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Reply 1
Original post by hs1var19
Hi I'm just wondering what's the difference between MBBS vs MD? Is a PA considered a doctor already? I'm thinking about going to med school and I know it's a long and tedious road but how long does it take to get me there? Is a MBBS a GP or not? I'm just confused... Thanks!


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In the UK (and some parts of the Commonwealth) an MBBS, or MbChB etc degree is the primary qualifying degree for doctors (so yes, a GP would have one.) It's all you need to become a doctor, and takes 5-6 years of studying,. Research at PhD level is an MD for registered physicians, or an ChM or MD for surgeons. In America and other countries the MD is the primary qualifying degree, with research being awarded a PhD.
Reply 2
So if I already finished my MBBS, am I considered a doctor then? Or a GP?


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Reply 3
Original post by hs1var19
So if I already finished my MBBS, am I considered a doctor then? Or a GP?


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Doctor! You'd have 2 years of training (called Foundation years) once you're qualified, so you can decide what sort of medical job (specialisation) you want. GP is a specialisation, just like an orthopaedic surgeon or psychiatrist - they all require you to take further exams to make sure that you know your particular area really well.
Reply 4
Original post by hs1var19
So if I already finished my MBBS, am I considered a doctor then? Or a GP?


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5 years of med school, you get your degree mbbs and are a doctor
then 2 years foundation training
then further specalisation GP is an extra 5 years or if you choose medicine/surgery it varies
if youre thinking about how long it takes you to get to consultant level then you will be in your 30s.
Take it as you go, if you enjoy what youre doing itll be fine and you wont mind the length it takes as much.

to do a PhD its different, I think you have to work abit then can do it but I may be wrong and its worth asking a med student this
Reply 5
Thanks guys!! Now I have a clearer picture.. Haha are you attending Med Schools? I'm thinking about applying to UCL or Leeds..


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Reply 6
Original post by hs1var19
Hi I'm just wondering what's the difference between MBBS vs MD? Is a PA considered a doctor already? I'm thinking about going to med school and I know it's a long and tedious road but how long does it take to get me there? Is a MBBS a GP or not? I'm just confused... Thanks!


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PA's aren't really that established in the UK and at any rate they are not doctors. GPs will certainly have an MBBS (or it's equivalent e.g. MB ChB, MB BChir, etc) and possibly an MD depending on whether they've completed a research degree.
Original post by hs1var19
Thanks guys!! Now I have a clearer picture.. Haha are you attending Med Schools? I'm thinking about applying to UCL or Leeds..


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Research the med schools you apply to carefully as they each have different selection criteria so you need to find ones which suit your academics, admission tests scores and your personal statement.

Also look at competition, med schools with fewer places are much more competitive and so can be much more difficult to get into.
Reply 8
Original post by Strangey
Research at PhD level is an MD for registered physicians, or an ChM or MD for surgeons.


Not entirely true. An MD takes two years of research, while a PhD takes at least 3. An MD is generally seen as the lesser doctorate. ChM and MS tend not to get awarded these days in the UK anymore...
Reply 9
I was under the impression that you were only a doctor proper once you entered FY2.
Original post by Zedd
I was under the impression that you were only a doctor proper once you entered FY2.


Depends on what you define as doctor proper. You're provisionally registered with the GMC for FY1 , which upgrades to full registration once passed, however as an FY2 you can still only work in an approved practice setting (which basically means you can't go off and work as an RMO in a private hospital.) Practically, provisional registration means that you can't locum outside your own hospital, and you cannot write outpatient prescriptions, but for all other intentsandpurposes you are a doctor (and get to use the title.)
Reply 11
Original post by Spencer Wells
Depends on what you define as doctor proper. You're provisionally registered with the GMC for FY1 , which upgrades to full registration once passed, however as an FY2 you can still only work in an approved practice setting (which basically means you can't go off and work as an RMO in a private hospital.) Practically, provisional registration means that you can't locum outside your own hospital, and you cannot write outpatient prescriptions, but for all other intentsandpurposes you are a doctor (and get to use the title.)

Well, full registration is what I meant- should've been clearer! Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Hey, i want to sutdy medicine outside the uk in a eu country which offer MD, with this will i still be able to become a doctor/GP/Sergein in the UK or not. The university is recognised by the GMC. Thanks

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