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    As I'm sure many of you know, the current Year 12 (AS year) will be required to declare ALL module grades obtained on UCAS.

    What's your view - is it right that people who genuinely do better in AS/A2 levels get seen to be better, or does it put too much weight on the exams that we're taking? Does this mean that GCSE results become relatively even more insignificant?


    Your views please!

    [It's like a debate, except I put it in A-levels, since it seems to fit better here ]
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    is it right that people who genuinely do better in AS/A2 levels get seen to be better
    Yes, why shouldn't they?

    GCSE results become relatively even more insignificant?
    Personally I think they should become less significant (although I may be slightly biased). AS levels are harder so should be more highly regarded for starters but more importantly most people choose A levels related to the subject they'll go onto study at university and so I would think they would be better indicators in how they would do in that subject specifically.
    Of course there will be people who take A levels unrelated to what they go on to study at university and maybe then GCSE could be given more weight.
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    You guys might want to read President_Ben's post in this thread;

    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=215395
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    ^^ How reassuring!!

    UCAS are a total joke!
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    I think it's a really good idea. Universities still won't be able to see UMS marks, which in my opinion would be even better, but it's obvious that someone who got an A at AS with AAA in their 3 modules got a higher score than someone with an A at AS but ABB in the modules. This would help universities to make their decisions and also perhaps solve the problem of inaccurate predicted grades. If someone was only predicted a B for a subject at A-level but had got AAA in their 3 modules at AS, the university might be less likely to care about the prediction. Similarly, if a student had begged to be predicted a C at A-level but had only got DEE in their AS modules, the university would take the prediction with a pinch of salt. As for makiing GCSEs less important, it probably would, but I think that's a good thing. At GCSE you have to study about 10 subjects, some of which you'll hate and not be very good at, so you may end with average grades. At A-level you might go on to excel because you only take your favourite and best subjects, and if they're relevant to what you want to do at uni, I don't see why below average GCSEs should hold you back.
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    How about schools which do A-levels all in one go?
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    so will we have to show all marks? even the ones you first did which were total crap! can you not just put forward the re taken modeule mark?
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    (Original post by bobmarley988)
    so will we have to show all marks? even the ones you first did which were total crap! can you not just put forward the re taken modeule mark?
    It's really very fuzzy now.

    Wait until the applications cycle draws nearer, and the details will be elucidated.
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    (Original post by kellywood_5)
    I think it's a really good idea. Universities still won't be able to see UMS marks, which in my opinion would be even better, but it's obvious that someone who got an A at AS with AAA in their 3 modules got a higher score than someone with an A at AS but ABB in the modules. This would help universities to make their decisions and also perhaps solve the problem of inaccurate predicted grades. If someone was only predicted a B for a subject at A-level but had got AAA in their 3 modules at AS, the university might be less likely to care about the prediction. Similarly, if a student had begged to be predicted a C at A-level but had only got DEE in their AS modules, the university would take the prediction with a pinch of salt. As for makiing GCSEs less important, it probably would, but I think that's a good thing. At GCSE you have to study about 10 subjects, some of which you'll hate and not be very good at, so you may end with average grades. At A-level you might go on to excel because you only take your favourite and best subjects, and if they're relevant to what you want to do at uni, I don't see why below average GCSEs should hold you back.
    sorry, but what are UMS marks?
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    (Original post by Knogle)
    It's really very fuzzy now.

    Wait until the applications cycle draws nearer, and the details will be elucidated.
    ok, thanks, just bit worried about having to submit old modules!:eek:
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    (Original post by bobmarley988)
    sorry, but what are UMS marks?
    UMS = Uniform Mark Scheme, AFAIK.
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    (Original post by Knogle)
    UMS = Uniform Mark Scheme, AFAIK.
    errr.....lol...whats that?lol
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    (Original post by bobmarley988)
    errr.....lol...whats that?lol
    Basically, your raw marks, ie the marks you get on the actual exam or piece of coursework, are adjusted according to how hard it was and how well everyone else did. That's why even if an exam or piece of coursework is out of 60, the result you get on your slip will be out of 90, 100, 105 or 120 because this is the UMS mark. All AS levels are out of 300 in UMS marks and all A levels out of 600.
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    oooooo ok, now i understand. makes sense now because i did c1 in janurary and the paper was out of 75 but the mark i recieved was out of a 100. so would this latter mark be the one i send off to the unis? thanks.
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    I don't agree, if they want to be more specific with applications they should make the final UMS available i.e a mark /600.

    It's too much unnecesary stress for every exam. 16-18s shouldn't have this kinda **** at their age.
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    (Original post by stratomaster)
    I don't agree, if they want to be more specific with applications they should make the final UMS available i.e a mark /600.

    It's too much unnecesary stress for every exam. 16-18s shouldn't have this kinda **** at their age.
    I disagree. If a person got two As in the first two modules but then completly screwed up the last one and got a D, the overall UMS mark would indicate that that person was a B grade student.

    However, if the marks are given for each module the University would be able to see that they were in fact a good student and they had just messed up one of their modules. So the person would be more likely to get in to a better university.
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    I dunno, I think that for someone going into year 12 being told that if they want to get into the top unis they have to do well in all their exams is just gonna cause way too much unnecessary stress. And anyway, if you did get As in all your AS modules, just do what I did and put it in your personal statement. I personally think the problem should be solved by making As harder to get rather than demanding more consistency. I mean no matter how you've done in your modules, if you end up with an A overall you've still got 80% of the questions right, and if too many people are getting that to be able to differentiate then surely the problem is that the questions are too easy.
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    (Original post by bobmarley988)
    oooooo ok, now i understand. makes sense now because i did c1 in janurary and the paper was out of 75 but the mark i recieved was out of a 100. so would this latter mark be the one i send off to the unis? thanks.
    Yes, although as far as I know universities are only asking for module grades at the moment as opposed to marks.
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    (Original post by kellywood_5)
    Yes, although as far as I know universities are only asking for module grades at the moment as opposed to marks.
    ohh, ok, thats not too bad, most people who get As in their AS generaly get As in all their modules anyway. thats what unis are probably after, consistency. thanks again.
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    (Original post by datr)
    I disagree. If a person got two As in the first two modules but then completly screwed up the last one and got a D, the overall UMS mark would indicate that that person was a B grade student.

    However, if the marks are given for each module the University would be able to see that they were in fact a good student and they had just messed up one of their modules. So the person would be more likely to get in to a better university.
    I suppose you're right. It's not so bad if they ask for the grade, but if they did ask for the module UMS marks in the future I think it'd create a lot of unnecessary stress.
 
 
 
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