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    (Original post by SciFiRory)
    £20m or less would be a good price imo, Baines is at his peak and will be for the next 3-4 seasons at least, I would imagine he would be a starter for us as well, and he knows the new manager, given all that I think £20m or less in the current market is very reasonable.
    Not sure I'd agree with that. Around 29 is the age where many a fullback has fallen apart.

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    Listen guys, If Evra was sold to Monoco for £10 million and we buy someone who is at a Younger age and ADDS to the team more (great freekicks) for around £15 million max. That means getting a player admittedly better than Evra and only cost us £5 MILLION (net)!
    I would imagine Baines is as much a free kick specialist as Ashley Young or Ronaldo. That is to say, they score one in about 20 attempts and everyone raves about them.
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    (Original post by MEPLUS-->YOU)
    Are you really? We are talking about Evra and Baines who are left backs.
    And she was complaining that our first signing might be Baines, which it won't be.
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    (Original post by DaveSmith99)
    And she was complaining that our first signing might be Baines, which it won't be.
    Sorry. The fact that you just posted a picture could be interpreted in many different ways.
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    Baines would be a craP addition
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    Not keen on Baines. Especially if we would have to pay more than the price that was supposedly rejected.

    I'd rather keep Evra.
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    (Original post by NathanW18)
    Not keen on Baines. Especially if we would have to pay more than the price that was supposedly rejected.

    I'd rather keep Evra.
    Agree with this, he's 28 for ****s sake. Save the money, we need to save up for Ronaldo!!!!

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    (Original post by cheetahs56)
    Agree with this, he's 28 for ****s sake. Save the money, we need to save up for Ronaldo!!!!

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    Why buy Ronaldo if you have an issue with signing 28 year olds?
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    (Original post by Tommyjw)
    Why buy Ronaldo if you have an issue with signing 28 year olds?
    Because... Ronaldo's Ronaldo I suppose Plus i like Evra, he can get another season or 2 and we have Fabio!

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    Just can't understand there's been nothing official about a cm to god sake
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    I just heard that Everton have rejected a £12m bid from Manchester United for England left-back Leighton Baines. Personally, I think it'd be great if he moved on to a greater club. The lad doesn't have to prove himself in my opinion after seeing his performance last season.
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    (Original post by ledleyking123)
    Just can't understand there's been nothing official about a cm to god sake
    Loool, calm down bro. Patience

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    I think what he adds to overall team performance is enough to warrant his price tag.
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    Baines does give a lot though. Assist machine, corners, free kicks, penalties. Not so sure if he's worth a £15mil+ investment though. Was looking forward to Fabio having a run at left back.
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    Assists by lobbing balls into the box something we are moving away from. We have good free kick delivery direct in RVP or Rooney, indirect in Young. Not worth £15m for a position that adds little value and we have covered. Look at how much City paid for Clichy, Arsenal for Monreal, Barca for Alba. He massively over priced. He's by United standards an average £28 year old. If we need a left back, get a good youngster and wait for Evra to fade.
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    (Original post by doggyfizzel)
    Assists by lobbing balls into the box something we are moving away from. We have good free kick delivery direct in RVP or Rooney, indirect in Young. Not worth £15m for a position that adds little value and we have covered. Look at how much City paid for Clichy, Arsenal for Monreal, Barca for Alba. He massively over priced. He's by United standards an average £28 year old. If we need a left back, get a good youngster and wait for Evra to fade.
    Lol, £28 year old? But yeah agree with all points, we do also have Fabio.

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    (Original post by doggyfizzel)
    Assists by lobbing balls into the box something we are moving away from.
    Are we? According to what? Last year we crossed just as much as Everton did and that was with our awful wing play for the most part. Year before we crossed a lot more. Wing play, with fullbacks overlapping the wingers/wider players, is still a very key aspect of the way we play.
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    (Original post by Tommyjw)
    Are we? According to what? Last year we crossed just as much as Everton did and that was with our awful wing play for the most part. Year before we crossed a lot more. Wing play, with fullbacks overlapping the wingers/wider players, is still a very key aspect of the way we play.
    If we are buying a player like Kagawa that only makes sense if we are sacrificing wing play. If you wanted to direct play through the wings we wouldn't be buying/rumour to be buying a ball playing midfielder like Thiago. I didn't say we don't do it, I said we are moving away from it. You only have to look at the change to Valencia from 09 to now to see our changes, he's gone from being pivotal, hugging the touchline to playing in front 3 and coming inside.
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    (Original post by DH1')
    He gets found out against top wingers alot and looks so poor every time i see him for England.
    This is one of the key issues for me. He's decent at Everton but how much is he actually tested at Everton, and he's a key part of the team? Against top sides, like England against Brazil he looked pretty average and Hulk was giving him plenty of problems. £15m is a lot, £20m could buy all but the top left backs.
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    The thing about left back, as with right back, is that there aren't many good players in these positions in the entire football world. The main plus point Baines has is that he's one of the better, available ones, the second adjective being the key there. Frankly, if we're looking to buy a left back that's good right now, he's probably the best we could do. If we buy someone with potential, such as Shaw, Digne, De Sciglio etc, then we're going to be waiting for them to mature for 2-3 years, which is about the same amount of time we could potentially get some good years out of Baines. If we do that, then we can purchase one of these players when they've improved and Baines is on his way out, or perhaps Fabio or Buttner could come good (though I shan't be getting my hopes up). As was mentioned earlier, if we sell Evra, then we can minimise some of the "English hype" loss we'd have to pay for Baines.

    The only things I'm wary of are 1. Baines might not have 2-3 good years left, 2. even if he does, we could end up in the same position we are now, with an ageing LB and no one to take over, and 3. I wonder what sort of effect losing Evra, along with all of the staff, would have on the the dressing room.
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    (Original post by xDave-)
    The thing about left back, as with right back, is that there aren't many good players in these positions in the entire football world. The main plus point Baines has is that he's one of the better, available ones, the second adjective being the key there. Frankly, if we're looking to buy a left back that's good right now, he's probably the best we could do. If we buy someone with potential, such as Shaw, Digne, De Sciglio etc, then we're going to be waiting for them to mature for 2-3 years, which is about the same amount of time we could potentially get some good years out of Baines. If we do that, then we can purchase one of these players when they've improved and Baines is on his way out, or perhaps Fabio or Buttner could come good (though I shan't be getting my hopes up). As was mentioned earlier, if we sell Evra, then we can minimise some of the "English hype" loss we'd have to pay for Baines.
    There are no signs that Evra couldn't go on for 2 more years with maybe an underling being more prominent in the 2nd season. This potential transfer just isn't making much sense in my mind.
 
 
 
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