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    (Original post by TheInvincibles14)
    Your embarrassing yourself. If your going to troll, at least do it in an intelligent manner. Like Tommyjw on the Arsenal thread. You just come across as dumb, like one of those guys at the pub who thinks he knows everything but in reality is extremely clueless.
    Lol this he is absolutely clueless about football

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    Funny thing you can own Arsenal fans all day when talking about football but as soon as you say Wilshere isn't the greatest thing to happen to sport you get called a troll.
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    Gerrard and players like Barry and Parker are so overrated by the English commentators/pundits, they're fools they only praise/see players getting dirty and tracking back, thats why they loved Rooney, they're not clever enough to understand the importance of players like Scholes/Carrick and see how them playing deadly accurate balls to relieve pressure or always gliding into spaces to give a team mate an option of a simple pass, not saying that getting dirty and tracking back is not important but the commentators in England appreciate it much more than the style of play of players like Scholes therefore they were never rated by the press or public until they came to there senses by seeing players like Xavi/Pirlo getting all the international recognition, but it was too late as Scholes had retired and Hodgson would rather pick Henderson over Carrick for the WC.
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    (Original post by mdajoka)
    Its not just Iniesta, Please read...

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    In the last 15 to 20 years the best central midfielder that I have seen — the most complete — is Scholes. I have spoken with Xabi Alonso about this many times. Scholes is a spectacular player who has everything. He can play the final pass, he can score, he is strong, he never gets knocked off the ball and he doesn’t give possession away. If he had been Spanish then maybe he would have been valued more.
    Xavi

    My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder.
    Zinedine Zidane

    Rooney is one of the best players in the world and I love watching him play. But if you had to pick out only one, then for their history and for all that they have achieved it would have to be Paul Scholes or Ryan Giggs. They are two shining examples for any player.
    Andres Iniesta

    Everywhere I go the coaches all tell me that Scholsey is the player they admire. But if they think they’ll get him they’re wasting their time! Paul is a Manc lad pure and simple. He loves the club and there’s no chance of him leaving here. If ever he decided to go there would be a stampede, but he won’t be going, he’s here for life.
    Sir Alex Ferguson (Jan 2003)

    I’m not the best, Paul Scholes is.
    Edgar Davids, in his prime

    I told Moratti Scholes is a “mission impossible” man. It’s more than money with him. He was born just a few blocks away from Old Trafford. It`s about wearing United’s colours.
    Inter owner Massimo Moratti’s adviser, Pino Pagliara (July 2000)

    Out of everyone at Manchester United, I would pick out Scholes – he is the best midfielder of his generation. I would have loved to have played alongside him.
    Pep Guardiola

    I tell anyone who asks me – Scholes is the best English player.
    Laurent Blanc

    An amazingly gifted player who remained an unaffected human being.
    Roy Keane

    I have no hesitation in putting a name to the embodiment of all that I think is best about football. It’s Paul Scholes. Players like Denis Law and George Best who I enjoyed so much as team-mates and now, finally, players I have watched closely in the Alex Ferguson era. And in so many ways Scholes is my favourite. I love his nous and conviction that he will find a way to win, to make the killer pass or produce the decisive volley.
    Sir Bobby Charlton

    The player in the Premiership I admire most? Easy – Scholes.
    Patrick Vieira

    He is the one whose level I aspire to. He is the best player in the Premier League.
    Cesc Fabregas

    I can’t understand why Scholes has never won the player of the year award. He should have won it long ago. Maybe it’s because he doesn’t seek the limelight like some of the other ‘stars’.
    Thierry Henry

    Nobody else in the world can play the way Scholes does. The passes he produces all over the field and the way he changes the game is brilliant. Every manager would like him. But luckily he is here and playing with us. Paul practices that all the time. When he has finished training he always goes out and shoots.
    Dimitar Berbatov

    Why isn’t he playing for England? It is crazy. Only in England. Scholes is a great, great player. So experienced and still, for me, one of the best in the world in midfield. Manchester United are lucky to have him.
    Jose Mourinho

    Paul Scholes had the best football brain I’d ever seen in a kid. Let’s face it. Paul Scholes is in a class of its own.
    Brian Kidd

    Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team – that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. He would have been one of the first players I’d have bought, given the chance.
    Marcello Lippi

    Scholes is undoubtedly the best midfielder of his generation.
    Zinedine Zidane

    He is a very complete, spectacular footballer. He always fights for the ball and tries to lose his marker to help his team-mates – either to defend or to have a shot on goal. For any football player in the Premiership, Scholes is a player you want to emulate. I would happily end my career with the medals that Scholes has. I am young and I hope that I will be able to surpass him – but it is not going to be easy.
    Cesc Fabregas

    Juan Sebasticn Veron while at Chelsea being asked in an interview who’s the best English player : “Paul Scholes.”

    Paul Scholes is just fantastic. When you play alongside him, you realise what a special talent he is.
    Michael Carrick

    Very few players can do that, but Scholes is one of them – and I knew he was one of them. That’s why, without question, I think Paul Scholes is the best player in England. He’s got the best skills, the best brain. No one can match him.
    Sir Alex Ferguson

    England have lost their best player
    George Best after Paul retired from international football

    There isn’t a player of his mould anywhere in the world.
    Glen Hoddle

    For me, it’s Paul Scholes. He’ll do ridiculous things in training like say, “You see that tree over there?” – it’ll be 40 yards away – “I’m going to hit it”. And he’ll do it. Everyone at the club considers him the best.”
    Rio Ferdinand

    I wouldn’t swap Paul Scholes for anybody. He is quite simply the most complete footballer I have ever played with. He is the best.
    Gary Neville

    He’s always in the right position, always seems to be at the end of the box when the ball drops in. The complete midfielder – when he’s fit, he’s the best. Some go missing but he’s in the right place at the right time. He’s my favourite player of all-time, unbelievable. If you give him a chance it’s a goal, isn’t it?
    Micah Richards

    We won’t ever see another one like Paul Scholes. He is a legend and a real benchmark. He is not interested in the modern-day footballer’s life off the pitch, but he is a world-class player on it. He has probably never really got the true recognition he deserved outside of Manchester United because he never did the media. He didn’t do interviews and never put himself out for things like that. I cannot believe he has never been nominated for World, European or domestic individual honours because in his prime he was scoring 20 goals a season from midfield. It is astonishing he has never won a personal award, but given the choice of winning something and then having to get up and do the speech, I think he would rather not have won them!
    Darren Fletcher

    He’s the best one- or two-touch passer in the country. He sees the game unlike any other player.
    Terry Venables

    If you ask footballers to pick out the player they most admire, so many of them will pick Paul Scholes. He can tackle, and his passing and shooting is of the highest level. He’s the most consistent and naturally gifted player we’ve had for a long, long time.
    Alan Shearer

    Paul Scholes has been the best England midfield player for 30-odd years. You’d probably have to go back to Bobby Charlton to find someone who could do as much as Scholes. When the ball arrives at his feet he could tell you where every player on that pitch is at that moment. His awareness is superb.
    Gordon Strachan

    Paul, for me, is the best player in the England team. It worries teams. Speak to any other international team and they will single Paul out as England’s key player. For me, he doesn’t get the full credit that he deserves. He is a world-class player and deserves to be up there with the likes of Zidane and Figo.
    Phil Neville

    Scholes is one of the most complete footballers I’ve ever seen. His one-touch play is phenomenal. Whenever I have played against him, I never felt I could get close to him.
    Eidur Gudjohnsen

    For years Paul Scholes has been one of the best players in the Premiership. He’s incredible. He has always been under-rated throughout his career. He’s a team player, a one and two-touch footballer who makes good decisions on the pitch and makes his team play.
    Thierry Henry

    He has an awareness of what’s happening around him on the edge of the box which is better than most players. As a kid he always had a knack of arriving in the penalty area just at the right time, but he’s proving just as effective from outside the box because he’s using his experience in the right way. It doesn’t matter who I am thinking about bringing into my midfield, Paul Scholes will be included, as he would in any side in the world.
    Sir Alex Ferguson

    Also this by Ronaldo:moon:

    "When we were in training, I used to do a lot of tricks which hardly any players at the club could do. Once i was showing my skills to Scholes. After i finished it, Scholes took the ball and pointed to a tree which was about 50m from where we were standing. He said, I'm going to hit it in one shot. He kicked and hit the tree. He asked me to do the same; I kicked about 10 times, but still couldn't hit it, with that Accuracy. He smiled and left."
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    (Original post by Tommyjw)
    Funny thing you can own Arsenal fans all day when talking about football but as soon as you say Wilshere isn't the greatest thing to happen to sport you get called a troll.
    Since when was Wilshere the greatest thing to happen to sport? He's a good player but clearly overrated by both the media and Arsenal fans. No doubt that he's much better than Cleverley though, and if you could choose one English player from the other top teams to join United it would probably be Wilshere. So stop being a hypocrite :facepalm2:
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    (Original post by TheInvincibles14)
    Since when was Wilshere the greatest thing to happen to sport? He's a good player but clearly overrated by both the media and Arsenal fans. No doubt that he's much better than Cleverley though, and if you could choose one English player from the other top teams to join United it would probably be Wilshere. So stop being a hypocrite :facepalm2:
    I liked the part where you called me a hypocrite when it doesn't apply to anything that has been said.
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    (Original post by Tommyjw)
    I liked the part where you called me a hypocrite when it doesn't apply to anything that has been said.
    You said that Arsenal fans believe Wilshere is the best thing to happen to sport, which implies that you wouldn't take him at United as you think he's overrated, even though he's better than all of your midfielders.
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    (Original post by TheInvincibles14)
    You said that Arsenal fans believe Wilshere is the best thing to happen to sport, which implies that you wouldn't take him at United as you think he's overrated, even though he's better than all of your midfielders.
    Carrick.jpeg

    Don't take my word for it, ask his peers
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    (Original post by TheInvincibles14)
    You said that Arsenal fans believe Wilshere is the best thing to happen to sport, which implies that you wouldn't take him at United as you think he's overrated, even though he's better than all of your midfielders.
    Not sure where the link between Wilshere not being the best thing to happen to sport and not wanting him at United is...
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    (Original post by TheInvincibles14)
    You said that Arsenal fans believe Wilshere is the best thing to happen to sport, which implies that you wouldn't take him at United as you think he's overrated, even though he's better than all of your midfielders.
    How does that imply anything of the sort?

    + He isn't better than Carrick
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    (Original post by Tommyjw)
    How does that imply anything of the sort?

    + He isn't better than Carrick
    If you were to give Hodgson a choice between Wilshere and Carrick for the 2014 WC, he would choose Wilshere no questions asked. A much more dynamic player. May not have been the best midfielder this year but clearly has more talent, and will be the best midfielder in England for the next 10 years or so if he has no injuries.
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    (Original post by TheInvincibles14)
    If you were to give Hodgson a choice between Wilshere and Carrick for the 2014 WC, he would choose Wilshere no questions asked. A much more dynamic player. May not have been the best midfielder this year but clearly has more talent, and will be the best midfielder in England for the next 10 years or so if he has no injuries.
    Except for the fact international competitions are based on current ability, not an assumed ability of talent in the future.
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    (Original post by TheInvincibles14)
    If you were to give Hodgson a choice between Wilshere and Carrick for the 2014 WC, he would choose Wilshere no questions asked. A much more dynamic player. May not have been the best midfielder this year but clearly has more talent, and will be the best midfielder in England for the next 10 years or so if he has no injuries.
    I'd choose both tbh

    Carrick is better ATM IMO especially in the role that he plays


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    (Original post by cheetahs56)
    Also this by Ronaldo:moon:

    "When we were in training, I used to do a lot of tricks which hardly any players at the club could do. Once i was showing my skills to Scholes. After i finished it, Scholes took the ball and pointed to a tree which was about 50m from where we were standing. He said, I'm going to hit it in one shot. He kicked and hit the tree. He asked me to do the same; I kicked about 10 times, but still couldn't hit it, with that Accuracy. He smiled and left."
    Whilst I enjoy reading players quoted praises for Paul Scholes, lets stick to the ones that are actually true.
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    (Original post by mdajoka)
    Whilst I enjoy reading players quoted praises for Paul Scholes, lets stick to the ones that are actually true.
    Huh?
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    (Original post by cheetahs56)
    Huh?
    What part of my response are you confused about?
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    (Original post by mdajoka)
    What part of my response are you confused about?
    The part that said, 'let's stick to the ones that are true'
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    (Original post by cheetahs56)
    The part that said, 'let's stick to the ones that are true'
    Well that implies that what you wrote:

    "When we were in training, I used to do a lot of tricks which hardly any players at the club could do. Once i was showing my skills to Scholes. After i finished it, Scholes took the ball and pointed to a tree which was about 50m from where we were standing. He said, I'm going to hit it in one shot. He kicked and hit the tree. He asked me to do the same; I kicked about 10 times, but still couldn't hit it, with that Accuracy. He smiled and left."

    is false.

    Unless you have some proof otherwise.
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    (Original post by Tommyjw)
    Except for the fact international competitions are based on current ability, not an assumed ability of talent in the future.
    So you mean like current ability like Wilshere's motm vs Brazil 2 months back or turning out extremely solid, with a few standout, performances this season?

    Carrick is nearly 32, but Wilshere would already have won more caps by the age of 22 had be been fit last season. Quit hating.
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    (Original post by mdajoka)
    Well that implies that what you wrote:

    "When we were in training, I used to do a lot of tricks which hardly any players at the club could do. Once i was showing my skills to Scholes. After i finished it, Scholes took the ball and pointed to a tree which was about 50m from where we were standing. He said, I'm going to hit it in one shot. He kicked and hit the tree. He asked me to do the same; I kicked about 10 times, but still couldn't hit it, with that Accuracy. He smiled and left."

    is false.

    Unless you have some proof otherwise.
    Just type in ronaldo scholes story on google


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