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    Hi, Does anyone know anything bout the poet John Cooper Clarke??

    "coolchick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    [q1]> Hi, Does anyone know anything bout the poet John Cooper Clarke??[/q1]
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    Does 'he swears a lot' count? Or do you want such enlightening facts as
    date of birth, favourite colour, etc? I believe he still lives in
    Manchester, so that might be a good place to start searching for him. Or
    if you prefer the Web, try http://www.cyberspike.com/clarke/

    Which, if any, GCSE covers the work of living poets?

    Michael Saunby

    Seen some of his poems, not impressed..

    Yes living poets are I thought offered by most if not all GCSE exam
    boards, dreary Armitage, lesie Duffey, good old Seamus Heaney, frankly,
    it would not be any advantage to have a poet who uses bad language for
    the sake of it, get enough of that from spoilt kids waiting for a bus at
    the local bus station.

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    "Michael Saunby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    [q1]> "coolchick" <[email protected]> wrote in message[/q1]
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    [q1]> Does 'he swears a lot' count?[/q1]

    Well, i need to read a poem in assembly...one of his should be
    interesting!!

    Or do you want such enlightening facts as date
    [q1]> of birth, favourite colour, etc? I believe he still lives in[/q1]
    [q1]> Manchester, so that might be a good place to start searching for him.[/q1]
    [q1]> Or if you prefer the Web, try http://www.cyberspike.com/clarke/[/q1]

    Ok thanks!

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    [q1]> Which, if any, GCSE covers the work of living poets?[/q1]
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    This yr we're only studing living poets!

    Thanks Eva
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    Its not *all* swearing (alot is! ) e.g.

    "HAIKU...

    TO-CON-VEY ONE'S MOOD IN SEV-EN-TEEN SYLL-ABLE-S IS VE-RY DIF-FIC"

    We're studing "I wanna Be Yours...

    I wanna be your vacuum cleaner breathing in your dust I wanna be your
    Ford Cortina I will never rust If you like your coffee hot let me be
    your coffee pot You call the shots I wanna be yours......"

    Thanks for the info

    Eva

    As time goes by our well known living poets die off, Hughes has gone,
    Heaney getting on, we are so desperate for decent poets these days that
    non entities like Duffey and Armitage get shoved on to GCSE syllabuses
    in an act of desperation. For me I have seen better poetry from kids
    from schools in Africa

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    I'm afraid poets are not chosen for the gcse syllabus on the basis of
    the quality of the writing, they're there for the politically correct
    reasons of their gender or their ethnicity. The gcse anthology is the
    only one I know of where the anthologist does not feel the need to
    provide an introduction in order to explain the reasons for the
    selection.

    http://www.quisquis.freeserve.co.uk/gcse_english.htm

    enjoy

    I think you are right about quality. Certainly in Duffey's case she is
    the sample lesbian born in Scotland. Armitage isn't he from Yorkshire?
    Ethnicity we need to think about that, English is an international
    language so what's wrong with exposure to other writing even from the
    USA. My God! Heaney is the only decent poet who writes in English
    unfortunately he doesn't consider himself British!

    I'll look at your site properly later. GCSE English should include more
    from the traditional canon of poets, so what if they are dead they still
    have something to communicate to us.

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    "neptune" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    Though perhaps mere entertainers such as Bob Dylan or Lou Reed would
    disqualify themselves from the ranks of true poets on the grounds that
    they are neither poor nor obscure; and if you want to be cynical,
    because they occasionally have something to relevant to say.

    Michael Saunby

    he's dreadful - i saw him at a live poetry day this week and he gabbles his poetry dead fast so that u can't tell what he says and he doesn't give any useful information regarding his poetry. however, i'm not doing his stuff for gcse so i'm happy! he's a punk/performance poet and he has a really strong accent, kinda cockney but not, if you know what i mean. oh yeah, he's been on gmtv and he's pretty famous for a poet and he does ray winston impressions (don't ask!!) and he's obsessed with dodgy clothes.
    hope that helps!!
    jenny

    can't agree about Heaney, he can't do last lines. Also he stumbles
    dreadfully in language, remember the poem about the thatcher 'couchant'
    on the roof - risible!!

    Jon


    A great poet - one of the few from our era that will be remembered. I =
    teach from home and we will be studying Clarke this year in fact.

    Originally posted by Coolchick
    Hi, Does anyone know anything bout the poet John Cooper Clarke??
    he is a music man and he sings songs. he trys to write poems . one of his most 'famous works' is i wanna be yours. He rocks
 
 
 
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