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    In the past year and a half, too many people that I know, some of them very close friends, have had what could have been major accidents when driving.

    • One person has rolled his car completely
    • One person has flipped her car onto its side
    • One person has spun off the road and smashed into a tree
    • Two people have collided into the back of another car, one travelling at 50mph


    Fortunately, nobody was seriously hurt (or even remotely hurt, in fact) in any of these accidents, but the cars were write-offs and they obviously could have been a lot worse. So please just remember to be extra careful, and also to check your tyres because two (possibly three) of these accidents were caused by tyres bursting!
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    I think if you people manage to do that there is probably something wrong with your driving :rolleyes:

    But yeah, the tire thing is a good point
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    Same here mate. Good girl friend died in November 05 in Leicester due to her tyre popping. Her car rolled, she smashed her head against the tarmac as it did causing the fatal injuries.

    Problem was though, had she had a Phase III car and not the phase II, she would of most liekly survived due to the side airbags.

    Unfortunately you can preach the dangers on the road all you like; it just won't really increase the caution. I can only say what happened was a catastrophe; a major one for such a young girl. However, I dont dwell on what happened and how it happened and have continued to drive as I did before. Its up to the car manufacturers to get the safety of their cars safe enough so something liek this doesn't happen without paying through the roof for these refinements.
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    I've been in cars before when the tyres have popped, you usualy have to be doing very high speed round corners or somthing similar for that to happen.

    I am not saying these people were speeding but if they were it would have made the accident a lot worse. It is somthing certain members might want to think about before doing 100mph on A roads.

    I live in the city so pretty much all the accidents I have known have involved traffic lights.
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    AT - the girl I'm on about, her tyre popped at a reported 50mph. There were roadworks half mile back and it was thought that something may have interfered with the tyre during that run.

    All news articles have now ceased and become void, so can't show you report. Very wierd how her death doesn't even have any write up on it. Gone and forgotten it seems. Thats what I hate.
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    One of my mums friend died in a biking accident, he wasn#t speeding and it wasn't his fault, car pulled out in front of him, again there would be very little on it on the internet.

    My dad had a blowout at 70mph in his Lada, we were probably lucky we survived that.

    It sounds like your friend was involved in a freak accident.
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    My mum had a blowout when we were on the motorway to Aberdeen when we had just driven past roadworks; that was kind of terrifying.
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    (Original post by AT82)
    I am not saying these people were speeding but if they were it would have made the accident a lot worse. It is somthing certain members might want to think about before doing 100mph on A roads...
    Oh for god's sake...

    It sounds like your friend was involved in a freak accident.
    Yep. Accidents happen...

    Tyres bursting is something that you really cant prepare for (unless you use run-flats). And one of the unfortunate (and slightly ironic) things about the high price of insurance is that newer, safer cars are often out of reach of newer drivers, despite them being the people most likely to have accidents :rolleyes:

    But even so, you *do* have to go some to roll/flip a car.
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    Most road tyres can go alot faster than the top speed of the car before they disintegrate. Going 100mph will NOT cause your tyres to blow out as long as they are in good condition and have over 1.8mm of tread left (i know the limit is 1.6mm, just don't want to go that low!) and are properly inflated.

    Tyre blow outs are usually caused by a)foreign objects b) old tyres with cracks or c) worn tyres. Rarely speed actually causes the blow out, just at higher speeds obviously you have more of a problem if you have one.

    Remember that those 4 black circular thingies on each corner is all that is keeping you from going round that corner and hitting the tree. Look after your tyres if nothing else, they are that important.

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    Look after your tracking even more so. That goes and you have worn tyres on the outside edge, that is far more liable to blow. The heat is generates at fast speeds, is more liable to pop especially when putting pressure on the tyre cornering.

    I always thought you had to go some to flip a car. But 53mph (I think) in a straight line on a motorway with the tyre blowing. Her car rolled. It was also a Gti6, so there is no way in hopes hell there was a problem with the cars setup, especially as her Mum was a garage owner.
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    My friend apparently flipped his car at 30mph, i think he is a lying **** and meant to say 40, but still you would be surprised at the forces that you get at just 30mph. I mean you will have in excess of 60G when you stop from 30. Do not underestimate the danger at any speed, you can die at 30mph just as much as you can die at 200mph. The likelihoods are different but it is still possible.

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    (Original post by gbduo)
    ...I mean you will have in excess of 60G when you stop from 30....
    Do you really mean 60G?
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    (Original post by Dickie)
    Do you really mean 60G?
    I think it's more than possible, a quick search shows it could be anything from 40 G to 100 G.

    According to wikipedia (so don't take it as fact!!!):

    Involuntarily: Formula One race car driver David Purley survived an estimated 179.8 g in 1977 when he decelerated from 107 mph (172 km/h) to 0 in a distance of 26 inches (66 cm) after his throttle got stuck wide open and he hit a wall.
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    My point was that if you're doing 100mph and you have a blow out the g force will be much greater than if you were doing 60.

    My dad had a blow out in his Lada, there was a loud rumbeling sound and a really strong smell of burning rubber, he was doing 70 at the time. When he got out you could see the tyre all over the motorway.
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    I live in a flat next to a fairly busy junction and I get to see a LOT of silly mistakes drivers make. It really scares me because they could all lead to injuries.

    I haven't been on the road for a while due to anxiety about driving - I've been hit by a kid who was taking his dad's car out for a spin, thing is I was on my bike and my leg got crushed and burnt by my exhaust. Nothing serious, but it almost happened again when an angry woman in a car tried to intimidate me to get out of a parking space by reversing towards me and stopping inches away from my font tyre.

    Both pointless - the kid simply wasn't looking, and the woman was just angry because she wanted my space even though there were other spaces for her.

    Near my flat I see bikes getting hit from behind (Oer!) by cars, ouch. Pointless, just keep your eyes in front. Also see cars getting angry at cyclists and bikers for slowing them down, again, uneccesary agression which sometimes leads to trouble (as in my case).

    People are crazy, you can be the safest driver in the world on your own, but someone else can mess it all up for you. I hate having to 'watch out for the driver who didn't see me' crap as well... :mad:

    Chill out, be mindful of other people, realise that you're not going to save time by beeping at other drivers, save the racing for the track, routinely check the critical parts of your vehicle, and only take risks when it won't endager others - whats so difficult about doing all those? Hmm, tis quite a long list.

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    (Original post by pghstochaj)
    Involuntarily: Formula One race car driver David Purley survived an estimated 179.8 g in 1977 when he decelerated from 107 mph (172 km/h) to 0 in a distance of 26 inches (66 cm) after his throttle got stuck wide open and he hit a wall.
    :eek: :eek: :eek:
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    (Original post by AT82)
    My point was that if you're doing 100mph and you have a blow out the g force will be much greater than if you were doing 60.

    My dad had a blow out in his Lada, there was a loud rumbeling sound and a really strong smell of burning rubber, he was doing 70 at the time. When he got out you could see the tyre all over the motorway.
    The primary safety issue there is having a Lada, doing 60 or 70 or even 100 mph is secondary.
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    The other night I was in my friend's car and she didn't look before pulling out onto a roundabout...nearly causing a car to plough into us(luckily she swerved!)....it was SO scary.

    Another of my friends was misjudged a corner one night and smashed into a lampost.Her car was totally written off and it was so lucky that no one was injured
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    A friend of mine had a tire blow out while going round a bend in a country lane. Ended up upside down in a ditch. Luckily he had his seatbelt on and was mostly fine.
    The policeman who came to the scene said he'd just come from a nearly identical wreck, but the driver wasn't wearing a seatbelt and the outcome was a lot messier.
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    Imagine being the bird...

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    There was a horrific crash on the M6 southbound today up near Keele services - one person dead and 3 seriously injured, it closed the motorway for 2+ hours...

    One car had been crushed so badly the rear end was bent around at a right angle - ie the taillights were facing out from the drivers door, and the roof had been cut off... very nasty indeed. It was obvious the moment you saw it, it was a fatal one.

    Seeing things like that makes you think about speed etc and whether it is worth risking your life and the people in other cars life to just go a little bit faster, in my car especially (escort), it is built to go fast, but it is not built to stop fast and it is not built to be safe either.
 
 
 
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