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    OK, I am fascinated with Brazil. I know there are dangers- inequality, crime, critters, heatwaves etc. But I would love to go one time. Has anyone been or is anyone of Brazilian parentage? Can anyone give me advice?
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    Advice: Don't go, the downsides and dangers outweigh the attraction (which is basically just the weather and the beaches, which you can have in Europe, too). You'll only get robbed/stabbed/killed.
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    (Original post by TitanicTeutonicPhil)
    Advice: Don't go, the downsides and dangers outweigh the attraction (which is basically just the weather and the beaches, which you can have in Europe, too). You'll only get robbed/stabbed/killed.
    You can;t have the scale, the grandeur of Rio, though, I mean I've seen it on TV but it looks stunning, some of the scenery too. Sao Paolo would be great to see too, not to mention so much country and coast. It's the music, accents, language, women etc too.

    Have you been?

    As an aside, the place I would go I haven;t yet second to Brazil would be Portugal, although I've been to Spain, which I love, Portugal doesn;t excite me like Brazil does.
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    (Original post by Chillaxer)
    You can;t have the scale, the grandeur of Rio, though, I mean I've seen it on TV but it looks stunning, some of the scenery too. Sao Paolo would be great to see too, not to mention so much country and coast. It's the music, accents, language, women etc too.
    Honestly, everything (good) you have there you can have in Europe (or at least closer).

    Rio is smaller than London, and both Rio and Sao Paulo mainly consist of ugly/dangerous areas you wouldn't want to visit anyway. It does have nice scenery but so does Norway... or southern Europe, if you want warm weather. Brazilian music is played in UK night clubs, Portugese is spoken in Portugal (shocker!) and any language school in the UK, and the women are totally not my type...

    (Original post by Chillaxer)
    Have you been?
    Nope, and would never go.

    (Original post by Chillaxer)
    As an aside, the place I would go I haven;t yet second to Brazil would be Portugal, although I've been to Spain, which I love, Portugal doesn;t excite me like Brazil does.
    Well, try Portugal first and if it doesn't float your boat do what you have to do.
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    (Original post by Chillaxer)
    OK, I am fascinated with Brazil. I know there are dangers- inequality, crime, critters, heatwaves etc. But I would love to go one time. Has anyone been or is anyone of Brazilian parentage? Can anyone give me advice?
    I've been twice, I absolutely love Brazil, going to go back in 2013 and then again in 2016 for the Olympics. Most of Brazil is lovely, the people are kind and pleasant towards tourists and the general attitude of people is great.

    Of course there are areas you just don't go into. The Favelas, for prime example, that are quite prevalent in many cities and towns in Brazil are often very rough and there is a lot of drug-trade/cartel presence there. But stick to the East of the city and its beaches and basically more "touristy" areas and you'll be safe as houses.

    Even then, I don't want to give the Favelas a dirty image; there's lots of pleasant people I met who live in them when I went on both occasions, its just referred to as (with Peckam in London, etc) the 'rougher' part of town. :dontknow:

    Brazil in general though, again, is lovely and I stress to reinforce that most people are wonderful and happy and its a great place to visit. :yep: Rio is the main hub of tourism in Brazil I believe, but Brasilia itself is a wonderful city to visit, its a lovely capital. Lots of Tourism boards charter holidays that span Brazil, rather then sticking you in Rio with a beach and a balcony, unless that's the only thing you want from a holiday.
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    (Original post by TitanicTeutonicPhil)
    Honestly, everything (good) you have there you can have in Europe (or at least closer).

    Rio is smaller than London, and both Rio and Sao Paulo mainly consist of ugly/dangerous areas you wouldn't want to visit anyway. It does have nice scenery but so does Norway... or southern Europe, if you want warm weather. Brazilian music is played in UK night clubs, Portugese is spoken in Portugal (shocker!) and any language school in the UK, and the women are totally not my type...

    Well, try Portugal first and if it doesn't float your boat do what you have to do.
    Brazil is diverse from women, mixed race, plus the south has germanic women who are hot. And yes I know Portguuese is in Portugal, it's just not as good as Brazilian portuguese. And the country seems like it wouldn;t be quite so exciting. I mean it's Europe. I've never been out of western Europe.
    Music yeah, clubs fair enough. Actually Paris is where you can see Brtazilian and world music etc well. I know Rio's smaller than London, I'#m not comparing that, have you seen the pics though, the views are out of this world. But yes, maybe I will do portugal.
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    (Original post by DH-Biker)
    I've been twice, I absolutely love Brazil, going to go back in 2013 and then again in 2016 for the Olympics. Most of Brazil is lovely, the people are kind and pleasant towards tourists and the general attitude of people is great.

    Of course there are areas you just don't go into. The Favelas, for prime example, that are quite prevalent in many cities and towns in Brazil are often very rough and there is a lot of drug-trade/cartel presence there. But stick to the East of the city and its beaches and basically more "touristy" areas and you'll be safe as houses.

    Even then, I don't want to give the Favelas a dirty image; there's lots of pleasant people I met who live in them when I went on both occasions, its just referred to as (with Peckam in London, etc) the 'rougher' part of town. :dontknow:

    Brazil in general though, again, is lovely and I stress to reinforce that most people are wonderful and happy and its a great place to visit. :yep: Rio is the main hub of tourism in Brazil I believe, but Brasilia itself is a wonderful city to visit, its a lovely capital. Lots of Tourism boards charter holidays that span Brazil, rather then sticking you in Rio with a beach and a balcony, unless that's the only thing you want from a holiday.
    Thanks, did you go any smaller places, and also have you been to Sao Paolo??
    Our family knew a guy from there, his Dad was a German who went out to work and never came back he loved it so much.
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    (Original post by Mattywooda)
    I would definitely go. My dad works in Sao Paolo, and recently visited Rio. There are dangerous bits but if you stay to the main places it should be safe enough - especially as they are trying hard with the upcoming Olympics and F1. Apparently Rio is amazing, and the new thing is favella tours. =) Definitely worth a visit.
    Sao Paolo looks like it has great restaraunts, and just stuff to do generally. Some of it looks very wealthy, and it seems huge.From what I can see of the climate, the winter is mild going on our summer temp, and the summer is within bearable range, with loads of rain. I don't know how humid it gets in summer, theirs I mean, our winter.
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    Who cares if I get robbed, stabbed or killed, as long as I get it in with an Adriana Lima look-a-like
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    (Original post by Chillaxer)
    Thanks, did you go any smaller places, and also have you been to Sao Paolo??
    Only very briefly, I'm going back next year to visit there exclusively. But I visited a lot of little places but two of my favourites would be Buzios which is just wonderful. Over a dozen beaches on a peninsula jutting out near Rio.

    Link - Gives you an idea.

    Also, Ubatuba is another which is why I only briefly hit Sao Paulo and its very similar to Buzios; its a 2 and a bit hour drive from Paulo and we just took a bus. It has a small airstrip/airport there though, I believe.

    Link.

    But small, small towns I haven't really seen much of aside from driving through and briefly stopping in. It depends if the above is the size you're after or if you're looking for really out-of-the-way towns and places within the Highlands of Brazil or coastal fishing towns.
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    (Original post by DH-Biker)
    Only very briefly, I'm going back next year to visit there exclusively. But I visited a lot of little places but two of my favourites would be Buzios which is just wonderful. Over a dozen beaches on a peninsula jutting out near Rio.

    Link - Gives you an idea.

    Also, Ubatuba is another which is why I only briefly hit Sao Paulo and its very similar to Buzios; its a 2 and a bit hour drive from Paulo and we just took a bus. It has a small airstrip/airport there though, I believe.

    Link.

    But small, small towns I haven't really seen much of aside from driving through and briefly stopping in. It depends if the above is the size you're after or if you're looking for really out-of-the-way towns and places within the Highlands of Brazil or coastal fishing towns.
    Both look great, especially the second. Do you have to do vaccinations, any problems with dangerous creatures also that you had?
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    (Original post by Chillaxer)
    Both look great, especially the second. Do you have to do vaccinations, any problems with dangerous creatures also that you had?
    Yeah there were several vaccinations I had to get:

    - Hepatitis A & B.

    - Yellow Fever.

    - Malaria.

    - Typhoid

    - Rabies

    These were, mind, not all for the same trip. Yellow Fever, Malaria and Rabies I took the second time because I was spending a lot more time in the rural areas, jungle-trekking and on the rivers. Typhoid is necessary and a Physician will recommend Hepatitis A & B if you visit one before you go.

    During the trekking I had a couple of run-ins with Tree Vipers, but I went with five friends and one of whom, who has lived in Brazil for a decade or so, is friends with - I wouldn't say guide - a Brazilian who spends a lot of his time in the forests and that was as good as. Mind, this was last year and we're all 19-22 so we liked to think we had a reasonable amount of common sense between us and this is really quite important.

    Ensure flaps on tents are all closed, zips are all the way down, you don't try and climb trees; its just being perceptive and thinking ahead. Brazilian rainforests, like Australia, is home to some deadly animals. Snakes, spiders and scorpions are the ones you keep a weather eye out for, but some are tiny; the Brazilian Wandering Spider, supposedly the deadliest in the world is tiny! I was surprised how big one was, it can't have been bigger then the lid of a tin can and spotting that, in undergrowth, with its exoskeleton being as brown as the dead leaves its walking in and around isn't easy; but then it doesn't want to hurt you. Provoking **** is dangerous, wandering aimlessly and turning over rocks, woodstumps, etc is just asking for trouble, but being careful and perceptive is key - We were fine and if our band of vagabonds and retards can dive in and out of rainforests for a week and not suffer any danger whatsoever, anyone else can.

    Again, its just like being in a city; play it safe, play it by ear and don't do anything stupid and just plan ahead.
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    (Original post by DH-Biker)
    Yeah there were several vaccinations I had to get:

    - Hepatitis A & B.

    - Yellow Fever.

    - Malaria.

    - Typhoid

    - Rabies

    These were, mind, not all for the same trip. Yellow Fever, Malaria and Rabies I took the second time because I was spending a lot more time in the rural areas, jungle-trekking and on the rivers. Typhoid is necessary and a Physician will recommend Hepatitis A & B if you visit one before you go.

    During the trekking I had a couple of run-ins with Tree Vipers, but I went with five friends and one of whom, who has lived in Brazil for a decade or so, is friends with - I wouldn't say guide - a Brazilian who spends a lot of his time in the forests and that was as good as. Mind, this was last year and we're all 19-22 so we liked to think we had a reasonable amount of common sense between us and this is really quite important.

    Ensure flaps on tents are all closed, zips are all the way down, you don't try and climb trees; its just being perceptive and thinking ahead. Brazilian rainforests, like Australia, is home to some deadly animals. Snakes, spiders and scorpions are the ones you keep a weather eye out for, but some are tiny; the Brazilian Wandering Spider, supposedly the deadliest in the world is tiny! I was surprised how big one was, it can't have been bigger then the lid of a tin can and spotting that, in undergrowth, with its exoskeleton being as brown as the dead leaves its walking in and around isn't easy; but then it doesn't want to hurt you. Provoking **** is dangerous, wandering aimlessly and turning over rocks, woodstumps, etc is just asking for trouble, but being careful and perceptive is key - We were fine and if our band of vagabonds and retards can dive in and out of rainforests for a week and not suffer any danger whatsoever, anyone else can.

    Again, its just like being in a city; play it safe, play it by ear and don't do anything stupid and just plan ahead.
    Yeah, tbh I wouldn;t have the guts for that, I was just going to do cities and beaches, but I heard you could get the spiders in ruban places a lot too.
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    This all said, the son of a guy I know off was mugged, had no money for them and was killed in Brazil.
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    (Original post by DH-Biker)
    Yeah there were several vaccinations I had to get:

    - Hepatitis A & B.

    - Yellow Fever.

    - Malaria.

    - Typhoid

    - Rabies
    Yeah the well known malaria vaccine? :0
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    (Original post by Mattywooda)
    Yeah the well known malaria vaccine? :0
    Well, pills. :dontknow:

    I had to take Chloroquine over a six week period, one week before going, the week there and four weeks after.

    Granted, not a vaccine, I was under the assumption people would grab the idea it was pills, not a vaccination injection.
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    I've been to Brazil and Portugal and both were amazing!

    In Brazil, spent 3 weeks in Rio and by the time I left there was still lots of stuff to see and do that I hadn't had time to do! Rio was fabulous, I could go on for ages about it.
    Then went on to Ilha Grande, an island a couple of hours south of Rio where there are no cars apart from a police truck or two, and there's loads of rainforest and brilliant beaches. The best beach I have ever seen, was Lopez Mendes beach on Ilha Grande (and I've seen some amazing beaches in Fiji, Thailand, Portugal and Australia...)
    Then went on to Paraty, a very nice colonial town, before carrying on to the Iguassu Falls (ignore those who say that only the Argentine side is worth seeing - sure, that side is truly spectacular, but the Brazilian side is also impressive and well worth seeing. There's lots of lovely walking trails around the falls as well.)
    Finished off at Bonito, (where there's apparently the best freshwater snorkelling and diving in the world - I was low on funds at the time so didn't go, but from the things I heard about it from other people, it sounded amazing) and the Pantanal, an area of wetlands the size of France. There's loads and loads of wildlife in the Pantanal which was great to see, and we went horse trekking and piranha fishing and went on a night walk where there was the most spectacular night sky I've ever seen, so jam packed full of stars you wouldn't believe it. No light pollution at all.
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    (Original post by FormerlyHistoryStudent)
    I've been to Brazil and Portugal and both were amazing!

    In Brazil, spent 3 weeks in Rio and by the time I left there was still lots of stuff to see and do that I hadn't had time to do! Rio was fabulous, I could go on for ages about it.
    Then went on to Ilha Grande, an island a couple of hours south of Rio where there are no cars apart from a police truck or two, and there's loads of rainforest and brilliant beaches. The best beach I have ever seen, was Lopez Mendes beach on Ilha Grande (and I've seen some amazing beaches in Fiji, Thailand, Portugal and Australia...)
    Then went on to Paraty, a very nice colonial town, before carrying on to the Iguassu Falls (ignore those who say that only the Argentine side is worth seeing - sure, that side is truly spectacular, but the Brazilian side is also impressive and well worth seeing. There's lots of lovely walking trails around the falls as well.)
    Finished off at Bonito, (where there's apparently the best freshwater snorkelling and diving in the world - I was low on funds at the time so didn't go, but from the things I heard about it from other people, it sounded amazing) and the Pantanal, an area of wetlands the size of France. There's loads and loads of wildlife in the Pantanal which was great to see, and we went horse trekking and piranha fishing and went on a night walk where there was the most spectacular night sky I've ever seen, so jam packed full of stars you wouldn't believe it. No light pollution at all.
    Sounds amazing, what did you do in Portugal?
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    (Original post by Chillaxer)
    Sounds amazing, what did you do in Portugal?
    I've been to Peniche, a fishing town on the west coast with a fantastic long surfing beach and some great fish restaurants. I camped at a site right next the beach, it was a bit of a walk from the town but was well, well worth it and was cheap as well! We went on a boat trip out to a little rocky island which had the most amazingly clear and turquoise water in the little harbour, it was quite deep but you could see straight to the bottom where there were lots of fish swimming around. There were lots of interesting rock formations around the edge of that island as well.

    I went to Lisbon and Lagos last summer - I've been round the world and seen lots of amazing cities, but Lisbon ranks among the best of them. It's really beautiful, lots of history, loads to see and do. The Castle of St George, narrow & picturesque streets and alleyways in Alfama district; churches with stunning interiors; great museums and art galleries (the Gulbenkian, the Museu do Oriente, the National Museum of Ethnology and the National Maritime Museum were my favourites); delicious custard tarts, the monastery and tower & the Monument to the Discoveries in Belem district; botanic gardens; rides on old yellow trams filling most of the narrow streets; Lisbon's version of Rio's Cristo Redentor, 'Cristo Rei'; the very modern Parque das Nações close to the longest bridge in Europe (which was designed by the same man who built the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco - and you can tell by looking at it) - this area has a casino, lots of restaurants, a shopping centre, cable cars along the long seafront, an oceanarium, and a long row of the flags of all the countries in the world which are lit up at night.... Throughout Lisbon I also loved all the trees with purple blossoms on which made the air smell divine, too. There's great food, shopping and nightlife as well, and I loved the little ginja bars where they only serve shots of ginja (liqueur made from sour cherries, often served in little chocolate cups.) Lisbon is pretty hilly and as a result there are several viewpoints around the city where you get beautiful views over the rest of the city. If you go to Lisbon and see a sign to a 'Miradouro' then follow it - that's Portuguese for a lookout point.

    Lagos is in the Algarve, but is much nicer than Portimao nearby. It is touristy no denying it, but is a truly beautiful little town and has history in it too. There's a series of stunning little cove beaches with really clear water where you can go snorkelling or kayaking in/on, and a lot of amazing rock formations as well. Lots of bars too.
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    OK, I am fascinated with Brazil. I know there are dangers- inequality, crime, critters, heatwaves etc. But I would love to go one time. Has anyone been or is anyone of Brazilian parentage? Can anyone give me advice?
    You want some advice huh? Well, here's what I can tell you. If you are ever in Rio, NEVER TAKE LINHA 485. Chuck Norris is scared of the 485. You have more chance of surviving a nuclear fallout than getting to your stop alive. Either the bus will crash into a ditch...again...or you will be crushed to death by the other 7 million students on board the same bus as you. Michael Schumacher applied to be a bus driver on route 485, but was rejected for not being fast enough. The 485 ignores the traditional time/space convention, instead deciding when it wants to turn up and how long it wants to take. The 485 doesn't actually have a route, it's just the world's largest taxi going anywhere people ask it to. Despite what many people may think, the 485 is actually designed to go around corners on two wheels. The 485 gets is name from its average speed in km/h. BOPE (the elite law enforcement squad in Brazil) managed a very effective cost cutting exercise recently by replacing all their armoured trucks with 485s.

    And don't take a 486 either. This is a 485 wearing a yellow wig. It is still the same red blooded satanist as its brother.

    I have to use a nightlight now, otherwise I have nightmares about the 485 waiting in my closet waiting to kill me while I am sleeping.

    Think I'm joking by the way? IT HAPPENED AGAIN THIS MORNING. They couldn't even last 12 hours into 2013 without crashing. The muggers, the kidnappers, the exploding manholes, they're nothing. They're not a threat at all compared to this monster.


    On a way more serious note, my girlfriend was born and raised in Rio. In the last three months she's been there (she'll be back in the UK next month), she has had two people try (and fail) to rob her, and a gang try (and again fail) to kidnap her. All three were in the Centro (city centre) district. It's really not a great place to be.
 
 
 
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