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    (Original post by Jordie95)
    I thought it was horrible hated the essay .. Proper screwed up!


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    The general defences weren't too bad tho!
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    (Original post by xxm)
    The general defences weren't too bad tho!
    I know I chose insanity and intoxication .. I think I did okay on insanity .. But rubbish on intoxication


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    Hey guys do you think I included everything

    I answered Scenario 2 and thought the exam was okay, time was the main issue. This is the offences I done:

    Question 4
    S.47 ABH, I mentioned how intoxication doesn't apply as ABH is basic intent, I then mentioned consent, and how Jim wouldn't be liable as horseplay is a public exception policy.

    S.20 GBH, I mentioned how intoxication means that it would be S.20 not S.18.

    S.47 ABH, I mentioned how intoxication doesn't apply as it's basic intent. Included DPP V K to show indirect batter.
    Also discussed causation issues

    Question 5
    Murder - Discussed Sir Coke's definition. Intention to cause GBH used Woolin and Vicker.

    Diminished Responsibility - Camplin; age and characteristics can be taken into accont.

    Loss of Control - Mentioned Aluwali and mentioned how the defendant likley felt seriosoly wronged and feared serious violence.

    Question 6

    Insanity Problems - M'Naugten rules are outdated created with limited knowledge, social stigma with insane, D has to prove on balance of probabilities which is against EU 'Innocent until proven guilty' overlap with automatism, position of diabetics and other medical conditions. Insanity Reforms - Change to 'not guilty by reasons of mental disorder' and update legal definition to be the same as medical definition.

    Consent Problems - Should 'Horesplay' really be a public exception policy, hard for jury to find if consent was true and what if V felt pressure to give consent
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    Question 4 - Did s.47 ABH for badly bruised arm - then applied the defence of consent (Horseplay)
    Then s.20 for the cuts suffered by Liam as he pushed him into the window.
    Then argued s.47 psychiatric for Mary (Chan Fook) but pointed out possible issues over Mens Rea,
    Question 5 - Murder (Missed out causation cause I'm a complete and utter fool!) DR - granted. LOC - failed due to reasonable person would not have lost their control/reacted same or similar way. And defence of insanity also failed.
    Question 6 - Did insanity critique and reforms, then intoxication.

    Overall, think it could have gone worse, don't think I've got the A I need for Uni though!
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    (Original post by Shaker1903)
    Question 4 - Did s.47 ABH for badly bruised arm - then applied the defence of consent (Horseplay)
    Then s.20 for the cuts suffered by Liam as he pushed him into the window.
    Then argued s.47 psychiatric for Mary (Chan Fook) but pointed out possible issues over Mens Rea,
    Question 5 - Murder (Missed out causation cause I'm a complete and utter fool!) DR - granted. LOC - failed due to reasonable person would not have lost their control/reacted same or similar way. And defence of insanity also failed.
    Question 6 - Did insanity critique and reforms, then intoxication.

    Overall, think it could have gone worse, don't think I've got the A I need for Uni though!
    Question 5 - You don't normally have to mention causation unless there appears to be an issue in it, such as in the baby pram one in question 4, judging by past mark schemes
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    Question 5 - You don't normally have to mention causation unless there appears to be an issue in it, such as in the baby pram one in question 4, judging by past mark schemes
    Oh splendid! What would the causation issue be in 4?
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    (Original post by Shaker1903)
    Oh splendid! What would the causation issue be in 4?
    ABH to the mother of the child who's pram went rolling down the hill, I said that his actions were more than minimal and but for his actions the woman wouldn't have suffered anxiety and therefore he is liable.

    I don't know why but the scenario made me really laugh xD
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    (Original post by seana39223)
    Hey guys do you think I included everything

    I answered Scenario 2 and thought the exam was okay, time was the main issue. This is the offences I done:

    Question 4
    S.47 ABH, I mentioned how intoxication doesn't apply as ABH is basic intent, I then mentioned consent, and how Jim wouldn't be liable as horseplay is a public exception policy.

    S.20 GBH, I mentioned how intoxication means that it would be S.20 not S.18.

    S.47 ABH, I mentioned how intoxication doesn't apply as it's basic intent. Included DPP V K to show indirect batter.
    Also discussed causation issues

    Question 5
    Murder - Discussed Sir Coke's definition. Intention to cause GBH used Woolin and Vicker.

    Diminished Responsibility - Camplin; age and characteristics can be taken into accont.

    Loss of Control - Mentioned Aluwali and mentioned how the defendant likley felt seriosoly wronged and feared serious violence.

    Question 6

    Insanity Problems - M'Naugten rules are outdated created with limited knowledge, social stigma with insane, D has to prove on balance of probabilities which is against EU 'Innocent until proven guilty' overlap with automatism, position of diabetics and other medical conditions. Insanity Reforms - Change to 'not guilty by reasons of mental disorder' and update legal definition to be the same as medical definition.

    Consent Problems - Should 'Horesplay' really be a public exception policy, hard for jury to find if consent was true and what if V felt pressure to give consent
    Camplin is associated with LOC not DR?
    Also did you talk about causation? Quite a big issue!
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    (Original post by Jordie95)
    I know I chose insanity and intoxication .. I think I did okay on insanity .. But rubbish on intoxication


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    Intoxication is a confusing one though!
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    (Original post by xxm)
    Intoxication is a confusing one though!
    I know .. I forgot to put about public policies


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    (Original post by Jordie95)
    I know .. I forgot to put about public policies


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    I had no idea really so I wrote about the 1993 commission report the 1996 and 2009 commission report, the only thing I missed was fall back offences I didn't know what else to include!
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    I did
    Kyle - s47 because of badly bruised
    Liam - s20/18 decided on s.20 because it was more recklessness
    Mary - s20 because of the severe depression but couldnt remember the case where it was defined as GBH!
    Covered the defence of Intoxication which wouldnt work for any of the offences but S.18 and even then it would be moved down to the corresponding basic intent crime of S.20. Overall, dont think this section when too bad - hopefully a 'clear'.

    I said Helen would get Voluntary Manslaughter considering the similarities with the case of Allhuwallia. This went pretty poorly because I blanked on Voluntary Manslaughter - I blurred together the meanings of Diminished Responsibility and Loss of Control although got points about the belief in sexual infidelity and also the 'slow burn' and battered wife syndrome which covered the buying the fireworks days earlier.

    As for Defences - it was my worst criticism/reform essay. I did Insanity and Self Defence. The Insanity one didn't go too badly, but don't think I got more than a 'some' for Self Defence.
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    (Original post by xxm)
    Camplin is associated with LOC not DR?
    Also did you talk about causation? Quite a big issue!
    Sorry I meant to put Camplin with LOC, and I discussed causation but only briefly in relation to murder, saying that legal and factual causation is satisfied.
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    (Original post by seana39223)
    Sorry I meant to put Camplin with LOC, and I discussed causation but only briefly in relation to murder, saying that legal and factual causation is satisfied.
    Sounds good!
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    (Original post by xxm)
    I had no idea really so I wrote about the 1993 commission report the 1996 and 2009 commission report, the only thing I missed was fall back offences I didn't know what else to include!
    There's soo much to write in soo little time


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    (Original post by xxm)
    Sounds good!
    Thanks, I'm pretty confident (hope that doesn't sound cocky).
    I got a new teacher this year who is brilliant, and I'm resitting my AS Unit 2 (I got a C in Unit 2 and a B in the AS Overall) so I'm hopping to get an A
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    (Original post by xxm)
    Camplin is associated with LOC not DR?
    Also did you talk about causation? Quite a big issue!
    Which causation point is this?
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    (Original post by Gallifreyan95)
    Which causation point is this?
    Factual and legal have to be proven in any murder case, a defo to include in the exam!
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    (Original post by xxm)
    Factual and legal have to be proven in any murder case, a defo to include in the exam!
    If you look at past mark schemes you only have to mention causatiom if there appears to be an issue relating to it. Causation is an issue in all result crimes technically

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    (Original post by xxm)
    Factual and legal have to be proven in any murder case, a defo to include in the exam!
    I only mention causation if there is a problem with it - I just wouldnt have enough time if you've got to talk about it when there isnt a problem!
 
 
 
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