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Reply 80

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by Bluth.
Out of interest, do you guys talk much about your research with family members?

I'm very quickly working out who out of my family is/isn't receptive to conversations about research/uni/science etc. Strangely, my identical twin sister (who took the same undergrad degree course) is the least interested- not that I blame her. My Dad, on the other hand, seems genuinely fascinated. We send each other cool (:tongue:) articles on statistics and issues in scientific research :biggrin: My grandparents try hard to keep up with what I am doing and can handle the 'bigger picture' side of things, which I really admire.

It's funny how just mentioning a PhD changes how people interact with you...


All my nuclear family have gathered that it's world-music-but-not-really-world-music. My mum has a bit of a grasp on it but similar to Craghy's father, she's close enough to the subject to think she gets it, without quite getting it at all :erm:

To be fair though, I still can't tell you what my sister's PhD was on. And I did all the bloody references for it :colondollar:

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by The Lyceum
Hm mine tends to be divided thusly

"I study the Classics"
"Oh like Jane Austen?"

or

"I study the ancient world"
"like Dinosaurs"?


:teehee:

Reply 81

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by Bluth.
Oooh I think I would have been very tempted, but I'm not sure how the whole travelling/conference thing works yet.



The ones I go to are industry conferences not academic ones, but economics/finance is a field which lends itself very well to conferences where you have both academics and practitioners presenting. This way I feed my innate nerdiness (I've met a Nobel prizewinner and have him sign my book, inter alia :colondollar:, as well as some other top academics*) while being able to justify my company paying to send me :biggrin:

*For those who know Reinhart and Rogoff, I am inordinately excited that Carmen Reinhart is coming to present at a conference here next month. I can't wait to have her signature next to Rogoff's in my book :redface:. I know the conference organisers and am desperately hoping I get invited to a dinner with her!

Reply 82

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by sj27
The ones I go to are industry conferences not academic ones, but economics/finance is a field which lends itself very well to conferences where you have both academics and practitioners presenting. This way I feed my innate nerdiness (I've met a Nobel prizewinner and have him sign my book, inter alia :colondollar:, as well as some other top academics*) while being able to justify my company paying to send me :biggrin:

*For those who know Reinhart and Rogoff, I am inordinately excited that Carmen Reinhart is coming to present at a conference here next month. I can't wait to have her signature next to Rogoff's in my book :redface:. I know the conference organisers and am desperately hoping I get invited to a dinner with her!


Aaahhhh so jeeeaaalllous. Serious question - if I sent you a book would you get one signed for me too? :o:

Reply 83

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by aeterno
Not necessarily about my research (because I'm not doing any :tongue:) but I do get A LOT of comments when people find out I'm in the War Studies dept.

'Girls shouldn't study such topics'
'Oh. So you support wars then?!' (they then proceed to go on a rant about why war is wrong)
'Ugh, I always hated history at school'
'HAHA! What do you do?! Repeatedly learn about WWI and WWII?! They are the only wars that have mattered, right?!'

Or if I tell them my course name, it's all:
'What's that?'
'Oh. So you're a naive pacifist then?!' (cue rant about how ridiculous I'm being in 'my views' and that wars are inevitable etc. etc.)
'Why would you study about PEAS!?' (alright, they most likely misheard me but still :colonhash:)
'You going to work for MI5/MI6 then?'
'So...you're going to bomb violent people?'

I've taken to telling people that I work at McDonald's now and watch them struggle to swiftly change the subject :colonhash:


Haha, I'm not even doing my own research yet and I'm starting to feel this. When asked at work by customers what I do other than this dull job, I tell them about my MSc in a cancer related field I get
"Ooooh! So you're going to cure cancer?!?!"
My response "Oh, no it's more a focus on how cancer works. It's actually just Molecular Pathology and Genomics."
"huh? In English?" :curious:
"I'm going to cure cancer" :facepalm:

It does irritate me when people come in to stores, just assume you have failed at life so ended up as a store assisstant and proceed to treat you like a moron. :angry:

Luckily my sister is interested in the same field so I do have someone to talk to about it :u:

Reply 84

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by IlexAquifolium
Aaahhhh so jeeeaaalllous. Serious question - if I sent you a book would you get one signed for me too? :o:


If I can organise to meet her, which I should be able to, of course!! Conference is 23 Jan, so you'll need to courier it - our postal service rather less than reliable - if you can get to London can do via our office) - I'll drop you a mail early next year once I can chat to the guys!

Reply 85

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by Zorg
Haha, I'm not even doing my own research yet and I'm starting to feel this. When asked at work by customers what I do other than this dull job, I tell them about my MSc in a cancer related field I get
"Ooooh! So you're going to cure cancer?!?!"
My response "Oh, no it's more a focus on how cancer works. It's actually just Molecular Pathology and Genomics."
"huh? In English?" :curious:
"I'm going to cure cancer" :facepalm:

It does irritate me when people come in to stores, just assume you have failed at life so ended up as a store assisstant and proceed to treat you like a moron. :angry:

Luckily my sister is interested in the same field so I do have someone to talk to about it :u:


Oh gosh I can relate to the whole store assistant thing! I've had people ask me how old I am and when I tell them and confirm that I do have a degree they tend to roll their eyes and say 'Well, it can't have been a very useful degree if you're working in a shop!' Then when I tell them that I'm only working there to fund my MA they say that I'm being a snob...well, ok then. Some even accuse me of further wasting taxpayers' money by doing another 'useless' degree - the amount of effort it takes to not just yell at them/kick them out of the shop/shove whatever items they bought up their arse...:unimpressed:

Reply 86

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by aeterno
Oh gosh I can relate to the whole store assistant thing! I've had people ask me how old I am and when I tell them and confirm that I do have a degree they tend to roll their eyes and say 'Well, it can't have been a very useful degree if you're working in a shop!' Then when I tell them that I'm only working there to fund my MA they say that I'm being a snob...well, ok then. Some even accuse me of further wasting taxpayers' money by doing another 'useless' degree - the amount of effort it takes to not just yell at them/kick them out of the shop/shove whatever items they bought up their arse...:unimpressed:


Oh, don't even get me started on the fools who think I'm wasting tax payers money. I'm working because every penny is coming out of my pocket. I don't claim any benefits/loans from the government, which they don't seem to understand. :angry:
I've yet to have anyone call me a snob, how did they work that one out? :lolwut: Most of my colleagues joke about me being a snob, I'm from Oxford and I work in inner London now, so apparently I'm posh :rolleyes:

I've mainly just had people who think a lot of themselves and therefore feel that anyone who works in a store is not worth their time and effort. Just wait until I do cure cancer, they'll know then... :colone:

This is turning in to a right old moan, sorry! :tongue:

Reply 87

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by Zorg
Oh, don't even get me started on the fools who think I'm wasting tax payers money. I'm working because every penny is coming out of my pocket. I don't claim any benefits/loans from the government, which they don't seem to understand. :angry:
I've yet to have anyone call me a snob, how did they work that one out? :lolwut: Most of my colleagues joke about me being a snob, I'm from Oxford and I work in inner London now, so apparently I'm posh :rolleyes:

I've mainly just had people who think a lot of themselves and therefore feel that anyone who works in a store is not worth their time and effort. Just wait until I do cure cancer, they'll know then... :colone:

This is turning in to a right old moan, sorry! :tongue:


Exactly! They still seem to think that the govt is giving out loans for PG study and just can't seem to wrap their head around the fact that students do often have to pay out of their own pocket!
I really don't know - I was being polite about it so :dontknow: Perhaps their argument was going down the pan and they said any old thing that came out of their mouth :tongue:
Yep, there is always this 'I'm better than you' attitude that is really, really grating...sometimes I hand their change to their children (if they have any) as revenge...seeing the parents attempt to pick it up from the various places it has landed is entertaining to say the least :teehee:

Occasional moaning is good for the soul...or something :ninja:

Reply 88

So, the sum cost of my stupidy this month has just doubled with an emergency locksmith's visit. Grand month total: 1842,47€. I really can't take any mroe of this :frown:

Reply 89

Hmm.. I've never had the you-work-behind-a-till-and-are-therefore-a-lowlife thing. I've had rudeness a lot, but I always assumed it was just because the person was in a hurry and wasn't really concentrating, and that if you're in a uniform and serving stuff, you are the equivalent of a machine that people are meant to press in order to dispense what they want. Quickly! And perfectly.

Are you sure they think all that stuff? Or are you just reading it in.


Original post
by hobnob
PRSOM:frown:

:ditto:
Original post
by aeterno
Not necessarily about my research (because I'm not doing any :tongue:) but I do get A LOT of comments when people find out I'm in the War Studies dept.

'Girls shouldn't study such topics'
'Oh. So you support wars then?!' (they then proceed to go on a rant about why war is wrong)
'Ugh, I always hated history at school'
'HAHA! What do you do?! Repeatedly learn about WWI and WWII?! They are the only wars that have mattered, right?!'

Or if I tell them my course name, it's all:
'What's that?'
'Oh. So you're a naive pacifist then?!' (cue rant about how ridiculous I'm being in 'my views' and that wars are inevitable etc. etc.)
'Why would you study about PEAS!?' (alright, they most likely misheard me but still :colonhash:)
'You going to work for MI5/MI6 then?'
'So...you're going to bomb violent people?'

I've taken to telling people that I work at McDonald's now and watch them struggle to swiftly change the subject :colonhash:

The second is my most likely reaction :p: Although I think it would be more a case of me instantly thinking 'Oh dear I hope she isn't pro-military' and then me asking you indirect questions over time to suss that out...
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by sj27
When I learnt "Silent Night" in kindergarten, I thought it was "sleep in heavenly peas". For the longest time the carol gave me images of happy cherubs blissfully asleep in their big green spheres floating in the sky :biggrin:

:lol:
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by apotoftea
Mine tends to get the response of 'so you're looking at stamps?' Or LOTS of questions about Antony Trollope. Who I barely know anything about and have never read of his work.
I know I must have already asked if you read Going Postal, but I can't remember the answer. :o: Perhaps you've had time to read it since then? :puppyeyes:

I've had a few weeks of meeting a lot of people and I've found it's 100x easier to say 'I'm a researcher' than to say 'I'm doing a PhD' when I get the 'so what do you do?' question.
Oh yes.

Reply 90

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by Craghyrax
The second is my most likely reaction :p: Although I think it would be more a case of me instantly thinking 'Oh dear I hope she isn't pro-military' and then me asking you indirect questions over time to suss that out...


Haha, I can assure you that the majority in the dept are definitely not pro-military :tongue: (The ones that are get absolutely *******ed for it...and they're usually the American students - yes, they're Republicans too :tongue:)

Reply 91

Original post
by Zorg
Haha, I'm not even doing my own research yet and I'm starting to feel this. When asked at work by customers what I do other than this dull job, I tell them about my MSc in a cancer related field I get
"Ooooh! So you're going to cure cancer?!?!"
My response "Oh, no it's more a focus on how cancer works. It's actually just Molecular Pathology and Genomics."
"huh? In English?" :curious:
"I'm going to cure cancer" :facepalm:

It does irritate me when people come in to stores, just assume you have failed at life so ended up as a store assisstant and proceed to treat you like a moron. :angry:

Luckily my sister is interested in the same field so I do have someone to talk to about it :u:



How about "No, I'm on Cancers side!" for one hell of a reaction to that?

Also, the only people I've ever heard complain about taxpayer's money etc tend to...well not pay any tax to be honest and in fact cost us more and give back a hell of a lot let, so **** them.

Reply 92

Original post
by aeterno
Haha, I can assure you that the majority in the dept are definitely not pro-military :tongue: (The ones that are get absolutely *******ed for it...and they're usually the American students - yes, they're Republicans too :tongue:)

Have to say, that doesn't surprise me on either count :smile:

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by The Lyceum

Also, the only people I've ever heard complain about taxpayer's money etc tend to...well not pay any tax to be honest and in fact cost us more and give back a hell of a lot let, so **** them.

I'd like to, but they vote :colonhash: So it matters.

Reply 93

Original post
by aeterno
Exactly! They still seem to think that the govt is giving out loans for PG study and just can't seem to wrap their head around the fact that students do often have to pay out of their own pocket!
I really don't know - I was being polite about it so :dontknow: Perhaps their argument was going down the pan and they said any old thing that came out of their mouth :tongue:
Yep, there is always this 'I'm better than you' attitude that is really, really grating...sometimes I hand their change to their children (if they have any) as revenge...seeing the parents attempt to pick it up from the various places it has landed is entertaining to say the least :teehee:

Occasional moaning is good for the soul...or something :ninja:


Haha, we don't handle much cash if any so unfortunately I can't use that tactic. If I get really pissed off today I might tell their kids Santa doesn't exist and see them deal with it. :colone:

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by Craghyrax
Hmm.. I've never had the you-work-behind-a-till-and-are-therefore-a-lowlife thing. I've had rudeness a lot, but I always assumed it was just because the person was in a hurry and wasn't really concentrating, and that if you're in a uniform and serving stuff, you are the equivalent of a machine that people are meant to press in order to dispense what they want. Quickly! And perfectly.

Are you sure they think all that stuff? Or are you just reading it in.



Pretty sure. Some will perk up a lot when they learn I'm at uni but most will treat me like an idiot, such as ask another, more senior member of staff to do it instead of me. I've actually had a lady ask the manager to do the transaction because I didn't seem to know what I was doing, what was really happening was she was refusing to give me the information I needed to process her transaction :facepalm: Both me an my manager ignored her and carried on.

I hate how impatient people are these days. Some people do end up waiting an awfully long time, but I had one lady scream at me because she'd been waiting 10 mins for me to finish her transaction. I wasn't even standing still, she just had issues. :angry:

I also hate the "I-need-to-vent-my-anger-on-someone-and-you-are-closest-I-don't-blame-you-though-so-this-is-ok" mentality. I don't care who you blame, just stop screaming at me.

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by The Lyceum
How about "No, I'm on Cancers side!" for one hell of a reaction to that?

Also, the only people I've ever heard complain about taxpayer's money etc tend to...well not pay any tax to be honest and in fact cost us more and give back a hell of a lot less, so **** them.


:p: I will use that one today if I can and end with an overly jubilant "MERRY CHRISTMAS!!"

Reply 94

Original post
by Zorg

Pretty sure. Some will perk up a lot when they learn I'm at uni but most will treat me like an idiot, such as ask another, more senior member of staff to do it instead of me. I've actually had a lady ask the manager to do the transaction because I didn't seem to know what I was doing, what was really happening was she was refusing to give me the information I needed to process her transaction :facepalm: Both me an my manager ignored her and carried on.

I hate how impatient people are these days. Some people do end up waiting an awfully long time, but I had one lady scream at me because she'd been waiting 10 mins for me to finish her transaction. I wasn't even standing still, she just had issues. :angry:

I also hate the "I-need-to-vent-my-anger-on-someone-and-you-are-closest-I-don't-blame-you-though-so-this-is-ok" mentality. I don't care who you blame, just stop screaming at me.


Fair enough, but I do think that a lot of these instances can be explained by people just being selfish morons. I don't think it additionally means that they think you're stupid/incompetant/a loser. In fact a lot of this stuff comes down to customers NOT thinking about the staff at all, and forgetting that they're human beings, and just seeing them as minions that are obliged by capitalism to pander to their every wish, and make them feel like they're 'always right'.
I've had a lot of people treat me like **** in my various jobs. I dealt with the public most directly when I was a barista for a large coffee chain in South Africa, and I had plenty of people being rude and mean to me. But I never thought that this meant they actually thought that I was stupid or uneducated. I just saw this as a sign that they were immature people who have poor self control and are in a social situation with insufficient sanctions to prevent them from taking things out on people.

I can't say I'm a model customer myself. Last night I was sarcastic to a train conductor at Cambridge. We'd travelled from Kings Cross to Cambridge and had been told at the beginning of the journey that we needed to be in the front four carriages in order to continue to Ely. But there was no sign or communication regarding which carriage we were in. We tried walking ahead, but we hit a dead end thought we might be at the front. Also we couldn't find a conductor. So we spent the whole journey stressing about that moment where we'd have to move all our heavy bags full of Christmas stuff. At Cambridge it suddenly became apparent that we were actually at the back when a conductor leaned in and shouted 'everybody off, you need to be at the front'. In every other train journey I've encountered where it splits, there's either a visual display saying which coach you're in, or an announcement that gets repeated after each stop. So on the way out I sarcastically said 'it would be nice if we could have had SOME indication of which coach we were in earlier. I've been stressing since Kings Cross, and have tried to figure it out, but we couldn't'. I now feel guilty for taking out my stress on the conductor, and know I should have either written to the rail operator or not bothered. I certainly didn't have any negative views about the conductor, or look down on her. I merely lacked self control, and vented my frustration with the rail operator to her.

Irritatingly we live in a situation where its standard for companies to provide really crap service because they're cutting costs, and for them to expect their staff to take the flak for it.

Reply 95

I know I must have already asked if you read Going Postal, but I can't remember the answer. :o: Perhaps you've had time to read it since then? :puppyeyes:


I keep forgetting about it - shall make it a New Year's Resolution to read!


Re: working in retail. I worked with 2 other grads and our customers just always seemed surprised. Still had customers who assumed we were stupid though or couldn't spell which does grate after a while.

Reply 96

Since I probably will be going offline soon and won't return til 26th/27th: Merry Christmas/Season's Greetings everyone :grouphugs:

Reply 97

:santa3: Merry Christmas

Reply 98

:holly: Merry Christmas everyone! :holly:

White one here in the New York area, which is exciting. Hope people aren't effected by what looks like some extensive rain recently.
(edited 12 years ago)

Reply 99

Merry Christmas to all.

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