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Getting over the relationship....

Hi, well this is long and complicated but I thought that I might see if I can get some advice.

Basically, last week I ended the relationship with my ex boyfriend. There are many reasons why I had to end it. He is very un-organised, doesn't have or seem to want a job. He's unemployed with no money or stable income. He also dropped out of uni simply because the course wasn't for him. That is understandable because I myself and many other people wouldn't want to be on an un-enjoyable course (I'm at uni and work part time by the way). I excepted that and was on the understanding that he was going to get a job where he would at least have some prospects which could lead on to much better things. When I met him, I thought that he had the prospects that I want in a boyfriend, he was in uni doing a business course and I thought he had life sorted but he messed it up for himself. It was understandable that he was unemployed because he was a student so that didn't bother me at the time. Also, my family thought he was no good for me because he didn't have any prospects and was unmotivated, even though they thought he was a nice guy.

Another reason I had to end it is the fact he promised that he would help me take my case and things to the station but didn't (I stayed in his hometown for a few days). We had a huge argument. I was left to carry all my cases through a strange town which I don't really know and all the way back to my hometown. This really hurt me and with this my family’s view of him as a nice guy changed. My mum went mad & thinks he was just using me. Now all my family and friends think he's horrible. They said that if he really did think something about me he would have took me to the station. You don't make your girlfriend carry heavy things through a strange town on her own. I also found out that he got told off from his family for acting this way.

Now is time that I need to try and move on. I'm feeling a mixture of emotions and miss him. He was my first love, (as my mum says) I was with him over 6 months and he was the man I lost my virginity to. That makes it hard. I loved him and still do but I just know that nothings going to work because we both have different views on life. He's happy with no money, etc (just going with the flow) and I want to succeed and be happy in life. There’s no way he could have been a long term partner. I've been told that if I was with him I'd be the one working while he'd be bumming around the house and then I'd have to come back from work and start work again in the house.

Anyway how do I move on with life without feeling upset? What do I do? Thanks.

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Reply 1

Sounds like you want to get yourself a sugar daddy or something.

If I love a girl, I'd be happy with nothing but her on an island.

Can't believe you're writing off the rest of his life saying he hasnt any prospects just because he didnt enjoy his course? Business is probably the most dull course you'll ever have the misfortune to study ever.

Richard branson made a success out of himself with no qualifications as did lots of other successfull businessmen. (you should tell him that, If he wanted to go into business, but hated the course)

also Good jobs that really interest and do have good prospects dont magically appear from nowhere.

With regard to not carrying your case being part of the reason,
so he isnt a gentleman, but maybe hes a feminist.

what was the argument about? You obviously stormed off for some reason, and through not getting your own way you still expected him to carry your cases. You sound an independent girl, you can and did carry your own cases.

Bet your family and his family dont know the whole reason why you ended up carrying it all on your own, as we dont.


With regard to what your parents think, how long have they actually spent with this lad? As a rule of thumb parents dont usually think anyones good enough for their daughters. They shouldnt be so judgemental for a start and you should of stuck up for your boyfriend.

also

I've been told that if I was with him I'd be the one working while he'd be bumming around the house and then I'd have to come back from work and start work again in the house.



you've been told? told by who? is this is a situation that you discussed? do you really think thats true? do you really believe anything you're told?
think about the bad things :smile: that's how I've 99.99% gotten over my ex. he was my first love...so he'll always have my love and affection even though he's such a jerk now. I don't know how exactly...but I just think about all the things that he said to me and the old anger flares up. after a while, when you're ready and over him, you can think about the old times.

to me, they're just a memory...and a reminder of what we had together when we were in love...and I hold on to it with nothing more than reminiscence. it takes a while. I'm still not fully completely over him and probably will never be. it's been two and a half months
Reply 3
El Scotto

Can't believe you're writing off the rest of his life saying he hasnt any prospects just because he didnt enjoy his course? Business is probably the most dull course you'll ever have the misfortune to study ever.


I didn't say that he didn't have any prospects because he dropped out his course. It is understandable why he dropped out of business and I accepted that fact. I wouldn't have liked to study that myself. Its a case now he's doing absolutely nothing and needs a job but is doing nothing about it. He's content just doing odd jobs for his family (painting, babysitting, etc) to earn a little money, which are infrequent. Even his family are angry with him for not getting a job, he's 20 its not like he's 16. It's like he doesn't want a job. hasn't applied for a single job.


El Scotto

what was the argument about? You obviously stormed off for some reason, and through not getting your own way you still expected him to carry your cases. You sound an independent girl, you can and did carry your own cases.

Bet your family and his family dont know the whole reason why you ended up carrying it all on your own, as we dont.


It's none of your business what the argument was about. It was possible to carry all my things on my own but was hard. If he thought anything about me he would have helped anyway.

El Scotto

With regard to what your parents think, how long have they actually spent with this lad? As a rule of thumb parents dont usually think anyones good enough for their daughters. They shouldnt be so judgemental for a start and you should of stuck up for your boyfriend.


I can't count the number of times I've stuck up for him in the past. I made excuses for the way he is to defend him from what people had said.

I just can't understand why anyone would mess their life up so much.
I agree with the OP.

I went out with a guy a couple of years back, thought he was great even though he kept losing his job because he wouldn't get up in the mornings, etc etc.

Me and this guy are still friends, but he hasn't changed. Except now his family have moved away, and he is stuck in a badly paid job which he hates(for now) and living with relatives, generally not doing anything at all with his life.

I don't think it's too much to ask for a girl to want a man who is going to provide for her when the going gets tough.
El Scotto

Sounds like you want to get yourself a sugar daddy or something.

If I love a girl, I'd be happy with nothing but her on an island.

Can't believe you're writing off the rest of his life saying he hasnt any prospects just because he didnt enjoy his course? Business is probably the most dull course you'll ever have the misfortune to study ever.

Richard branson made a success out of himself with no qualifications as did lots of other successfull businessmen. (you should tell him that, If he wanted to go into business, but hated the course)

also Good jobs that really interest and do have good prospects dont magically appear from nowhere.

With regard to not carrying your case being part of the reason,
so he isnt a gentleman, but maybe hes a feminist.

what was the argument about? You obviously stormed off for some reason, and through not getting your own way you still expected him to carry your cases. You sound an independent girl, you can and did carry your own cases.

Bet your family and his family dont know the whole reason why you ended up carrying it all on your own, as we dont.


With regard to what your parents think, how long have they actually spent with this lad? As a rule of thumb parents dont usually think anyones good enough for their daughters. They shouldnt be so judgemental for a start and you should of stuck up for your boyfriend.

also




you've been told? told by who? is this is a situation that you discussed? do you really think thats true? do you really believe anything you're told?


Thanks.

I'm her ex. There are certain things I won't put up with. Such as, her screaming at me that I'm going to overdose on cough medicine after having half a teaspoon over the recommended dose. Also her screaming her head off that I'd hit her when I didn't touch her, I only put my hands lightly on her shoulders and went 'ahhh' as you do when you're annoyed with someone.

I'm not carrying anyone's bags when they act like that. And I'm not getting on a bus or train with them for a slient ride. I don't care if it was PMT or what, I'm not putting up with it.

People can think what they want, they hardly know me. I'm earning £50 a day right now, and looking for a regular job and writing. I'm happy. I see no problem. Anyone who sees a problem can f off.
Well put it this way he was bumming around doing nothing not getting a job at all, is that what you want a boyfriend to be, i say you did the right thing getting rid of him, maybe it will shock him into action, anyway maybe have a night out with your friends or something sometimes that works.
*He was my first love, (as my mum says) * may be u better hear ur feelings than ur mom does it for u?
p.s u know, when i first came to UK, to Oxford, my BF could not follow me to the station when I was going back to Russia, coz he had a horrible stomachache, It was an unknown country, unknown city (tho not strange :smile:) and I could not understant brit accent much (coz we had american teachers at school), but I understod he had pain, and I didnt even take money for taxi (he had not the best period of his life and it was tufft with money),I had 2 heavy huuge bags, bigger than me I guess, i even wanted to ask some homeless to help me :smile: but it went ok and I didnt even have any little tiny thought to get upset with my BF coz of that
so my point is that bags are not the reason to break up...and I am sure there was smth why he didnt do that? may be u made him upset, or u had a fight? or u did smth wrong that hurt him? try to think about it...I am sure there must be a reason
Tho, I can understand why U dont want to be with unmotivated person. It is hard to orgonise my BF sometimes as well and it can irriatte me, but I guess I love him too much to break up with him coz of that :P may be u just trying to see in him kind of future ? I mean u dont want to be with him coz he is unmotivated, so he wont be able to be a good husband etc..but come on, how old are u? 17? no one is talkign about marriage now, just have fun and spend time with whom u enjoy it, give that poor brat another try, he cant be this bad..
Anonymous
Thanks.

I'm her ex. There are certain things I won't put up with. Such as, her screaming at me that I'm going to overdose on cough medicine after having half a teaspoon over the recommended dose. Also her screaming her head off that I'd hit her when I didn't touch her, I only put my hands lightly on her shoulders and went 'ahhh' as you do when you're annoyed with someone.

I'm not carrying anyone's bags when they act like that. And I'm not getting on a bus or train with them for a slient ride. I don't care if it was PMT or what, I'm not putting up with it.

People can think what they want, they hardly know me. I'm earning £50 a day right now, and looking for a regular job and writing. I'm happy. I see no problem. Anyone who sees a problem can f off.

I understand u, you are probaly p off coz she posted it here as well...and I undersnatd that no one likes when girl is trying to change him, my bF would say 'dont like me, cant accept me, then u dont love me and pls leave me' I mean, u are happy urself and money are not this imporant, u can spend so much time without any money with ur GF and really have fun, I understand it is horrible when girls shout at u...and I also am sure that a normal guy wouldnt not help his gf without no reason with heavy bags, she had to do smth bad to u, hurt u somehow so u behaved liek this...just dont be mad at her... I dont know, but may be u 2 better talk?
El Scotto

Sounds like you want to get yourself a sugar daddy or something.

If I love a girl, I'd be happy with nothing but her on an island.

Can't believe you're writing off the rest of his life saying he hasnt any prospects just because he didnt enjoy his course? Business is probably the most dull course you'll ever have the misfortune to study ever.

Richard branson made a success out of himself with no qualifications as did lots of other successfull businessmen. (you should tell him that, If he wanted to go into business, but hated the course)

also Good jobs that really interest and do have good prospects dont magically appear from nowhere.

With regard to not carrying your case being part of the reason,
so he isnt a gentleman, but maybe hes a feminist.

what was the argument about? You obviously stormed off for some reason, and through not getting your own way you still expected him to carry your cases. You sound an independent girl, you can and did carry your own cases.

Bet your family and his family dont know the whole reason why you ended up carrying it all on your own, as we dont.


With regard to what your parents think, how long have they actually spent with this lad? As a rule of thumb parents dont usually think anyones good enough for their daughters. They shouldnt be so judgemental for a start and you should of stuck up for your boyfriend.

also




you've been told? told by who? is this is a situation that you discussed? do you really think thats true? do you really believe anything you're told?


:dito:
Reply 10
Thanks a lot everyone. I'm 18 by the way (19 next month) CherryGarcia and am not thinking about marriage yet, lol. I just like the idea of long term stable relationships rather then pointless short ones, etc.

Anyway life seems better for me now, I should just look into the future, I've got some good friends to support me and I'm off out tonight :smile: .
Anonymous
Thanks.

I'm her ex. There are certain things I won't put up with. Such as, her screaming at me that I'm going to overdose on cough medicine after having half a teaspoon over the recommended dose. Also her screaming her head off that I'd hit her when I didn't touch her, I only put my hands lightly on her shoulders and went 'ahhh' as you do when you're annoyed with someone.

I'm not carrying anyone's bags when they act like that. And I'm not getting on a bus or train with them for a slient ride. I don't care if it was PMT or what, I'm not putting up with it.

People can think what they want, they hardly know me. I'm earning £50 a day right now, and looking for a regular job and writing. I'm happy. I see no problem. Anyone who sees a problem can f off.



It sounds of your best rid. She sounds like a totally high maintence nightmare.

I know for a fact it'd have to of been a good reason for a guy not to help a girl with her bags.

she goes "she doesnt want to say what the argument was about" but brings up loads of stuff about her family and friends trying to make herself seem more in the right.

she says you're 20, not 16.

And? so? its not as if your 40... do what ya want mate. If ya get money doing odd jobs thats fair enough, bide your time till you find something you want to do. Dont take no grief of a woman

I dont see how she says your messing up your life? unless your in prison or something? Or on the way to it? ridiculous.

You're best of rid. Girls like her are lucky that guys put up with them so long.
Reply 12
Anonymous
I didn't say that he didn't have any prospects because he dropped out his course. It is understandable why he dropped out of business and I accepted that fact. I wouldn't have liked to study that myself. Its a case now he's doing absolutely nothing and needs a job but is doing nothing about it. He's content just doing odd jobs for his family (painting, babysitting, etc) to earn a little money, which are infrequent. Even his family are angry with him for not getting a job, he's 20 its not like he's 16. It's like he doesn't want a job. hasn't applied for a single job.




It's none of your business what the argument was about. It was possible to carry all my things on my own but was hard. If he thought anything about me he would have helped anyway.



I can't count the number of times I've stuck up for him in the past. I made excuses for the way he is to defend him from what people had said.

I just can't understand why anyone would mess their life up so much.


Goodness me, you truly are an odious individual.
Reply 13
So.... women haven't changed since Pride and Prejudice was written then?
Aw come on - they just wanted different things. Admittedly her motivation seems to be rather superficial, and she sees herself with a specific type of guy who her ex isn't. Doesn't make him a bad person and her....well maybe she'll realise when she's older or more experienced that just because someone isn't perfect doesn't make them a write off.

She can go off and find a guy her mum likes who spends his days carrying her handbag for her when he's not rolling around in £50 notes in his mansion and her ex can find a nice girl who appreciates him, irrespective of his bank balance.
Reply 15
I don't think the OP is being unreasonable. If she is looking for a long term relationship then not agreeing on issues like money in that way is going to cause problems. Its not that either of them are in the wrong, they just want different things & they r only going to change each other. Better to wait til u meet a guy more like u, thats not unreasonable surely? It used to irritate me that my ex spent all his money & got into debt even wen he had a full time job. Then I would nag etc... & I realised this wasn't fair on either of us. He had the right to spend his money how he wanted & I had the right to be sensible/boring depending on ur point of view! People break up if they aren't compatible in other ways, I don't see this is much different.

As to getting over him, its tough but try to remember why u broke up & that if u were back together it would be just the same. Its too easy to remember the good memories & forget the problems! & hold out til u find a guy right for u!
How can you say he was your first love then dump him for not having a job or being a slave to you?!
Love is something where you wouldn't care if you were living in a squat as long as you were beating off the rats with him.
I would rather do that with my boyfriend then live in a mansion with an arsehole who ticked all the "right" boxes.
you need to grow up a bit it seems.
Reply 17
Thanks everyone, to be honest neither me or my ex are wrong in what we are saying. If I was reading this and someone else posted it. I could see both sides of the story.

Student_Bum
How can you say he was your first love then dump him for not having a job or being a slave to you?!
Love is something where you wouldn't care if you were living in a squat as long as you were beating off the rats with him.
I would rather do that with my boyfriend then live in a mansion with an arsehole who ticked all the "right" boxes.
you need to grow up a bit it seems.


My ex was never a slave to me, he used to be very helpful and considerate. Helped me take my cases and things to the station at uni whenever I went home for the weekends. I didn't force him or ask him, he just did it and when he didn't help that time, it hurt.

Also not having a job is understandable because many people are unemployed BUT are currently applying and looking for jobs. Doing something about it which my ex wasn't. I don't want a rich man and a mansion. I just want to be comfortable in the future and have someone who doesn't have huge money problems.
but...... if you "loved" him then why dump him because he hasn't got a job?You would rather be comfortable with someone else and lose the man you "love"?
[Her ex again]

Thanks StudentBum I was thinking the same thing. She is unreasonable. I took a lot of crap from Jade, she would often go mental about me not having a job etc or even one time I said 'can you not walk faster' cos we were going to be late to a restaurant and she flipped out. It got to the point where I realised I was better off without her and her psycho BS.

She listens to what everyone else says, as opposed to herself and tells everyone I'm such a bad person, with no prospects etc...I just don't care. People can think what they like, and believe what they want to.

I asked her (on MSN) today to give me back something of mine she had and she wouldn't even answer me/acknowledge me so I told her to where to go. I'm not even bothering with her anymore, she can keep what she has.

I've met a lot of nice girls now and am very happy. All are much more attractive than Jade and a lot saner. :smile: