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If the BNP got into power in the uk?

Would Britain be similar to Nazi Germany. I think they would first target foreigners and get them deported or killed. Then they would start to target other groups within the UK or are in minority like gays etc. What state would the country be in, would they just go around and kill people they didn't like. Then they would try to invade other countries claiming they were a threat etc.

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Reply 1
I'm getting weird vibes from your name, "ihatebrownbread"...
Reply 2
I'd emigrate.
Wouldn't really know what it would be like having the BNP in power, all I can say is, something ****ier than all ****s must have happened beforehand.
The BNP would not last long and their supporters know it.

They know they live in a country with entrenched cultural Marxism and the whole establishment, BBC, the courts, the civil service, would be against them. The country is full of too many non whites for them to be able to control, especially when you factor in all the do gooder whites like trade unions and New Labour supporters.

Mass immigration, political correctness and cultural marxism have consigned the Nazis to the dustbin of history.
Original post by ihatebrownbread
Would Britain be similar to Nazi Germany. I think they would first target foreigners and get them deported or killed. Then they would start to target other groups within the UK or are in minority like gays etc. What state would the country be in, would they just go around and kill people they didn't like. Then they would try to invade other countries claiming they were a threat etc.


1) the BNP wouldn't get into power, but
2) if we're going to say "if they were in power", I'd say there would be revolution. No way would the mass population stand for that ****.
Reply 6
Woo... Packing my bags. I'll come back when the country regains sense and I'm less likely to be abused or discriminated against because of my skin colour.
I'd be interested to see what some BNP councillors have achieved, that might indicate whether it can function as a governing party.
Reply 8
1. England will become a dark, dank, isolated country

2. Then become bankrupt within half a year

3. Then will become a third world country with citizens rushing to exit for want of a better future (bnp supporters emigrating first only to face hostility from far right groups in host countries eventually leading them to become Marxists :tongue:)

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Reply 9
I said this last time as well. It couldn't happen without huge, sweeping, unparalleled cultural shift. The country would be unrecognisable from what it is now before that could happen (it would probably have to involve a backdrop of total economic collapse and extreme racial tension). The people themselves would have to be as angry and racist as the bnp before the bnp could take power. Most of us would have done anything we could to go to a safer country before all this.

I don't think it would be Nazi Germany all over again but it would certainly be a lot more totalitarian than the party likes to imply. After all they deliberately portray themselves as much more moderate than they actually are in order to attract votes.
Original post by RexyB
Woo... Packing my bags. I'll come back when the country regains sense and I'm less likely to be abused or discriminated against because of my skin colour.


Ermmmm... just to be clear the OP was being hypothetical, it hasn't actually happened :wink:
If it happened, would they deport mixed race people?
Original post by BambieWambie
If it happened, would they deport mixed race people?


They wouldn't and couldn't deport people born in Britain regardless of skin colour. I don't know whever they would try and deport the legal immigrants that are currently living in the UK but born elsewhere or whever they would just halt the flow of all new immigrants coming into the country all together.

They are nowhere near as bad as the Nazi party that's just unneeded hysteria. There are plenty of far right groups like them across Europe and while there policies are not exactly nice and while we should be avoiding giving them power they haven't started massacring minority races. Take Greece for example there new goverment is a far right skin head party but they are still nowhere near as bad as the Nazi's.
Reply 13
BNP will sadly never get into power, but if they did it would be a good thing for it's native population who are tired of their daughters being mass raped by Pakistani grooming gangs.


Before you condemn my words think about what these people do to us on a daily basis. Why we allow them in our country if this is how they treat us.

http://www.channel4.com/news/ceop-warns-against-focus-on-race-after-major-grooming-study

Some of these girls have been raped for years and ignored by the leftist social services. The sentences they get are a joke considering how many they rape, the age of the victim and that often these girls are abducted from the streets and become sex slaves.

This isn't just happening in the UK but even countries like Norway.


You should start listening to the likes of BNP bigoted they may be at least they look out for your interests. They've been right about nearly everything and warning us, but we never listen to them.
Seems fine to me

Given current demographic trends, we, the indigenous British people, will become an ethnic minority in our own country well within sixty years and most likely sooner.



All the signs are there:



- At least 84 percent and likely more of all current UK citizenship applications are from the Third World;

- Fourteen percent of all primary school children do not have English as a mother tongue;

- At least 316 primary schools in England have a large majority of children whose first language is not English;

- Non-indigenous births will soon account for more than half of all the babies born in Britain;

- Over the next twenty five years, immigration will account for forty percent of all new households set up in this country;

- Some 3.7 million legal migrants have entered this country since 1997 and 2.5 million are from outside the European Union; and

- At least twenty percent of the currently resident population were either born overseas or are descendants of foreign-born parents.



The vast majority of these foreign-born residents are of Third World extraction. According to figures released by the Office for National Statistics, at least eleven percent of all people living in Britain today were born overseas. This figure does not include their second or third generation children.



All these facts point inexorably to the overwhelming and extinguishing of Britain and British identity under a tsunami of immigration. To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question.



We will abolish the ‘positive discrimination’ schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of ‘asylum seekers’, all of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries.



The BNP’s policy is to:



- Deport all the two million plus who are here illegally;

- Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British;

- Review all recent grants of residence or citizenship to ensure they are still appropriate;

- Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently;

- Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases;

- Reject all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain.



Immigration is out of control. Britain’s population is now over 60 million and rising, solely due to immigration. Not only is Britain increasingly overcrowded, but the fact is that a country is the product of its people and if you change the people you inevitably change the nature of the country.



We want Britain to remain or return to the way it has traditionally been. We accept that Britain always will have ethnic minorities and have no problem with this as long as they remain minorities and do not change nor seek to change the fundamental culture and identity of the indigenous peoples of the British Isles.



The current open-door policy and unrestricted, uncontrolled immigration is leading to higher crime rates, demand for more housing (driving prices out of the reach of young people), severe extra strain on the environment, traffic congestion, longer hospital waiting lists, lower educational standards, higher income taxes, lower wages, higher unemployment, loss of British identity, a breakdown in community spirit, more restrictive policing, higher council taxes, a shortage of council homes, higher levels of stress and unhappiness and a more atomised society.



India would not tolerate millions of non-Indians taking over that society. Pakistan would not tolerate millions of Hindus or Christians entering that country and changing it from a Muslim society into something else. Japan would not do it; China would not do it so why should Britain?



Can anyone imagine Saudi Arabia allowing the mass immigration of Christians, so that in a few decades it would no longer be an Islamic country?



Each nation has the right to maintain its own identity. The right of India to remain Indian, the right of China to remain Chinese, the right of Pakistan to remain Pakistani and the right of Saudi Arabia to remain Saudi does not mean that any of these nations “hate” anybody else.



All it means is that they wish to preserve their identity and national existence.

This is all the British National Party seeks for Britain the right to be British.

This is not an extreme demand it is actually just perfectly normal and completely in line with the rights granted to every other nation and with international law.



All the other parties shy away from this issue, because they are the ones who have caused the problem in the first place.
Original post by RexyB
Woo... Packing my bags. I'll come back when the country regains sense and I'm less likely to be abused or discriminated against because of my skin colour.


Why ? Many Arabs live in Israel as Israeli, but stay.
Original post by CulturalMarxism
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And why should we trust you to have a neutral stance, with a username like that?

Original post by democracyforum
Seems fine to me

Given current demographic trends, we, the indigenous British people, will become an ethnic minority in our own country well within sixty years and most likely sooner.

All the signs are there:

[c&p points from BNP website]

The vast majority of these foreign-born residents are of Third World extraction. According to figures released by the Office for National Statistics, at least eleven percent of all people living in Britain today were born overseas. This figure does not include their second or third generation children.

All these facts point inexorably to the overwhelming and extinguishing of Britain and British identity under a tsunami of immigration. To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question.

[more c&p from the BNP website]

All it means is that they wish to preserve their identity and national existence.

This is all the British National Party seeks for Britain the right to be British.

This is not an extreme demand it is actually just perfectly normal and completely in line with the rights granted to every other nation and with international law.

All the other parties shy away from this issue, because they are the ones who have caused the problem in the first place.


Ah so you're reading their policies. Just going to do a copy & pasta from this thread:

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2154062&page=7

Before I even go in to their policies, know that their policies are just a cover for the policies that they haven't told us. In short, it's propaganda

[video="youtube;04QolIvfQEw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04QolIvfQEw&bpctr=135076 5588[/video]

Now on to their "policies"

Manifesto

Mentions "immigration invasion" It's not an invasion if people are immigrating legally and with permission. Thats hyperbole right there

It talks about "restoring British industry" It's no secret that the BNP panders to the working class, and sorry but those industries are gone and are just not economical in this country.

Why prop up uneconomical industries, when the gov't is pumping money in to high tech industries?

Democracy is supposedly under threat from the EU and by immigration. How so?

It talks about fears of jobs being transferred to the "Third world" Sorry, but it was the West who helped push those jobs to the far east, and it's not economical to get those jobs here. If we do, the jobs will be done by machines. Your average person won't notice the difference

It talks about colonisation and in the same sentence, they imply that the UK is somehow being colonised. Immigration =/= colonisation

They mention why they use certain words. That just shows the calibre of the people that vote BNP

http://www.bnp.org.uk/manifesto


Crime & Justice

What the hell is a "politically correct straight jacket"

In that same sentence, it seems like they want the "good old days" of "P*** bashing, Black bashing" etc...

Rights of criminals, and victims. Semi agree. On the one hand, part of me says stick it to the criminal, and to punish them for the max available.On the other hand, you just have to look at the Nordic countries and know that people that go in, don't keep going in etc.. (It's also cheaper)

Reintroducing corporal punishments for petty criminals and vandals. Why? I can understand why someone might want something like that or even capital punishment for murderers, but for vandals, it just seems a bit pointless

Lol at "social welfare dependance" supposedly "encouraged by disastrous Tory and Labour policies" - both these parties don't like that. It costs money. That's the bottom line

Most BNP supporters are working class, and more likely to be on the dole. That's just telling your voters, we don't really give a damn about you. On the plus side, at least they're being honest about it

Oh I do love the bit where he anthropomorphises buildings. Apparently buildings can be socialist

He wants "decent houses" Wheres the money going to come from?

The bit about "non indigenous crime" and it being dealt with as part of their "immigration and identity" policy is scary if you watch the above clip. That's very vague. Why not have the same thing for "indigenous" crime?

Lol at freeing 70% of the prison population by deporting the foreign criminals. Where's their source for that?

Putting police back on the street, and removing politically correct shackles. What? They'll patrol places that need them ie: high crime areas. I see them quite regularly in my home town, but not so much in my uni town. It makes economic sense

Police serving government. Shock horror. Of course, the police will serve the government. They are public sector workers.What's a "real criminal" The whole thing is very vague

http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/crime_justice

Democracy

The British invented modern democracy? I think that award goes to the French for overthrowing their monarchy and giving the will to the people. Even today, Britain is a "constitutional monarchy"

People have been denied their rights? The only rights I can see that have been curbed are those on freedom of speech ie: you can't be racist, sexist etc..

Democracy is absent? Really. I forgot that people were forced to vote for the Tories. Oh wait

What basic democratic rights have we been denied?

Power being devolved. Sounds nice, but unfortunately doesn't work so well in practise

Removing legal curbs on freedom of speech. There we go. That's the crux of it. They want to be racist, sexist etc...

Implementing a "Bill of rights" Fair enough, but why do we need it? Our laws are robust enough to already give us "fundamental freedoms"

Abolishing anti discrimination laws. Why?

Abolishing restrictions on freedom of speech. Why? AFAIK, the only real things that are restricted are racism, sexism etc... and most people simply aren't racist or sexist

Rejecting DNA samples of the innocent. Fair point, but that's hyperbole. The gov't does no such thing

http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/democracy


Economics

Initial post sounds absolutely pathetic. Our old industries just aren't economically viable any more. It makes no sense to prop up uneconomical industries

They call for manufacturing done in Britain by British workers etc... People just don't want to pay for that, and this is just protectionism. Protectionist policies do not work. If you want to look like the North Korea of Europe, go ahead

Unemployment will apparently be brought to an end by getting people on British manufacturing jobs - they make it sound like that's the only thing that helps the figures

A lot of our manufacturing is high tech/high end. That's not going to help Griffin's voters, who for the most part lack the education needed

They're going to restore economy by breaking up the giants. What?

Giving workers a stake at profits of big business. Sounds very communist like. Bad economics

Legislation that discriminates against White males. Source? There is no such thing.

What the hell is an "unfair foreign import"

Lol at increasing taxes on companies that outsource abroad. They'll jump ship and then you get nothing at all.

I've never actually heard of a married man's allowance, so no idea what that is

http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/economics


Education

Britain is still "up there" for education. Our universities are still world class. People greatly admire our education we have

Discipline has collapsed? Source? Also, notice how the schools in richer areas tend to do better for themselves, because people are simply willing to learn

Uni fees are hitting the poor hardest. That's BS. The poorest get the most amount of loans (I get the absolute max - I saved 2.5K, and I've put it in a savings account. I stand to make a tiny bit of profit on that amount - on the other amount, I obviously pay for it)

Has a point for "soft" subjects but arguably they're the ones that subsidise all the "hard" subjects. My course is very good value for money, considering what we get but if "soft" subjects were abandoned, then I can imagine it getting very pricey indeed

Uniforms - they exist.Don't know what planet they're on

O levels have been reintroduced. Also note how the BNP can't proof read their own site

Reintroduction of grammar schools - I went to one. Again, what planet are they on? They haven't all just been dismantled

Competitive sport - already happens

Daily Christian assemblies. Why, unless it's a CofE school?

Having maths that's practical in every day life. Every day maths for most people is if they get a C at GCSE. Why dumb maths down?

Teaching of British history - Our school did, and so do many others. It's just that we also have a world view at the same time. It makes us more knowledgeable about the world and not as ignorant as lots of American students

Improvement of school food - happens already

"Proper" Really? This is a political site, not some guy in a pub.

Racist neglect of White working class kids. What? If someone fails to put the work in, they fail. Simple as that. Nothing else to it

http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/education


Environment

Just made me lol. They seem very paranoid about the Greens

Immigration = destruction to environment? So, it's not the fact that 80% of the world's resources are used in 20% of the world, but because that guy from Zimbabwe decided to migrate to Britain. Sure about that?

Removal of power lines Wouldn't work in reality. People are selfish. They want both things. When they have no power, they are not going to be happy

Pushing supermarkets to go local. Many do, and we live in a free capitalist state. They are free to get them from wherever they can

Banning of "ritual slaughter without pre stunning" Most halal meat for instance is pre stunned, so that's hyperbole. Oh and wha's that got to do with the environment? Sounded like they wanted to have some Muslim bashing somewhere

Population is increasing entirely due to immigration. Really? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise that people are still having kids

http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/environment


Foreign policy

Our foreign policy IS determined by our own interests above all (except perhaps the Americans

Not quarrelling with nations that we have no interest in. That's what tend to happen. Notice how many Arab countries are "liberated" but other countries with worse situations arent?

Reaching an accord with the Muslim world to take back "excess population" Sounds like deportation for many Muslims just for having heritage from Muslim nations. And how the hell do you expect every one just to say "OK"?

So Britain says "Take all your Muslims back and we won't interfere" and then Griffin wants our foreign policy to serve us? Neither of those are in Britain's interests, economically speaking

I dunno about creating conflict. If the EU has done one thing that is good, is that it's created peace in Europe, where previously the continent has always been at war with itself

http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/foreign-affairs


Healthcare

The NHS is a laughing stock? Really? The NHS is absolutely amazing, is what it is. Yes it has inefficiencies and yes it could be improved, but it is in no way a laughing stock

Health tourists are being tackled

British doctors are unable to find work. Has he seen the stats for medicine. The lowest unemployment I've seen was 95%. 95%!

Contracting to cleaning companies, who employ "immigrants" doesn't mean that they're illegal. The NHS would most definitely have checks in place and the cleaning companies would be fined thousands if they were found employing illegal immigrants

Looting third world staff. Lol. They were offered a job and accepted. It's that simple

I also think Griffin hasn't grasped what "aid" is. Funnily enough, Britain had a field day when India rejected our "aid"

http://www.bnp.org.uk/content/health


Housing & Welfare

Foreigners come first. Really? It's not my fault if my Grandad spotted that house prices were rising substantially in the 80's and bought houses to rent etc...

Immediately given council homes. What? We own our house, and never have lived in a council home. I've never even been in one.

What the hell is the "immigration" and "asylum seeker" swindle? Those that are here illegally are deported. Simple as. There is no swindle

Immigration

14% of Britons don't have English as a mother tongue. So? They'll learn English at school. Technically speaking, my mother tongue isn't English but because I've became so fluent in English, and not really spoke my "native tongue" I've became far less fluent in that

Non indigenous births will soon account for more than half of all babies. Source?

Immigration will account for 40% of houses. Source?

Wait, they say 2.5 million are from the EU, with 3.7 million in total. Where did they get their 84% figure then?

20% were born overseas. Source?

Drop two lines and that becomes 11%. Lol, more contradictions

Voluntary resettlement is apparently a £50K pay check. Not only would that bankrupt the UK, but over a lifetime that's abysmal

Positive discrimination =/= making White Briton's second class citizens.

They focus on what other countries do. We aren't other countries. At least compare our immigration policies to Western nations, not nations like Saudi Arabia, India etc...

http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/immigration
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Reply 17
Original post by CulturalMarxism
Do you have any evidence or basis for your fears? or are they just based on your prejudices, which are probably based on what that the education, system, politicians and mass-media say about anyone who opposes the current Western fascist order of armies marching to globalize and internal "tolerance" to standardize and obliterate distinct cultures. Or in more crude terms, are you just a brainwashed kid who does and think what every one else does because he knows no better.


Pot, kettle.
Original post by CulturalMarxism
Maybe I am for cultural Marxism. Maybe I am for being being banged up for twitter comments and Tory MPs being investigated by police for mentioning gypsies in the same sentence as crime.


Or maybe you're making a pathetic attempt at sarcasm, considering your first post. Maybe even if you were for marxism (cultural or not), that still wouldn't give you a neutral view on things.

Engage brain. Think. Write.
Original post by Jareth
BNP will sadly never get into power, but if they did it would be a good thing for it's native population who are tired of their daughters being mass raped by Pakistani grooming gangs.


Before you condemn my words think about what these people do to us on a daily basis. Why we allow them in our country if this is how they treat us.

http://www.channel4.com/news/ceop-warns-against-focus-on-race-after-major-grooming-study

Some of these girls have been raped for years and ignored by the leftist social services. The sentences they get are a joke considering how many they rape, the age of the victim and that often these girls are abducted from the streets and become sex slaves.

This isn't just happening in the UK but even countries like Norway.


You should start listening to the likes of BNP bigoted they may be at least they look out for your interests. They've been right about nearly everything and warning us, but we never listen to them.


Anders Behring Breivik, is that you? I didn't know you could get internet in prison

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