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crap uni, 2:1 in economics degree, no work experience

what are my chances of getting a job in ib with these. i'm not gonna mention my uni, but lets just say its not exactly a top 5 :rolleyes:

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what do u guys think? am i getting ideas above my station?

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Reply 1

President_Ben

Only one way to find out. Apply and see what happens.

Reply 2

fonzievision

Well.. it would help if you say what uni it is.

Reply 3

CityMonkey

Can't possibly expect a well informed answer to that. However, I do know a person from Birmingham who got an internship at Lehman, unsure as to whether it was front or back office.

Reply 4

fuglyduckling

The odds are against you, but try and you might get lucky - a lot of it is about your powers of persuasion now :smile:

Reply 5

Drogue

The odds are pretty horrendously against you. You would need something that makes you stand out to get an interview.

Reply 6

squiffy the mule

oh well, i figured. i will give it a try though :cool:

. u never know

Reply 7

Hulk56

Don't worry about it. You'll be fine

Reply 8

supernova2

your chances depend where you want to be in IB...

Reply 9

Lawz-

Pretty much no chance. sorry.

Reply 10

Tortle

I don't understand this thread.

If you got a 2:1 in economics then be proud of yourself!

Reply 11

fonzievision

Tortle

I don't understand this thread.

If you got a 2:1 in economics then be proud of yourself!

2:1 from Bath Spa not the same as 2:1 from Warwick

Reply 12

ThePenguinMafia

I've always wondered about that. Supposedly they are supposed to be the same, but I'm aware that they aren't treated the same, and I find it hard to believe that 40% of TVU can get 2:i's and above when 20% of Oxford cannot.

Reply 13

Drogue

They aren't the same. The standardisation in reality confers a minimum level needed to get a grade, but no more. As is evidenced by the external marking of our Oxford E&M and PPE papers - every single borderline paper was marked at the higher grade by the external examiners from Birmingham and Exeter. Quite simply because more is required here for a 1st or a 2:1 than at most other places.

I'd argue a first at LSE is possibly even harder though. It seems in some courses, very, very few people get it.

Reply 14

Troy :0)

squiffy the mule

what are my chances of getting a job in ib with these. i'm not gonna mention my uni, but lets just say its not exactly a top 5 :rolleyes:

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what do u guys think? am i getting ideas above my station?

Give it a go, a few people in your situation always manage to get through. You might, however, consider a back office role if you wanted to increase your chances of working in IB, but then that wouldnt make you a banker I suppose :OS

Good luck.

Reply 15

Realist101

learn to talk well and articulate, that will stand you an excellent chance. people from 'lesser' unis i.e brunel have gt into fco which i rekon is WAY better than any IB. its obv the person had excellent communications skills. plus loads of relevent EC's will help also

Reply 16

investor

degrees arent all the same

eg an economics degree from oxbridge will probably make you do alot more or at least some maths etc

where as a degree from london met/no name uni kinda thing you can choose all the easy modules and course your way through !! and not have to touch a calculator

Reply 17

Tednol

fonzievision

2:1 from Bath Spa not the same as 2:1 from Warwick

2:1 from Bath Spa having been to a piss poor state school is a better achievement than a 2:1 from Warwick having had a silver spoon in your mouth all your life, IMHO.

Reply 18

investor

also a fair point, most normal students have to take up part time jobs to supplement there income etcwhen studying A levels and degree's.

most students who are lucky enough to be able to have gone to the top secondary schools and top unis usually have mum and dad pay for everything.

so when they are revising on the weekends the average student is there having the extra pressure of work and exams to deal with.

there are some students who come out of oxbridge and are 21,22 etc and have never had a job before !!!

Reply 19

CityMonkey

investor

also a fair point, most normal students have to take up part time jobs to supplement there income etcwhen studying A levels and degree's.

Their degrees are that much more easier, however, and require less time commitments. Oxbridge statutes stipulate that no students can work during term, its not to stop students earning money, its to stop them pissing away their time when they should be doing degree work.

most students who are lucky enough to be able to have gone to the top secondary schools and top unis usually have mum and dad pay for everything.

Going to a good private school is probably down to luck of being in a rich family, however going to a top uni is 100% meritocratic, Oxbridge and London 3 don't ask for parents' bank balance on the application form.

so when they are revising on the weekends the average student is there having the extra pressure of work and exams to deal with.

Again, easier course and easier exams. If you think your average university is the same difficulty and volume of work as Oxbridge then you're delusioned.

there are some students who come out of oxbridge and are 21,22 etc and have never had a job before !!!

Rare, almost everyone I know at Cambridge (a lot of people by the way since I used to be there) have worked, probably not in bars or shops but something atleast. In fact, some degree courses actually REQUIRE you to have worked in order to even pass. Engineering at Cambridge requires 8 weeks of relevant work experience before you can even progress to year 3, for example.