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Is Law an overrated subject??

Just asking cos quite a lot of people on this board are applying to study it including me. But, I've been involved in the Law for some time now (work in the area and all that!)and the theoretical side of it is not quite like the practice of it..
My days included no life... no weekends or evenings to myself cos I'm prpearing cases, statements, skel arguments, attending court or tribunals. Man is it stressful sometimes. A couple of Barristers the other day laughed when I said I wanted to go to the Bar. They said fine if you want no paid holidays, sick pay, low pay, etc. Of course, I knew all this. But most Barristers I come into contact with aren't highly paid and are just knackered most of the time!!
XX Sorry for any typos in a hurry!!
Reply 1
Law is one of the best degrees to do. It is a prestigious subject and is necessary if you want to go into the profession. Law is a professional job, like teaching and medicine.
Reply 2
hornblower
Law is one of the best degrees to do. It is a prestigious subject and is necessary if you want to go into the profession. Law is a professional job, like teaching and medicine.


i agree
Reply 3
I think youve totally missed the point of what she said..
Reply 4
and its not necessary a legal job, becuase you can do the conversion course :tongue:
Reply 5
ellel
Just asking cos quite a lot of people on this board are applying to study it including me. But, I've been involved in the Law for some time now (work in the area and all that!)and the theoretical side of it is not quite like the practice of it..
My days included no life... no weekends or evenings to myself cos I'm prpearing cases, statements, skel arguments, attending court or tribunals. Man is it stressful sometimes. A couple of Barristers the other day laughed when I said I wanted to go to the Bar. They said fine if you want no paid holidays, sick pay, low pay, etc. Of course, I knew all this. But most Barristers I come into contact with aren't highly paid and are just knackered most of the time!!
XX Sorry for any typos in a hurry!!


Well, what they said is true. Even the top-notch lawyers live a life like that. It's quite dead... routine.. whatever you called it.

So before you plunge yourself into law, i reckon that one should consider why she/he wants to read law? If it's peer pressure or parents' pressure, then you can probably forget about.

If you thinking of upholding justice & saving people sort of stuffs. I urge you to become a doctor instead. The first day I entered into the classroom, my lecturer told me, Law is never fair. When I read contract law, I was told, moral obligation does not equate to legal obligation as well...

Only read law, if you have the passion. Imagine the chunks of cases i need to remember for contract as well as criminal... Merely 1 topic for contract, i can remember up to 20 cases. That does not include how hours & hours of research time i have put into finding the material... and dealing with the highly controlversial text between the authors...

Conclusion.. read law if you have the passion. I am serious.
Reply 6
Yes, law is a severely overrated degree. Law is extremely oversubscribed, and it seems that this is partly due to students from low-paricipation backgrounds competing with each other for the places. There seems to be a myth in certain sectors that the only/best way to get into the law profession is by studying law as an undergraduate, and this means that many otherwise able candidates miss out on places at the top institutions because they fail to recognise that there are other ways in.
Reply 7
The problem with Law is any tin-pot institution can offer it thus devaluing the degree unlike Medicine where the standard is constantly high. Two people can have Law degrees but if one is from Bradford and the other from Manchester you can get a good idea as to who would be the more suitable candidate.

Having said that I met someone last night who was let into Birmingham for Medicine with ABB and apparantly some get in with BBB.

If "you" are going to do Law with a view to legal practice you must do it at a red brick or one of the more respected polys. You must also get atleast a 2:1 or at the very worst a top 2:2 otherwise you are wasting your time.
Reply 8
hildabeast
There seems to be a myth in certain sectors that the only/best way to get into the law profession is by studying law as an undergraduate, and this means that many otherwise able candidates miss out on places at the top institutions because they fail to recognise that there are other ways in.


If one find out that he/she develop a passion for law, she can always easily do a conversion course in the future... but....

If you read law at university level, it's hard, say, to switch to a banker per se.

I'm not saying law is not flexible... it is but only to a certain extent...
nisi.. you are telling me that you want to become another Master of Roll like Lord Denning, then I say Law is definitely the way to be.
Reply 9
hornblower
Law is one of the best degrees to do. It is a prestigious subject and is necessary if you want to go into the profession. Law is a professional job, like teaching and medicine.


you don't need a law degree to do law

there is bpp law school in London where graduates get sponsored by the likes of Clifford Chance to go to for 3 or 4 years before working full time
Reply 10
"The problem with Law is any tin-pot institution can offer it thus devaluing the degree unlike Medicine where the standard is constantly high. Two people can have Law degrees but if one is from Bradford and the other from Manchester you can get a good idea as to who would be the more suitable candidate"

I totally agree that any old Uni can offer Law unlike Medicine. My friend who's a Solicitor has said that trends have tended to change in respect of Law. When she studied it , it wasn't at all popular, then it became the subject to study and now every institution offers it.
I guess my question was directed at those students who want to practice Law ( as either Solicitors or Barristers) and whether they realised that the Law isn't all that glamourous, in fact it's hardly about glamour and riches. You may get the prestige (if that's your cup of tea) but what is prestige when your working all day, weekend, etc and not bringing home the salary you anticipated you would. I know a lot of damned good Barristers in particular who struggle to get work or to get briefed not cos they are crap but because Solicitors firms have their favourites and it's hard to break new ground. I'm not even a Lawyer yet but I undertake the work of a lawyer and it wears you down after a while.... I like what I do but it's knackering.. and you hardly get any free time.
The question wasn't really about people who want to do conversion courses, or who aren't going into the Law. I'd advise anyone wanting to go ito Law to try and get some work in a Solicitors Firm (not for two or three weeks) but for a few months to get a feel for what is it like. If the firm allows you to do more than photocopying (a fav with some firms) and gives you some cases, it would provide quite a valuable insight... keep your ProPlus on hand!!
Reply 11
ellel
"The problem with Law is any tin-pot institution can offer it thus devaluing the degree unlike Medicine where the standard is constantly high. Two people can have Law degrees but if one is from Bradford and the other from Manchester you can get a good idea as to who would be the more suitable candidate"

I totally agree that any old Uni can offer Law unlike Medicine. My friend who's a Solicitor has said that trends have tended to change in respect of Law. When she studied it , it wasn't at all popular, then it became the subject to study and now every institution offers it.
I guess my question was directed at those students who want to practice Law ( as either Solicitors or Barristers) and whether they realised that the Law isn't all that glamourous, in fact it's hardly about glamour and riches. You may get the prestige (if that's your cup of tea) but what is prestige when your working all day, weekend, etc and not bringing home the salary you anticipated you would. I know a lot of damned good Barristers in particular who struggle to get work or to get briefed not cos they are crap but because Solicitors firms have their favourites and it's hard to break new ground. I'm not even a Lawyer yet but I undertake the work of a lawyer and it wears you down after a while.... I like what I do but it's knackering.. and you hardly get any free time.
The question wasn't really about people who want to do conversion courses, or who aren't going into the Law. I'd advise anyone wanting to go ito Law to try and get some work in a Solicitors Firm (not for two or three weeks) but for a few months to get a feel for what is it like. If the firm allows you to do more than photocopying (a fav with some firms) and gives you some cases, it would provide quite a valuable insight... keep your ProPlus on hand!!


Law ain't that popular in my country... For most students, medicine is still the top choice.
Reply 12
ellel
Just asking cos quite a lot of people on this board are applying to study it including me. But, I've been involved in the Law for some time now (work in the area and all that!)and the theoretical side of it is not quite like the practice of it..
My days included no life... no weekends or evenings to myself cos I'm prpearing cases, statements, skel arguments, attending court or tribunals. Man is it stressful sometimes. A couple of Barristers the other day laughed when I said I wanted to go to the Bar. They said fine if you want no paid holidays, sick pay, low pay, etc. Of course, I knew all this. But most Barristers I come into contact with aren't highly paid and are just knackered most of the time!!
XX Sorry for any typos in a hurry!!



i agree, my friend who is a top solicitor works 7 days a week, and over 15hours each day.....she doesn't have time to sleep, she even sleeps at her office. she doesn't have time to eat, and theres just no life......saying that, her pay isn't even high! its not worth it unless u know its for u......
Reply 13
hornblower
Law is one of the best degrees to do. It is a prestigious subject and is necessary if you want to go into the profession. Law is a professional job, like teaching and medicine.

No, 50% of law grads do not go into the law and 33% of solicitors do not hold a law degree.
Reply 14
I don't believe that the amount of people applying to law has increased so dramatically due to the fact that most of them have a misconception about the subject. That would be ridiculous considering that many Law applicants have to be intelligent to apply in the first place. It's probably a combination of things; the existance of new "mickey-mouse" degrees meaning that people want to get more out of their years at Uni, the pressure on people in a materialistic world to aim for a career which could possibly be financially lucrative, a global factor where countries are co-operating and depending on each other more etc..
Reply 15
I think law from a good university is a very worthwhile and interesting subject ( to sum not me!) but from a uni which isnt one of the top one then it is over rated, personally i cant see the attraction but each to thier own, i think its daft that so many people want to do it, i dont think it is intelectually that hard to demand AAA although not easy i'm sure, i think in some cases people do it just for the possible money
Reply 16
cobra01977
I think law from a good university is a very worthwhile and interesting subject ( to sum not me!) but from a uni which isnt one of the top one then it is over rated, personally i cant see the attraction but each to thier own, i think its daft that so many people want to do it, i dont think it is intelectually that hard to demand AAA although not easy i'm sure, i think in some cases people do it just for the possible money


In our defence.. AAA is not all the top universities want from Law applicants. UCL has over 1,000 straight A applicants this year for only 150 places. So anyone (even with 3A's) who applies to law just for the hell of it will have a hard time getting many offers. I think uni's are become even better at sussing people out nowadays.. some of their interview techniques are pretty scary. So I still have a hard time believing anyone would apply to Law if they really weren't interested.
Reply 17
i agree with you but nowerdays quite a lot of people get AAA and sum people in the past admitted to doin it for just the money rarther than beacuse thay had a realy interst