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My Phobia

I am terrified to fly on airplanes. :frown: I never was so sceared and usually enjoed my flyes, always was enjoying the view from the window etc, but recenty when i was flying from my BF home (he lives in Italy I in sweden) i got so sceared for some reason, that I nearly cryed...and then the time after that, the last time I flew I just was really crying how sceared I was. Even when i was getting back from Russia, I have decided not to get an airplane but bus and ship, so the trip took me 3 days to Sweden instead of 2h. :frown:
I think i got some kind of phobia (may be Aviophobia or Aviatophobia), or smth but I really want to get rid of that!! How can I do that??? I know that there is no way to make me fly with airplane now. I am getting paniced just if I think about that. But the problem is that I want to see my BF, that lives in Italy. (I also got some course in scuola leonardo Da vinci there in july-but jez, i dont want to fly :frown: ) And for now I even prefer not to see my BF for 2-3 month to avoid airplane though I miss im so so much...I just can do nth with my fear...
what can i do? does anyone have the same problem?or may be sceared of smth else? :confused:

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Can you think what triggered this fear of flying in the first place? It seems odd that you were ok with flying once, and then suddenly became phobic about it - I'd be wondering what made that happen. If it's so bad that you can't bear to fly then it might be worth seeing your doctor about it, or seeking help from a hynotherapist perhaps. The other option - which probably isn't very realistic since you live in Sweden and you need to get to Italy - is to travel overland instead (much more environmentally friendly!). It is a very common fear - my boyfriend absolutely hates flying, although I wouldn't say he is phobic about it. He's travelled extensively all over the world despite the fear, because his desire to travel outweighs his fear of flying. But if you have a true phobia then it may not be possible for you to force yourself onto that plane.
Reply 2
Don't think about the flight itself - think about why you're going on that flight: to see your Boyfriend.

You could well suffer from claustrophobia as well - short-/medium-haul aircraft are hardly the most spacious things :smile:


Air travel is the safest form of transport there is, so you shouldn't really have any worries on that front (I could give you a brief list of what makes aircraft so safe, but that could make your fear worse :wink:)

I wouldn't really recommend it, but you could have a look at a few 'fear of flying' programmes, often run by airlines. Some of them will actually take you up in a plane, but as you'll be on an aircraft with a load of other people probably worse than you, with no real reason for the trip, you may not find this beneficial.
Reply 3
I think i got sceared when I looked down and imagind the crush and It was so real, I imagined all ppl in blod, fire and death...and it was just too sceary and then the airplane started to vibrate and there was a couple sitting near me and they started to hold hands, and it looked liek in movies u knwo before ppl die...and then I watched this program about Ryanair, that Uk television made, have anyone watched it?
CherryGarcia
I think i got sceared when I looked down and imagind the crush and It was so real, I imagined all ppl in blod, fire and death...and it was just too sceary and then the airplane started to vibrate and there was a couple sitting near me and they started to hold hands, and it looked liek in movies u knwo before ppl die...and then I watched this program about Ryanair, that Uk television made, have anyone watched it?


Didn't see the programme on Ryanair, no!

Perhaps reading up on the statistics on air safety would reassure you - statistically it is a safe way to travel. If I get a bit freaked (I'm not phobic but I don't particularly like flying), I look at the cabin crew. They fly every day, many times a day for short haul flights, and they aren't freaking out!
Reply 5
Ryanair hasn't had a single incident involving harm to its passengers and crew in it's entire 20 year life. Also, if you're worried about Ryanair, don't fly with Ryanair.

I've had some pretty scary experiences in planes. When flying to Edinburgh a couple of years ago, we got the seat next to the emergency over-wing escape hatch for the extra legroom. The flight attendant left a key in it, which had big red tape attached to it saying "WARNING: REMOVE BEFORE DEPARTURE," which got us a little uneasy. And then, after we took off, masses of condensation starting streaming into the cabin from vents in the ceiling, which scared people. But there was never any real danger at any point.

Also, when flying back from New York last February, the fire alarm in the toilet at the very back of the plane went off. It was pretty freaky, the moment it went off -all- the cabin crew got out of their seats and rushed to the back of the plane, frantically looking around while the guy in charge of them was on the phone to the captain. We stopped climbing at around 5000 feet and just circled above the sea north of Long Island for about 20 minutes until it was sorted out. It was just a false alarm, though.

All in all, just remember that flying is the safest mode of travel, bar none. Any fear of it is completely irrational. The only reason people are so worried is because -every- crash that happens gets intense press coverage, so people think it happens more than it does. You're way more safe in a plane than in a car. By taking a bus and a ship to travel wherever you went, not only did it take 3 days instead of 2 hours, it also put your life more at risk.
Reply 6
spacedonkey
Didn't see the programme on Ryanair, no!

Perhaps reading up on the statistics on air safety would reassure you - statistically it is a safe way to travel. If I get a bit freaked (I'm not phobic but I don't particularly like flying), I look at the cabin crew. They fly every day, many times a day for short haul flights, and they aren't freaking out!

Yeah, i was thinking how do they do that??? I would just die, i just get freaked out when the airplane starts to vibrate, though I was thinking why am i not sceread to be in a car when it is ona bad road and it vibrates etc...I am just sceared to fall down with airplane...it seems to be terrible
Reply 7
CherryGarcia
I think i got sceared when I looked down and imagind the crush and It was so real, I imagined all ppl in blod, fire and death...and it was just too sceary and then the airplane started to vibrate and there was a couple sitting near me and they started to hold hands, and it looked liek in movies u knwo before ppl die...and then I watched this program about Ryanair, that Uk television made, have anyone watched it?

I didn't watch that program, but read a lot about it - Dispatches got a few key facts wrong. Ryanair now only use brand new Boeing aircraft, which have more modern technology than you could shake a stick at!

Vibrations are often perfectly normal on a plane (unless they're really, really, really bad) - it was probably just a bad runway, or the undercarriage retracting.
Reply 8
NSiky
Ryanair hasn't had a single incident involving harm to its passengers and crew in it's entire 20 year life. Also, if you're worried about Ryanair, don't fly with Ryanair.

I've had some pretty scary experiences in planes. When flying to Edinburgh a couple of years ago, we got the seat next to the emergency over-wing escape hatch for the extra legroom. The flight attendant left a key in it, which had big red tape attached to it saying "WARNING: REMOVE BEFORE DEPARTURE," which got us a little uneasy. And then, after we took off, masses of condensation starting streaming into the cabin from vents in the ceiling, which scared people. But there was never any real danger at any point.

Also, when flying back from New York last February, the fire alarm in the toilet at the very back of the plane went off. It was pretty freaky, the moment it went off -all- the cabin crew got out of their seats and rushed to the back of the plane, frantically looking around while the guy in charge of them was on the phone to the captain. We stopped climbing at around 5000 feet and just circled above the sea north of Long Island for about 20 minutes until it was sorted out. It was just a false alarm, though.


Jez :eek: if smth like this would happen to me id just die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was also thinking, airplanes crush sometimes right? and there were no crashes recently, so there will be some sooner or later, and I am sceared to be on that plane, i know it is stupoid to think that way, but that just sticked in my mind and i cant get rid of these thoughts. :frown:
But sure, I dont know why, talkign about this here helps me a lot and reading all these things makes me feel better and even stated to think about gettign tickets to italy, tho not with ryanair :frown:
Reply 9
CherryGarcia
Jez :eek: if smth like this would happen to me id just die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was also thinking, airplanes crush sometimes right? and there were no crashes recently, so there will be some sooner or later, and I am sceared to be on that plane, i know it is stupoid to think that way, but that just sticked in my mind and i cant get rid of these thoughts. :frown:
But sure, I dont know why, talkign about this here helps me a lot and reading all these things makes me feel better and even stated to think about gettign tickets to italy, tho not with ryanair :frown:

Most of the recent nasty crashes have happened on old aircraft operated by airlines in "less developed" countries, which already have a poor aviation safety record.

In Europe and the USA, planes have to be checked regularly (every x landings or flying hours), and are given a major service every year or so (I forget the exact figures). Plus, there's also all the checks before each departure that the ground crew and pilots will go through. Does your car get that much attention each time you drive it? If there is anything remotely wrong with a plane, it won't leave the ground until it's been thoroughly checked - even a small dent in the fuselage from someone driving the jetty into the side of the plane will ground it.


Edit:

For the record, I would not fly on Ryanair where possible, not because of their aircraft, but because "you get what you pay for" with regards to service! I don't want to have to end up paying for a sickbag during my moment of need :wink: (OK, you probably don't have to pay for sickbags on Ryanair, but you never know :biggrin:)

I'm also in my first year at university, studying Aeronautical Engineering.
Reply 10
thomasp
Most of the recent nasty crashes have happened on old aircraft operated by airlines in "less developed" countries, which already have a poor aviation safety record.

In Europe and the USA, planes have to be checked regularly (every x landings or flying hours), and are given a major service every year or so (I forget the exact figures). Plus, there's also all the checks before each departure that the ground crew and pilots will go through. Does your car get that much attention each time you drive it? If there is anything remotely wrong with a plane, it won't leave the ground until it's been thoroughly checked - even a small dent in the fuselage from someone driving the jetty into the side of the plane will ground it.

yeah, but according to this program about ryanair, they have just 25 min between flights and all they can do in this time is clean, they dont even check if there are life wests (or how do they call) under each seat..and they dont even check the background of the ppl who work with them, so any terrorist can become a pilot.. :frown:
That was only on a couple of flights, and it's not company policy, because airlines are legally required to perform maintainance after every 24 flying hours (I'm pretty sure it's that), as well as a pre-flight check and then the full going-over every year or so, like thomasp said. Crashes with airlines from developed countries are incredibly rare.
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CherryGarcia
yeah, but according to this program about ryanair, they have just 25 min between flights and all they can do in this time is clean, they dont even check if there are life wests (or how do they call) under each seat..and they dont even check the background of the ppl who work with them, so any terrorist can become a pilot.. :frown:

The ground crew can still check the aircraft though.

And every few flights, the aircraft will have to be pulled out of service for half a day or so and given a thorough check over.

Also, Ryanair don't really fly over much water, so a lifejacket wouldn't really be all that useful :smile:


Don't believe everything in that Dispatches show - it was meant to deceive a little... Pilots still have to be certified with the CAA and JAA (UK and European safety bodies), and if they think a pilot is dodgy, they won't give them their license to fly, and Ryanair won't be allowed to use that pilot.
Reply 13
[QUOTE=thomasp

Don't believe everything in that Dispatches show - it was meant to deceive a little... Pilots still have to be certified with the CAA and JAA (UK and European safety bodies), and if they think a pilot is dodgy, they won't give them their license to fly, and Ryanair won't be allowed to use that pilot.
wow, that info made me feel better :smile: really!
Reply 14
Just think about Concorde, 40 years service and only one of them fell out of the sky, don't know many cars that would equal that saftey record!!!
In that case, for those that fear flying, here are some films you shouldn't see:

* Passenger 57
* Airplane!
* Castaway
* Con Air
* Top Gun
* Stealth

It's not flying you should be afraid of, it's CRASHING you should be afraid of, but don't take notice of that, those types of accidents are rare these days.
Reply 16
I love flying :smile: I always sit at the window and i always look right down the window to see the countries.
Reply 17
Lyndzxx
I love flying :smile: I always sit at the window and i always look right down the window to see the countries.

i was just the same...but my 2 last trips were horrible and I dont want get on airplane ever again :frown:
The only time I got really scared was flying over the himalayas in some small cruddy passenger plane. It was a 50 person one and it shook like a smelly ****
Reply 19
Avoid flying with a Greek airline then.