition to uni has been much easier for those with it.
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Sorry I should have been more specific - the last comment referred to maths students (which is after all the way the OP is leaning). I know that around 50% of Oxford Physics students don't have FM - but even there it remains the case that the transition to uni has been much easier for those with it.
Ah yes, I don't know anyone doing Maths at Oxford, so I can't comment on that.

And I definitely agree what FM will east the transition.
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Sorry I should have been more specific - the last comment referred to maths students (which is after all the way the OP is leaning). I know that around 50% of Oxford Physics students don't have FM - but even there it remains the case that the transition to uni has been much easier for those with it.
Of the Queens 2nd years my friend mentioned his brother was the only one who hadn't done A2 Further Maths.
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Note: That is Physicists
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Find some way of doing AS F.Maths. Bare in mind many students that do not have the opportunity, still manage to do it in their own time.

And also I thought in AS F.Maths you could do FP2, or even FP3 as well? According to the Edexcel website for AS F.Maths you must do FP1 plus ANY other two units (except for C1-C4).
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(Original post by mrsmiley)
can you realistically get into a decent uni for a maths/engineering degree without firther maths? i am wondering becasue im thinking about doing this (leaning towwards the maths) and dont really want to do AS further maths, as its only 2 AS applied modules and one quite simple pure one, and it really doesnt seem to be worth the bother.
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This doesn't really seem to make sense to me.

For a start, you don't have to do 2 AS applied modules. You could do FP2 and FP3 as well. Or you could do more Mechanics, which I presume you enjoy if you're thinking of engineering (?).

Secondly, if they're really AS modules and a "simple" pure one, then it's not going to be a lot more work. In fact, you could do the whole A2.

And if it's not the amount of work putting you off, then why is it not worth the bother?

Basically, I'd really recommend doing it. You'll probably enjoy it and it'll be really useful too.
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I'm doing AS FM with FP1, FP3 and D1 so you can mix and match i think. You could probably do 3 pure and no applied modules if you wanted...
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If your school offers it you should do it. Also if you're going to apply for maths you should do as much pure as you can - ask your school if they can accomodate this.
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Further Maths isn't absolutely vital for a Mathematics Degree but if you have the opportunity to take it then certainly do so. It will perhaps make the transition a little easier, though much of University Mathematics will be quite different in style from what you've done before (as well as much more interesting).
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