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Chivalry

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Chivalry

roxy potter

13

Opinions from guys and girls please,
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Reply 1

Shéamais

11

Being a future army officer (hopefully) and very traditional - yes.

Reply 2

TKR

15

meh well i dont really need to do it as i dont need girls to like me

but if it was required to get laydeez id be pretty cheesed off as the whole thing smacks of hypocrisy - equality and all that

Reply 3

roxy potter

OP

13

TKR

meh well i dont really need to do it as i dont need girls to like me

but if it was required to get laydeez id be pretty cheesed off as the whole thing smacks of hypocrisy - equality and all that

That's really interesting actually.Im not a feminist but I was talking about this with my friend the other day and we basically came to the conclusion that if you are a feminist you're not really entitled to expect chivalry.

Having said that, I am for equality. But the fact that a guy doesn't have to hold doors open etc. makes it seem nicer when they do.

Reply 4

El Scotto

15

Im a feminist. I'm happy being bought beer.

Reply 5

Who?

1

Yes

Reply 6

Adarah

16

i think people should have manners and be polite and friendly to anyone regardless of their sex, lol. I hold open door for guys :P

Reply 7

black_mamba

14

roxy potter

That's really interesting actually.Im not a feminist but I was talking about this with my friend the other day and we basically came to the conclusion that if you are a feminist you're not really entitled to expect chivalry.

Having said that, I am for equality. But the fact that a guy doesn't have to hold doors open etc. makes it seem nicer when they do.

'I'm not a feminist but...' Oh dear, always a warning sign!

Feminism isn't about hating men. Feminists want equality too (yeah I know, a fuzzy concept at best) - so I don't undertand how they shouldnt expect chivalry. *shrug*

On the other hand, chivalry is a load of dog feces; why not just swap the term for politeness and respect? Like Adarah says - it should be regardless of sex.

Reply 8

jb_sweden

black_mamba

Feminism isn't about hating men.

Anyhows, chivalry - of course.

Reply 9

black_mamba

14

Did I get it wrong, or are you just tired of hearing that statement?

Reply 10

Amnesia

2

I would have voted Yes but I have found most women are quite ungrateful when you help them, almost if they expect you to do it. On top of this they also want positive discrimination and equal opportunities and at the same time expect men to partake in chivalry. It is a bit hypocritical.

Reply 11

Debussy

1

manners are never out of fashion.

Reply 12

puppy

Amnesia

I would have voted Yes but I have found most women are quite ungrateful when you help them, almost if they expect you to do it. On top of this they also want positive discrimination and equal opportunities and at the same time expect men to partake in chivalry. It is a bit hypocritical.

I said that in one thread and got neg repped for setting women back 60 years. Glad it's not just me who sees that women can't make up their minds.

Reply 13

black_mamba

14

The problem is you see women as a collective whole; how one earth can a few billion humans agree on anything?

Reply 14

bluedreamer

1

Adarah

i think people should have manners and be polite and friendly to anyone regardless of their sex, lol. I hold open door for guys :P

Agreed.

Reply 15

Debussy

1

i don't know, i'd say i'm a feminist because i believe that women have the right to vote and get equal pay. but i always notice when a man opens a door for me or offers to pay for a meal and i like to think that whilst not being 'grateful', as if it was charitable help, that they know i appreciate the way that they treat me.

Reply 16

Lady_Muck

14

Chivalry rocks.

Boyfriend is always opening doors, buys my drinks, treats me to dinner, always makes sure I'm sorted before he is etc. It's so lovely....I don't think it hurts to make an effort with manners etc.

Reply 17

puppy

Lady_Muck

Chivalry rocks.

Boyfriend is always opening doors, buys my drinks, treats me to dinner, always makes sure I'm sorted before he is etc. It's so lovely....I don't think it hurts to make an effort with manners etc.

People buying you stuff doesn't really amount to manners- that's just someone having more money than you or trying to 'buy' something from you. I hope you don't let the poor guy waste all his money on you without you returning the favour.

Reply 18

Alexander

12

black_mamba

On the other hand, chivalry is a load of dog feces; why not just swap the term for politeness and respect? Like Adarah says - it should be regardless of sex.

I think this really depends on what you mean by the word. For the term chivalry to have any use, it has to mean something more than the behaviour which you would expect from any polite person of either sex. Thus I would consider it as some kind of extra politeness or special behaviour towards women from men, which they wouldn't show to other men.

Reply 19

roxy potter

OP

13

To me chivalry means a guy just going that bit out of the way to look after you, basically because you are a girl that he respects, be it by opening doors or whatever. I know its a bit old fashioned of me.
I feel sorry about the fact that guys think girls take it for granted, I always appreciate and make it show, but I know there are a lot of girls who don't.